Can a white man love a black man?

I would say yes.



Can a black man be a white mans hero?

I would say yes.



If for nothing more than his ability in the ring. An ability that not only
made him the greatest but, the absolute best boxer I've ever seen in
the heavy weight division? Ali is that man. So I just want the white, black,
brown, red, whatever color a man might be. I want you all to know, that
the difference mankind shares in skin tone is so easily disappeared.

Do I see a black man, when I look at Muhammed Ali? No, I see Muhammed Ali.
Do I see a white man, when I look at Evel Knievel? No, I see Evel Knievel.
But the main point of this thread is that people like Muhammed Ali prove
that racism is easily forsaken. So when Ali passes, I will try to see him in
every black man I meet. And i'd like everyone to know how hard it's going
to be, at least for me, to see him pass.
It just won't be easy at all.

love is bigger than race, and blind to it.

a reply to: randyvs

So you are picking Ali because he was a great boxer? That's your definition of a hero? Someone that excels at their profession?


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Rather than Love I think you should have used the words respect and admire...

Can a human love a human? Therin lies the answer...

What the? Of course a white man can love a black man. A black man can love a white man. All races intermix, love knows no bounds. I'm not a fan of Muhammed Ali. I prefer Tyson

Cold, brutal, ferocious, comical. Tyson

a reply to: chrismarco

Are you a fighter? I mean do you know how to fight very well?
No picking or choosing to it really.

a reply to: randyvs

Of course. Why do you feel it's important to ask this question?

a reply to: randyvs

I'm about as white and nerdy as one can get. One of my heroes is Tupac Shakur... so yeah.

a reply to: Jamie1

Of course. Why do you feel it's important to ask this question?

I guess the times we've seen recently, coupled with the fact
that we are about to lose one of the greatest icons boxing
has ever had. I'd just like to see it mean something I guess.

Not only that but... In the late 80's, I played pro baseball in the Northwest League. My roommate at the Hotel was a black guy from South Central Los Angeles, in the off-season He claimed membership in one certain gang (I won't glorify said group by naming names...). We shared a 2 bedroom 'commuter' it was more of an apartment because it was equipped with a kitchen and fridge. On the road, up to 10 days at a time, I shared a room with another black guy who was from the Watts section of Los Angeles who claimed membership of the opposing gang of My "homie" (home games roommate)
During the season these guys would be closerthanclose, who knows when they get home???

In Everett Washington, My 'roadie' answered 17 Jeopardy™ questions in a row and then went and played classical music in the lobby for 45 minutes without sheet music...

In the early 80's when I played at Laney College in Oakland, many times I was the only white guy on the field. It was rather ironic because at that time I was a catcher so I'd be facing all other 8 guys. I also learned this chart-topper: "Whatcha gonna do when You get out of jail?? I'm gonna have some fun...."

Theres only one race.. the human race .. and humans being what they are let themselves be divided by non-issues .. til they realise ( if they eved do.. doubtful from the idiocy rampant in todays world.. ) there will be problems ..

a reply to: JimNasium

There you go!

While Ali was an exceptional boxer, the way he treated Joe Frazier was a disgrace.
The racist, derogatory language and insults etc - way over the line.
Not sure how he could be anyone's hero but hey.

a reply to: stargatetravels

Joe Frazier didn't seem to mind.

a reply to: randyvs

ALL* is One

a reply to: randyvs


It deeply affected him, scarred him in fact.
Not sure how you can say he didn't mind.
Ali used racial taunts against several opponents and accused their supporters of being KKK members but the way he treated Frazier and many more times through his career was way, way over the line.
It was cruel and despicable.
A truly class act in the ring but classless out of it.
I'm sure time and age made him reflect and he did apologize but the whole sorry mess was sad.

Joe dead now.. Ali suffering greatly.

At first the title of the thread Can a white man love a black man?[/b ] had me PAUSE! for sec lol,then went on to Ali, well the ans to that is yeah, anyone who served shoulder to shoulder stand watches together and shared hardships usually come away with unbreakable ties that last a life time,I think most people left to their own devises are generally decent it is politics and circumstances ie "resources" that gets in the way.

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a reply to: stargatetravels




ok now I remember that and you are right. But one thing Joe
could never deny is that without Ali, he would never have
made the money he did.

I'm not that type of guy. Love is not the same in my book as friendship. Love your brother doesn't sound right to me. Loving your neighbors wife can get you into trouble.

originally posted by: stargatetravels
While Ali was an exceptional boxer, the way he treated Joe Frazier was a disgrace.
The racist, derogatory language and insults etc - way over the line.
Not sure how he could be anyone's hero but hey.

Have to look at the context of the time, blk folks were being trampled on by states and individuals who refused to change their racist civil war mindset,a time when it was acceptable to call a grown black man a boy,burning of churches beatings killings, turned away from restaurants despite bringing home Olympic gold , the question should really be is it possible for black folks to love white folks, his using racist, derogatory language and insults was a way of getting White folks attention,Dr King was very even tone in language Malcolm X was not,but they both wanted the same thing,the sense I get was that the vast majority of Black folks before that era were viewed as hat in hand types begging for acceptance or permission head bowed and eyes averted,those two IMO helped to restore a sense of unapologetic Black manhood in the US.
So yes hero he is.