Hazmat team responds to Texas soldier, who fought ebola in Africa, found dead in yard

originally posted by: Tardacus
They obviously know something that they aren`t telling us,why else would they send a hazmat unit?

if you see someone lying in their yard you don`t automatically assume they are dead or that they died from something that requires hazmat. people would usually call an ambulance,even if the person died from Ebola the EMT`s won`t know that so they wouldn`t call hazmat.

Unless he was bleeding out. Telltale symptoms (maybe).

All speculation at this point. Something to note is that the responders are not in hazmat suits—just wearing gowns & gloves, which is likely to mean they do not believe that it is ebola, but taking precaution just in case. I had read in the local news article that ZeroHedge snipped that the reason for the soldiers leave was not medical related. Of course this story will likely change ten times in the next 24 hours. Being that he had to report his status twice a day, I find it odd that even if it wasn’t ebola that he would have died like that without having reported illness. If it has been any illness at all, you would think he would have reported it especially one that could have potentially led to his death (i.e. malaria). All very strange…

Can anyone tell if his death proceeded this article: Inside the US Army's Ebola Lab in Liberia
Written by Brian Castner on January 13, 2015 // 09:45 AM EST

http:// motherboard.vice.com/read/tappita-ebola-lab

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

That article says: He has two enlisted technicians working for him at the lab in Tappita, Staff Sergeant Joshua Boggess from Hometown, West Virginia (can’t make that up), and Specialist Kayoed Ilesanmi, from Lagos, Nigeria. Ilesanmi is 28 years old, and has a master’s degree in health and wellness.

But it does not mention his passing.

a reply to: Jaxsmash

Apparently no outward signs of suicide or that he was a victim of violence

www.mysanantonio.com...

originally posted by: kosmicjack
I'm honestly surprised this has made the news, given the complete lockdown on reporting about Ebola since the Administration appointed an Ebola czar. I really hope the timing of his death is just a coincidence. My condolences to his family.

This * 1000

as other have pointed out best to ascertain cause of death , as we have had a lot of people come down with a sniffle, or something completely unrelated that have also worked in area of great risk ..

But i agree with the new czar crackdown on info i am surprised this is posted anywhere at all , i guess we await developments.

Q

I wonder who called it in and how "they" would know about his quarantine. If a rando called 911 about a dead guy on a lawn, how would they know to tell EMS to wear suits? I get that his COC would know, but did they ID him and see his name in a data base? Did he call 911 himself and self ID? Lets hope the young man didn't harm himself, and that he didn't have Ebola.

a reply to: Tardacus

a reply to: ketsuko

It reminded of all the arguments in here over why it was so important for people who might have been exposed to simply stay home for 21 days. Then, you don't have the headache of tracking them should they actually get ill.

Who provides for their well being during the 21 days? I wonder how many people live from pay to pay check. Are companies responsible for paying quarantined employees for 21 days of absence? If you are sick and you go to the hospital you have insurance to cover you. If you are quarantined in your home that isn't the case.

A cancer victim may receive support from their employer. An expecting Mother or Father might receive leave for 6 weeks. I'm guessing nobody wants anything to do with an ebola victim which makes quarantining that much more untenable.

ETA: On topic. I wonder what "on lockdown" means. I'm guessing somebody in the chain has reason to suspect Ebola. Or maybe they are just being cautious.

a reply to: compressedFusion

You did notice that in the OP this person is described as a soldier. This would mean he knows where his next paycheck is coming from and, regardless of what he is doing, he is "at work" 24/7 as part of his duty. I would also presume that his reporting requirements while under quarantine are dictated by his military supervisors and he would be checked on immediately if he missed any of those requirements.

At this point I would say that all any of us can do is wait for "the rest of the story". This seems to be a very sad situation. Condolences to him and his family.

Was the deceased bleeding from his orifices?

If yes, maybe Ebola
If no, probably not Ebola

a reply to: SunnyRunner360

There were people during the outbreaks of plague that could get up in the morning apparently healthy and keel over dead in a few hours or so.

Sometimes, a disease can overtake you that suddenly depending on its route of infection.

a reply to: compressedFusion

The various aide orgs they went for did. The hospital they worked for did in the case of the two nurses. CBS did in the case of the medical correspondent and her crew.

That was one of the things we went over. The people who refused to self quarantine were all being provided for, but had they gone out sick and exposed others, they might not have been so lucky.

originally posted by: ketsuko

originally posted by: Bilk22
Maybe he saw something over there he shouldn't have

Or he saw things in a plague zone that just broke him. Imagine what they might have seen. It wouldn't be like a war zone.

Yeah that must be it.

a reply to: EssexD

Yes I'm aware that the post was about a solider. My reply was off-topic for the most part and applies to the general concept of quarantine. I tried to make my reply more relevant to this thread with my edit.

a reply to: ketsuko

My concern is about the general viability of quarantine. If it were to ever grow beyond the examples you cited my points seem relevant. I don't think we are well equipped to handle this and protocol established through fear might cause larger issues down the road.

a reply to: Bilk22

I didn't say it MUST be only that it might be. Rampant suffering from death and disease is different in some ways than the violence of war.

Both are going to expose you to lots of death and suffering yes, but it's in different ways.

a reply to: SkepticOverlord

a frind of mine in army said that soldiers brought back were quarinteened then after they cwere released the builkings they were quartered in were leveled and hauled off

It looks like we will never know for sure unless the truth happens to corraspond with some need that can be gained by telling the truth.

If it is admitted that it was ebola then some will say that ebola kills 100% of black males that have ebola in the u.s.

Unless they have a need for us to panic then i doubt we will hear the truth.

At the same time i trust no one so i am bias in that way.

originally posted by: proteus33
a reply to: SkepticOverlord

a frind of mine in army said that soldiers brought back were quarinteened then after they cwere released the builkings they were quartered in were leveled and hauled off

Were the buildings leveled and hauled off because they were portable buildings that could be used again elsewhere? Or leveled as in destroyed? Did you get an idea of which one it was?

originally posted by: Tardacus
They obviously know something that they aren`t telling us,why else would they send a hazmat unit?

if you see someone lying in their yard you don`t automatically assume they are dead or that they died from something that requires hazmat. people would usually call an ambulance,even if the person died from Ebola the EMT`s won`t know that so they wouldn`t call hazmat.

If you've seen pictures of people who died from ebola, it should be obvious from a decent distance, unless severe trauma of some kind is expected. Ebola victims have a hard time keeping blood on the inside.

Sorry, don't have a lot of input..... I just had to read about the soldier sent to "fight Ebola".

When you say it out loud, it just sounds funny.