ASN: Anonymous Take down Incest/Pedo site 'Family4Love'. More Attacks Planned

a reply to: Psykotik

You are border-line 'trolling' sir, to which I shall grant you one last reply:

But sexual encounters of anyone, any age, who is post pubescent and sexually mature (biologically), who are you to say what is wrong or right?

"Any age, post pubescent" you say? You have either not read/understood the topic, allowing you to flail around ignorantly with off topic hyperbole or.... . I have no kind or patient words for your comments, other than to say we are NOT discussing freedom of expression here, where that 'expression' infringes upon those who do not have the choice to say no.

I am staying calm with you, I suggest you do the same sir, and stay on topic.

ASN

Im expressing a view point. Deal with it. Thats what forums are for.
Nice thinly veiled threat, too... And how am I not staying calm?
Sorry to burst your bubble, but not everyone bows and grovels before ASN, like its some savior of the planet.
Maybe once some real arrests are made, sure.
a reply to: AnonSocialNetwork

This is a step in the right direction.

It seem like there is an agenda to labels those who agree with Anon and internet anonymity tools like TOR as pedophiles and such.

Hopefully this will help the average person realize that the Anonymous movement is something good for humanity and not what the MSM tries to portray the movement.

a reply to: Psykotik

With respect ... I understand the point you are making ...
Even the USA and UK have differing ages of consent ... And indeed some young people come to sexual maturity at differing ages

But The opening post is Anon announcing it's recent actions against known Pedo sites ... acting where governments and corporations fail or turn a blind eye.
Of course some of the establishment itself has much to hide and the higher you go the more protected they are.

I would be really impressed if Anon could bring to public attention / expose such elite activity ... a tall and dangerous order indeed ...

Thank you, and fair enough. I agree, actually.

a reply to: artistpoet

a reply to: Psykotik

Im expressing a view point. Deal with it. Thats what forums are for. Nice thinly veiled threat, too... And how am I not staying calm?

Oh i don't know, maybe its the tone with which you write? Or maybe that 'rat-in-a-cage' like avatar is rather indicative of your bad tempered disposition? I won't be the only one that has picked up on it, trust me.

Opinions are fine, but as it sounds like you are defending the actions of less savory individuals, could you perhaps explain yourself better? Because honestly, no body here has any idea what you are talking about?

Thank you

ASN

a reply to: Psykotik

Right glad that's sorted. Can we now retire this 'back and forth'? Anonymous are not trying to be 'saviors' as you call it, but they ARE doing something, which is more than most.

originally posted by: Psykotik

Sorry to burst your bubble, but not everyone bows and grovels before ASN, like its some savior of the planet.
Maybe once some real arrests are made, sure.

No one that I am aware of bows and grovels before ASN.

It would be great if Anon could tip off the FEDs and actual arrests of real monsters can be made.

I do think the US police do not investigate tips on pedophiles like they do say tips on a possible drug dealer because there is no money to be made on busting pedophiles.

Philisophical discussions about the abstract nature of human morals in NOT what we should be having here. Whether its 'wrong' to do what is being discussed is kind of a moot. There are any number of other reasons demonstrating why pedophilia is not something that should ever be nurtured.

"Morally wrong" is just the tip of the iceberg when it come to things like this.

I am borderline puking and disgusted after reading this. why is it members of these websites are not in public ? Why can't anon go "oops" and release them in public

a reply to: maddy21

Unfortunately I am not allowed to discuss details of action such as that. But I will say this.

It is not as easy as that, most of these 'members' post by proxy, their names are not their real names, and any other obtainable details are likely to be just as false. In the past it has been done, that they have found someones details and informed their friends/family of their actions, most of these actions are usually executed by way of 'Honey Trapping' a would-be predator, which takes time.
And where they have been stupid enough to not hide their true IPs, Anonymous have indeed handed over their findings, (weather or not this info was ever acted upon by the authorities is another matter)

Hacker group Anonymous publishes internet addresses of 190 paedophiles in hi-tech 'sting'

The renegade hacking collective - which has been criticised by law enforcement agencies in the US and the UK - revealed the information after 'tracking' the paedophiles, who are all said to be regular posters on internet child porn forums.

The information was posted as part of Anonymous's self-styled 'Operation Darknet' - a campaign against child porn traded via anonymised sites.

Via a posting, the hacker collective said, 'In the last three weeks of Operation Darknet we gained much support from the world.'

I understand your frustration though, lets just say they're 'working on it'. And the outcome will be posted via this account and other outlets.

ASN

originally posted by: Psykotik

originally posted by: AnonSocialNetwork
a reply to: Psykotik

I dont support rape or pedophilia, who would? But i also dont support big headed arrogant Westerners thinking they need to play Moral Police.

And are not the authorities your 'Moral Police'? isn't it morally wrong to rape and molest innocent children, and wouldn't you inform them if you knew of such a crime?

Your post will illicit a bad response, i suggest you reword your opinion.

ASN

Pedophilia and Rape? Yes.
But sexual encounters of anyone, any age, who is post pubescent and sexually mature (biologically), who are you to say what is wrong or right?
Seems mother nature's ancient order should trump any of man's morals.
Cuz theres a million different moral codes, so that means that nothing is morally absolute.
If people could actually discuss tough subjects, before resorting to witch-hunt tactics and hysteria, this could be a truly beneficial dialogue.

Ah, one of those "if there is grass on the field play ball" type of creeps.

People like this deserve to be executed, instead of neutering or beaten.

It'd be doing them a favor, which they don't deserve since they like to pick on those who are weaker then them.

I'd like to see the old God excuse, about forgiveness and what not, but then that would morally evil.

Like how it should be.

Lol, you're one of those who pass judgement over the internet, without knowing a damn thing.

I assume you know 'better' then Mother Nature?

a reply to: NavyDoc

a reply to: AnonSocialNetwork

When I worked at a server co-location years ago, if we even had a hint of children being exploited by a client's server/sites, we reported it to the proper authorities and then blocked, shutdown and removed the hard-drive for evidence.

Children are supposed to be protected not exploited by adults.

Children look to adults for guidance and care, to take advantage of that imo is the worse than murder.

Thanks for bringing this information to us here at ATS.

a reply to: AnonSocialNetwork

Thank-you! I appreciate you guys having the strength and know-how to take a stand and shut these horrific sites down.

originally posted by: James1982

originally posted by: Psykotik
a reply to: AnonSocialNetwork


Ill never ceased to be amazed at the crazed witch hunting of non-'traditional' (modern Judeo-Christian) sexualities.

Flame me all you want. So sick of seeing everyone's individual morals be the Bestest Morals Ever.

I dont support rape or pedophilia, who would?
But i also dont support big headed arrogant Westerners thinking they need to play Moral Police.

How, in any way, is your post relevant to this thread?

So you don't support rape or pedophilia, yet you are sick of people who are against it?

Please explain your position a bit better, because it makes absolutely no sense.

These people are rapists, flat out, and if you are implying "rapist" is some new form of sexuality that needs to be respected then I'm not really sure what to say...

No, what he's saying is that he is sick of other people playing moral police and deciding what is moral and immoral for other people. There are governments, courts and law organisations that have this job, they don't need busybodies in the general public deciding what morals everyone else should follow.

Seems pretty simple to me and pretty spot on.

Let the law makers and law enforcers do their work and stop interfering with other peoples choices that simply are not any of your business...

a reply to: BobaFettish


Ummm...NO...What he is saying..Mr Fetish...Is that his interpretation of morality is more loosely defined than would be normal...acceptable...or even...lawful...and what your defending is his loose interpretation of said...

Your also applying a non sequitur...by asking any of us to believe that those in law enforcement who protect the ones that practice deviancy...by...at the very least turning a blind eye due to authority or position...would ever seriously be up to the task of enforcement...

Your last sentence is most telling however and reveals here for the world to see...exactly what your...business...might entail and where your...choice...might lead...

I'm not so sure you really meant to expose yourself in such a way...I mean beyond what you might have a predilection for that is...

When your...business...involves harm to another...that becomes our business and if you can't see how such behavior could possibly...harm...then I find your position reprehensible and untenable...not to mention
indefensible...






YouSir

I apologize OP...however...I feel this to be very relevant to your discussion and again...I applaud ANONYMOUS for taking a stand and being a voice for those that had their choice, innocence and moral compass...stolen by a false application of "business" or "choice" by predatory behavior...

originally posted by: Psykotik
Lol, you're one of those who pass judgement over the internet, without knowing a damn thing.

I assume you know 'better' then Mother Nature?

a reply to: NavyDoc

I have question for you, what is the absolute minimum age for a person, do you think it's ok to have intimate relationship with that person ?

a reply to: BobaFettish

No, what he's saying is that he is sick of other people playing moral police and deciding what is moral and immoral for other people. There are governments, courts and law organisations that have this job, they don't need busybodies in the general public deciding what morals everyone else should follow.

Let the law makers and law enforcers do their work and stop interfering with other peoples choices that simply are not any of your business...

The choices made by these people usually result in the rape of children, or the proliferation of material related to child abuse, thus driving the demand for these images, resulting in a increase in the abuse of these children.

Please.. defend this notion. Please, defend the rights of these individuals, being denied their 'nature' and lust for seeing children being raped, or raping children themselves. Those poor, suppressed, victimized individuals.... not being able to feed their lust for raping your kids, your neighbors kids, your friends kids, their own kids.

Sit around and wait for law enforces to do their job? Family4Love has been operating for nearly 3yrs, in that time they made ONE arrest... in 3yrs.

Here we go, here is the poor victimized individual you are defending, this poor hard working American patriot, putting his life on the line to serve and protect his country, and putting his conscience aside to rape little children...

Family4Love flitted into the news last year (2013), when Stephen Lewis, a marine at Camp Pendleton in Southern California, used the site to seek out sex with a father and his children. But the family’s profile was a set-up by Homeland Security and Lewis was arrested. He reportedly admitted to having sex with minors and owning child pornography on his phone. (Calls to the Department of Homeland Security in San Diego to check up on this case were not returned.)

These sites also act as networking stations, they are gateways for people to follow their 'freedom of expression' to go further, where 'expressions' become actions. These sites may SAY they do not permit images relating to child porn or allow discussions promoting pedophilia, but these users still talk about it in private chat, swap emails, share sites...REAL sites that they may not have otherwise found, and actually meet up, and have sex with the children of families that also use the site.

So when you sit back and defend the right to this expression, promoting some higher moralistic governance based on the premise that 'nature knows best'.... Just remember that guy above, raping someones child, and how people should just leave him alone.

You have no idea what you are saying, and you have no idea what your 'views' are promoting. I just hope that if ever the time comes, when you might have to do the right thing, and protect a child... you will do what is morally guided, by society AND by what is flippin' obvious... just as nature also intended.

ASN