Gun owners - Have you apologised for a spree killing recently?

originally posted by: crazyewok

Man Americans are so easy to bait

Then it has finally happened.
Americans have turned the corner.
Like a mad dog, they can no longer tell friend from foe.
We now enter the most dangerous period in the history of Earth.


Mike Grouchy

a reply to: felonius

Nef must've hit a nerve if this is the thread that drew you out

So, you do think gun-owners should apologize for the actions of their fellow gun-owners?

:-)

a reply to: mikegrouchy

It looks like the old adage from WW2 "when the Germans shoot, the British duck. When the British shoot, the Germans duck. When the Americans shoot EVERYBODY ducks!" works on the internet too

a reply to: neformore

The gun community doesn't rally to protest people that are criminals or mental.

Your OP is about as moronic as it gets.

Guess you will, in another thread, request the same of people that enjoy alcohol? Vehicles? Meds? Rope?

a reply to: neo96

How many gun owners go around beheading, and shooting journalists for making cartoons, and writing things not so nice about them.

'A good justification' eh.

Hardly.

So, Neo - do you think the average Muslim should apologize for terrorism?

a reply to: macman
No need to, because the point that's been made here would still be the same one. Would that you weren't too defensive to see it.

a reply to: Jamie1

Oh, come now Jamie1 - come and join the conversation

Do you think the Muslims should apologize for terrorism?

By the way Jamie1 - how many other Jamies are there?

:-)

a reply to: waynos

Good hell.

SO, what is the point then?

a reply to: macman

The point was that generalising and that failing to account for individual choices, looking for guilt by association where none exists, is moronic. It was put in an analogous way so that those most in need of that message, judging by many posts on here, might see the point of the message by recognising that the usual standpoints are reversed and the accusers are placed in the position of the accused in order to enlighten them.

But then over-estimating the literacy and comprehension of ones intended audience is a bitch.

Unlucky nef.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

How did this become a Muslims must apologize for terrorism thing?

I don't think so.

Being as shocked, upset and disgusted at the actions of terrorists as the rest of us is enough, and it isn't an apology as much as the normal human reaction to acts of brutality.

When they are silent and sit on their thumbs, it isn't the normal reaction folks expect.

a reply to: ketsuko

The thread isn't calling for that. It's a response to it, as seen in too many threads.

a reply to: ketsuko

Being as shocked, upset and disgusted at the actions of terrorists as the rest of us is enough, and it isn't an apology as much as the normal human reaction to acts of brutality.

When they are silent and sit on their thumbs, it isn't the normal reaction folks expect.

Have they been sitting silently?

Has the world not held the average Muslim responsible for the acts of a heinous and unconscionable few?

Read the OP ketsuko - with a more philosophical eye

Edit to add - it's been stated many times - but I want to amend this post to say: a terrorist in the name of Islam does not a Muslim make

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Spiramirabilis

How did this become a Muslims must apologize for terrorism thing?

I don't think so.

Being as shocked, upset and disgusted at the actions of terrorists as the rest of us is enough, and it isn't an apology as much as the normal human reaction to acts of brutality.

When they are silent and sit on their thumbs, it isn't the normal reaction folks expect.

It started out that way. OP thought he was being clever and part of an anti-gun agenda, it seems. Why pick on law abiding gun owners? He could have said why don't gays come out more against pedophiles or environmentalists apologize for ELF terrorists.

Obvious agenda is obvious.

a reply to: NavyDoc

He picked an easy target Doc

:-)

You gotta admit - it was an irresistible ideological honeypot - but none of that changes the point he was trying to make

If you choose to make this as an anti-gun thread instead of seeing it for what it really is, I'd say neformore has killed 2 birds with one stone

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: NavyDoc

He picked an easy target Doc

:-)

You gotta admit - it was an irresistible ideological honeypot - but none of that changes the point he was trying to make

If you choose to make this as an anti-gun thread instead of seeing it for what it really is, I'd say neformore has killed 2 birds with one stone

As a great Admiral once said

originally posted by: mikegrouchy

originally posted by: crazyewok

Man Americans are so easy to bait

Then it has finally happened.
Americans have turned the corner.
Like a mad dog, they can no longer tell friend from foe.
We now enter the most dangerous period in the history of Earth.

Mike Grouchy

No, you just don't recognize well played satire. Satire has existed forever, and it takes a smart thinking person to get it.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Actually, his point was pretty obvious from the beginning. Gun control was just the easy target to create the parallels he was trying to create. It's ashame that you want to make it into an anti-gun debate.

originally posted by: Spiramirabilis
a reply to: NavyDoc

He picked an easy target Doc

:-)

You gotta admit - it was an irresistible ideological honeypot - but none of that changes the point he was trying to make

If you choose to make this as an anti-gun thread instead of seeing it for what it really is, I'd say neformore has killed 2 birds with one stone

What it was is fairly obvious. The method chosen shows the underlying bias. It wasn't that clever.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: NavyDoc

Actually, his point was pretty obvious from the beginning. Gun control was just the easy target to create the parallels he was trying to create. It's ashame that you want to make it into an anti-gun debate.

I don't. Just that the object chosen was interesting and an insight into the mind making it.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

a terrorist in the name of Islam does not a Muslim make

Wouldn't it benefit Muslims to develop a new name for terrorists that just happen to use the same scripture that they do?
Maybe call them the "We read the Koran our way gang" or "The 6%ers".
Since they are extremists, maybe they could be called "The extremely peace-loving Religion's Emissaries"