Full video of Tamir Rice shooting released

And it doesn't look too good.

The police fire within seconds of bailing out of the car, and I would argue it doesn't make a lot of sense to drive as close as possible to someone that allegedly has a gun. We've all seen that part.

After Rice is shot, the cops just stand there talking.

That is until the sister tries to run to her brother, where she is thrown down 3 times, and then cuffed and put in the squad car (she's 14).

What really pisses me off is that it appears that none of the officers attempt to offer aid.

Here's the video, warning it contains the shooting.

WARNING!! GRAPHIC VIOLENCE!!!
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I think it's pretty obvious that you shouldn't be playing with a toy gun in public, but I really found the whole response a bit bizarre. At first I was skeptical, but watching the video it looks like a series of blunders.

I don`t believe they intended to get that close with the car, you can see the skid marks on the grass, the car slid a long way.melting snow, wet pavement, wet grass, fast moving car equals lots of sliding.
Whats with the black police car, I thought most police cars are white, that thing looks like a Darth vader mobile.

It looks like the cop that shot him fell down at the same time the kid fell, maybe it was an accident and the cop is too embarrassed to admit it?

No I had to delete that because words can't even begin to describe my feelings about this one.

Not without describing gruesome acts of violence.

a reply to: Tardacus

Good point about the road conditions. Still, if I was rolling up on someone that possibly had a gun I'd be a LOT farther back.

I like the black ones!

Was gonna share this myself...

Dirty Pig!


Then I assumed what the thread may turn out to be, a thought better of it.



Salutations to you OP... There is bravery within you!




There is no way, in that amount of time, he told Tamir to drop the gun 3 times as was put forward...

Also looks a lot like he shot him in the back...
Unless Tamir was running backwards... Sure that's probably it.

Dirty Pig!

a reply to: onequestion

Hard to watch man.

When I first read about it there was no video, and I was thinking the kid probably pointed the gun at cops as they were walking up or something.

Then I saw the first shorter video and thought it seemed highly questionable.

Then I saw this video and can't fathom why no help was offered to this child. Infuriating.

Just sad.

This is one time the policeman who did the shooting should be heavily prosecuted. And look how he was hiding or cowering in back of his car for a couple minutes there after he shot the kid. When I was a youngster we played with toy guns all the time, cowboys and Indians, cops and robbers, cap guns, those guns with suction cups on the end of a long stick, and not once did a policeman question myself or my friends. Somewhere along the line, the terrorists have won. But maybe this will be one time the officer who did the shooting will have to give up some of his own life and sit behind bars for a few years.

a reply to: Domo1

Where are the apologists now? How can someone defend this? Its utterly despicable and beyond reason. That cop WANTED to shoot the kid, it reads like he wanted to. Its beyond reason!

I dont think you can defend this. There is concrete video evidence and Rice did NOT raise the gun or act in a threatening manner towards the officers. They drove right in and shot him immediately. S&F but they may take this thread down because it shows the shooting...I guess its against T&c's or something.

Don't forget, the cop who murdered the kid was the one who quit another force before he was allegedly let go.....and the story went he was not fit for the job.
Seems to be the dude should not be allowed near firearms.

Appalling to let the kid bleed out like that....but maybe that is protocol? The report I heard was the ambulance came minutes later.
My husband said they were probably discussing to get their stories straight.

What they did to the you girl was disgusting. Very.

a reply to: DontTreadOnMe

Don't forget, the cop who murdered the kid was the one who quit another force before he was allegedly let go.....and the story went he was not fit for the job.

Oh that's just friggin' fantastic.

but maybe that is protocol?

In certain situations I would say yeah, it is. In this situation, I would say I doubt it.

a reply to: Domo1

When I saw this I was like WTF....

Worst part is, that's being overlooked, is even if he had a gun, even if it's real, is a f*$King Constitutional RIGHT to own a gun.

How can a cop shoot somebody in 2 seconds for something that a RIGHT protected by the Constitution? Seriosly screwed up. Makes me want to join the militia.

originally posted by: thesmokingman
I dont think you can defend this. There is concrete video evidence and Rice did NOT raise the gun or act in a threatening manner towards the officers.

Which hand does he have the toy gun in when he gets shot?

a reply to: Jamie1

Makes me want to join the militia.

Aaaaand......you are on a list.

a reply to: Domo1

This video was gut-wrenching to watch.

I am outraged that no one even tried to help this child and aghast his sister was handled with such willful contempt. What is this world coming to? Capital murder comes to mind. The officer responsible for this child's death should be prosecuted, found guilty and put in front of a firing squad.

originally posted by: Jamie1
a reply to: Domo1

When I saw this I was like WTF....

Worst part is, that's being overlooked, is even if he had a gun, even if it's real, is a f*$King Constitutional RIGHT to own a gun.

How can a cop shoot somebody in 2 seconds for something that a RIGHT protected by the Constitution? Seriosly screwed up. Makes me want to join the militia.

I agree, who cares if he had a M4 on his lap. Was he committing a crime? Was he threatening anyone?

I do not know what I would do if cops pulled up to my front yard and shot my son because he had an air soft pistol.

It's simply appalling that this sort of action from our law enforcement isn't met with the harshest penalties possible for such a crime. Of course that would require a grand jury to decide it's actually a crime first.

Ya what kind of training did they have to drive up so close to a guy that has a guy that forces the passenger to get out and be face to face with the person with said gun?!

I think the point of the conditions of the ground are moot since there is a perfectly fine ROAD where cars are designed to drive on that would have put them at further distance.

But the shooting was 'by the book' I am sure.

Can we get a damn rewrite on this book?

a reply to: Domo1

This was just a tragic accident all around

I don't know that anyone is really at fault. With that said, I do think the cop that shot him was a bit too quick on the trigger, but it is easy to Monday morning quarterback when it isn't your life on the line. Cops are not infallible. This isn't the first case of a child being killed with a toy gun and unfortunately, it also won't be the last.

originally posted by: Edumakated

This was just a tragic accident all around

I don't know that anyone is really at fault. With that said, I do think the cop that shot him was a bit too quick on the trigger, but it is easy to Monday morning quarterback when it isn't your life on the line. Cops are not infallible. This isn't the first case of a child being killed with a toy gun and unfortunately, it also won't be the last.

Accidents can bring criminal charges, at least from the civilian side of the fence they can.

Both officers are at fault in this case. The driver chose to approach a scene where the report is a person with a gun by pulling up alongside said person with gun. The passenger, failing to suggest an approach from a further (safer) distance, shot his firearm the moment his door opened, allowing no chance for compliance to any verbal commands from the person with gun.

It's easy to Monday morning quarterback this situation because everything about it is wrong. Nobody asks law enforcement to be infallible. We simply ask them to use sound judgement, logical assessment, and appropriate force when needed. We also ask that those who do not do those things are to be held accountable for their actions.