Black Protesters Storm NYC Restaurants – Target & Harass White People Eating Brunch

a reply to: macman

I thank God that I don't live in crapholes like Oakland and NYC, where this is happening.

I think you just touched on why people feel the need to engage in this type of protest. Apathy for issues that don't affect oneself which is fine for issues that don't arise because of systems and policies, not so much when they do.

a reply to: DancedWithWolves

Who says they were inventive???

Just people going around, disrupting other peoples lives, just to be assholes.

a reply to: j.r.c.b.

They were also screaming in some patrons faces & grabbing at them, from what I read.

Where did you read that - and can it be verified? That doesn't seem like it would be something peaceful (but inconvenient and annoying) protestors would do

It does seem like something somebody who wasn't there and thinks this is a problem might say

Please post your source

a reply to: j.r.c.b.

I'm sure Eric Garner would agree, in principle, although he is no longer alive to do so.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

It was in the article. Screaming in some patrons faces & grabbing at their arms & such. The original article the OP posted.....if you read the entire article, you would have read it. I've been here long enough to not have to "make stuff up.". Be serious.

originally posted by: Kali74
a reply to: macman

I thank God that I don't live in crapholes like Oakland and NYC, where this is happening.

I think you just touched on why people feel the need to engage in this type of protest. Apathy for issues that don't affect oneself which is fine for issues that don't arise because of systems and policies, not so much when they do.

Just because one person thinks something is important, does not give them the right to disrupt the lives of others to tell them about it, be they protesters or Jehovah's witnesses--the difference being, JW usually go away if you tell them "no thanks."

a reply to: Kali74

Yeah, there is no reason for these protests, except within their own communities.

Protesting this BS of white privilege, where "white people" are eating breakfast is about as clueless and moronic as it gets.

The backlash will not be where the protesters want it to be, it will be on the jerkoffs disrupting the daily lives of people that have nothing to do with their anger.

And...I can't wait to see where the business owners throw them out, have them trespassed and possibly arrested.

a reply to: NavyDoc

Injustice should be important to everyone.

originally posted by: LewsTherinThelamon
a reply to: Krazysh0t

Also, human slavery today is unlawful, and the buying and selling of human beings is--in the US at least--a black market.

200 years ago it was completely lawful to buy humans for slave labor.

Pretty big difference.

Check out this guy thinking slavery is unlawful in the United States.

The 13th Amendment doesn't abolish slavery, it simply restricts its use. This isn't even a conspiracy theory with a fringe definition. It's spelled out in plain English.

Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

There is an exception to the abolition of slavery.

en.wikipedia.org...

Guess which race has the highest percentage of incarcerations resulting in forced labor?

I'll give you a hint...

It's blacks.

So, if you were more likely to end up killed by a police officer AND be bound for slavery, perhaps your existence would be that of fear and resentment toward the majority, eh?

originally posted by: macman
a reply to: Kali74

Yeah, there is no reason for these protests, except within their own communities.

Protesting this BS of white privilege, where "white people" are eating breakfast is about as clueless and moronic as it gets.

The backlash will not be where the protesters want it to be, it will be on the jerkoffs disrupting the daily lives of people that have nothing to do with their anger.

And...I can't wait to see where the business owners throw them out, have them trespassed and possibly arrested.

Are you kidding? Sharpton would shart his shorts in glee if that happened. Imagine the PR: "Racist restaurant owners force blacks from premises, calls racist cops who perform arrests"

a reply to: NavyDoc

Also, IMHO, gone are the dignified protests of Dr. King and his friends and now we have the mob mentality and tactics of the Brownshirts.

If you read what they're actually saying you'll see it's very dignified - it just bothers people

Protest - even peaceful protest - is not the same thing as Christmas caroling - it's intended to make you think and make you uncomfortable

I can pretty much guarantee you that there are people who were at some of these black brunches that saw the beauty and power in a spoken word, artful presentation. It's emotionally charged - and to the point. There's a message in art - though it's not being presented as such in the many articles flooding the internet right now

You should read some of the comments on twitter - pro and con. It pretty clearly demonstrates why we are where we are in this country at the moment

More than 30 demonstrators staged events at restaurants such as Lallisse, Maialino and Pershing Square, Yahoo reported. The protesters, most dressed in black, read the names of African Americans killed by police punctuated with chants of “ashe,” a word from the Yoruba language of West Africa comparable to “amen.” Timed by participants, the ritual takes four-and-a-half minutes — since Michael Brown’s body was left on the street for four-and-a-half hours in Ferguson.

This isn't about winning sympathy or changing minds - the people involved know this isn't going to change any minds. It's an attempt to keep this situation in the spotlight

a reply to: macman

That's the business owners prerogative which I wouldn't question.

Privilege exists in many forms. When privilege exists in any kind of institutional way then all Americans have a problem not just the negatively affected. In this context racial tension will continue to exist until it is rectified, protest will continue until it is rectified, maybe even to the point where it pops your precious bubble.

Want to know how to deescalate? Acknowledge the problem.

a reply to: Krazysh0t

This thread is full of violations of the terms and conditions on ATS and reads more like a middle school Twitter feed and you know it. No, it is not worthy of ATS. The OP source was not objectively reported nor written but clearly "worked" to develop the response being sought.

Hook...line...sinker.

We are better than this knee jerk reaction...most days.

Peace

originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
a reply to: Krazysh0t

This thread is full of violations of the terms and conditions on ATS and reads more like a middle school Twitter feed and you know it. No, it is not worthy of ATS. The OP source was not objectively reported nor written but clearly "worked" to develop the response being sought.

Hook...line...sinker.

We are better than this knee jerk reaction...most days.

Peace

Even a poorly constructed thread designed to evoke a certain response can still give birth to some thoughtful discourse.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
Even a poorly constructed thread designed to evoke a certain response can still give birth to some thoughtful discourse.

I'm ready for the thoughtful discourse to start.

a reply to: j.r.c.b.

I read the article. One person tweeted that that had happened - I asked if it could be verified. Can it?

Is that all it takes is one tweet to convince you it actually happened?

Why no arrests?

Also - consider the source

originally posted by: DancedWithWolves
This thread is full of violations of the terms and conditions on ATS and reads more like a middle school Twitter feed and you know it.

Only one post removed in the whole thread so I think the mods feel it does not violate anything.

a reply to: macman

Yeah, there is no reason for these protests, except within their own communities.

:-)

And there you go

a reply to: ScientificRailgun

Sharpton the Race Hustler will run his run. SO what.

The people doing this are trespassing and need to be bounced.

It is up to the business owner to weigh which has more value.
Customers that want to eat/shop/so on in peace. Or some hack protesters that have no intent in spending money there and only wish to disrupt things for others.

a reply to: Spiramirabilis

For what it's worth I did read a different take on that very incident but I can't verify it or remember where I read it... but someone claiming to have been at the scene in the OP stated that the woman was moved to tears, which I can see as true if imagine myself being there.