Diving Down the Rabbit Hole Has Changed Me, I'm Starting to Worry

a reply to: jimmyx

. . . healthcare is supposed to cost you nothing?...get real.

WOW, what is it with some of you people putting words in my mouth?

Really, is that what I said? I wasn't talking about the cost, which is way overboard if you did ask me, but how they got it passed. Seriously, how could they claim to be dong the job they were entrusted with when they had to pass the darn thing to even read it? Maybe you're the one that needs to "get real".

If I had treated my responsibilities on the job like they are, I would never have held any job, ever.

Anyway, none of that mess is the topic of the thread, I suggest you retire back under that bridge you live under. You understand that you'll turn to stone when exposed to sunlight, don't you?

ETA: I wish I could give you a negative star, a black hole perhaps. I can just feel the love, not. Actually I'm seriously surprised you have made this comment, the last one you made here for me was very helpful, I still appreciate that one.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Amazing what a little community outreach will do for a person eh?

Glad you're feeling better Sir . Keep it up, you're good.

~Tenth

I would personally ignore that last comment that got to you about health care brother.

I watched your post from the OP and that made no sense but for some reason the past couple of days theres been a whole heap of negativity towards benifits and healthcare.

I'm not a crazy bty I just had to comment on the curveball of that comment and how much it did not fit in with your thread but did with a general nasty sentiment on ats in the past 2 days.

I was trying to ignore it but the one you just took put me over the edge and it's not coming from week old trolls either.

Rant over, be happy.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

a reply to: nonspecific

Apparently when I mentioned how the ACA was the possible turning point for me, it pressed his buttons. Still, he had some good advice before that comment. Seems strange to get bent after giving that genuinely decent comment first.

Here is what jimmyx said,

when a person reaches a point in life when they can no longer trust anyone or anything, that's when you cannot get out of the "rabbit hole"....they can act out in many ways, outward violence is the "act" that makes the news, but there can be a fearful paranoia that turns into a lasting harmful depression which can be publicly covered up. it's important for people to have trust, as well as the ability to let a lot of what you hear go in one ear and out the other. work on what directly affects you and your family, establish a cohesive bond of truth, and work outward from there.....my two cents.

Truly good advice, some of the best in this discussion IMO.

Appologies to the the both of you for my rant but that was kind of my point.

It just seemed to escalate really fast from one thing to another.

I am guessing it all works out well in the end.

Again peace.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

I was thinking about you last night, sometimes way to much negative energy and information overload,

peace.

a reply to: TorqueyThePig

true this

originally posted by: JimNasium
a reply to: ~Lucidity

Where "thought" is 'real' and the 'physical' is the "illusion"...

I gave you a star, but in all honesty time to take it deeper and realize that in EITHER of these situations the same bastards are running the show, how incredible it is for me to see that the INDIGOS themselves do not want to see this, they want to think they can beat it by jumping from one side to another, no, the ILLUSION is not the problem,

It is "solid" here there or anywhere else, and is becoming more so at an extremely dangerous rate, till nothing is left from its grasp.

a reply to: MichiganSwampBuck

Great thread, I have enjoyed reading this and your responses to it especially!

I will have a different take on it than most, I think your Moral Compass, is just gravitating towards realizing the rules and HOW THEY APPLY , are changing and may not apply to you anymore.

We need to know in every situation how to apply what we know, and where to draw the line.

I have been down this same road some years back, and I tell you it gets easier for me all the time to realize that my moral standards can be looked at in ways more say,, Corporately.

I think you are on the right track and I hope you continue to open your mind further, and erase the IDEAS of what morality are and which way to act upon, constantly become more solid and SINCERE.

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: kismetpair927

Still it seems I'm having a rational reaction, not an emotional one, that is the disturbing part.

If you honestly believe this:

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
a reply to: roadgravel

I think I'll only have 20 or so years left in my life time, but I don't think that this world does.

Then it's absolutely not a rational reaction. There is almost 0 reason for the world to end in less than 20 years.

Too much CT can cause that to people, to change their belief system up to the point they will start to see things which do not exist (stalkers, psychotronic weapons, "illuminati" ruling the world) or even triggering paranoia and schizophrenia.

The only rational approach is to consider every CT hypothetical until proven. Most CT fail to be proven, they remain nothing but wishful thinking and delusions from paranoids, yet many people take them for granted and true.


The world and societies are extremely complex, a vast web of different spheres, cultures, objective and sensibilities. Anyone seriously believing that some kind of secret elite is governing all this in secret, trying to put Americans into FEMA camps and things like that (why would a country even attack it's own workforce? It's the stupidest theory ever), is deluded. Sorry, it's not a rational thought by any mean.

There are many powerful people and organizations, and they each have their personal agenda, and they each use and abuse every system to become richer and more powerful at the expense of others...

Story of the world. There are very few people in this world who can honestly claim they are not selfish and care more about others than themselves. Powerful people are not different, they are as selfish and greedy as the normal individual.


Nothing new under the sun, and certainly not a secret cabal people here call "they".

a reply to: JUhrman

I see your point, it seems valid in my circumstance. I do question rationality as delusional, what is really real in the world of relativism?

The mysterious "they" I mentioned it's essentially all of "us". Many of us have played the part of "useful idiots" at one time, then paranoid CT believer, and now (like for me) overloaded burnout. There is no single "they" to point at really, it's all of us.

Thanks for the input. To quote "Monty Python and the Holy Grail" -

"Bring out your dead!"
"Wait, I'm not dead" "I can't take her if shes not dead"
"shut up, you'll be stone dead in a minute" "nope, can't take her. Rules is rules ya know"
"Wait, I'm feeling better now" *thwapt* "there ya go" "ah... very good" "Bring out your dead..."

originally posted by: MichiganSwampBuck
The mysterious "they" I mentioned it essentially all of "us". Many of us have played the part of "useful idiots" at one time, then paranoid CT believer, and now (like for me) overloaded burnout. There is no single "they" to point at really, it's all of us.

Well, for me the path was a bit different. It was idiot --> paranoid CT believer --> psychotic break --> recovery --> forced to admit that 99% of all conspiracy theories are BS after checking them critically.


I played my role in this game, when I was paranoid and psychotic, I shared my delusions with the world and some people believed me. It's like a virus. That's what ideas are, that's what memes are, that's what CT are: viral thoughts.

It doesn't mean it was relatively real. It was the result of a malfunctioning brain losing grasp of reality.

That's something that happens a lot when people spend to much time into the CT world, reading new-age stuff, prophecies, all that jazz. Everything becomes mixed and blurred, and nothing is certain anymore. It's then a breeding ground for fantasies, irrational fears and delusions.

Check these videos, the people posting them are typically the kind of people frequenting CT boards like here. Now tell me; can you seriously trust most of the speculations posted here knowing it's sometimes/often coming from people like this? No you can't. You have to assume it's always delusion unless cross checked. Otherwise you are just sharing a delusion.






If all you got from falling into the rabbit hole is just a burnout, let me tell you, you are quite lucky

A wise man once said:
If you turn off your computer all these conspiracies go away.
That should be your clue.


Get off line and get on with life.
You get one shot at life. Don't spend it with a mouse in your hand.

i think this just might be everyone's feelings with the world right about now, so many truths coming out at once. with that scary gut feeling of anxiety it gives, just making you want to reach out and make something happen lol

originally posted by: LongishLongo
so many truths coming out at once.

Like what?

Sorry but I've been into CT for almost 20 years and that's something everyone is thinking what all the time; "wow boy! All these things happening right now! The # is about to hit the fan soon!"

Except it's purely a subjective illusion. Like when you feel times goes faster as you get older (it's even funnier when people start posting about this here saying that "time is speeding up" lol. Time has no speed, speed depends on time).

You believe more things are happening when you are obsessively reading CT sites. It's logical. If you spend too much time watching the news the world looks bleak. When you spend time with people you love and doing things you like the world seems nice. Conspiracy theorists have really a hard time distinguishing their subjective feelings from the objective truths.


Nothing new under the sun. Same story as ever. Time to go outside and enjoy real life for a few minutes if you feel that "so many truths coming out at once" because it means you are slipping in the rabbit hole too.

Careful with CTS some of them are real and some are to spread fear like Peanut Butter and Jelly on the toast that is your mind.

a reply to: OneManMasquerade

Careful with CTS some of them are real and some are to spread fear like Peanut Butter and Jelly on the toast that is your mind.

The only people who are spreading conspiracy theories are those who's springs are wound too tight.
TPTB can't get their acts together enough to make their public plans work right.
They certainly can't cover up things for any significant length of time.
Do you really think someone like Senator Mark Pryor of AK is on sites like ATS spreading lies to further his supposed secret agenda?
Or do you think some secret branch of Iluminati is pounding away on a keyboard in an effort to steer oil contracts to his brothers company?

Conspiracies are like religion;
They survive on faith not facts.

You cant put too heavy of a burden on your shoulders. There are so many causes to fight for today it can be overwhelming. Get out in nature, it always helps me shed a lot of the anxiety associated with societies problems. With that being said, a psychedelic experience (particularly Psilocybin mushrooms) could really help you by becoming aware of the beauty of very simple things and could prove to be a much needed "soul bath".

the best revenge is to live a long healthy happy life