Israel used Gaza as testing ground for new weapons

“There is conclusive evidence that it (Israel) used the Gaza Strip as a test bed for its deadly weaponry,” said Mustafa Barghouti, the secretary-general of the Palestinian National Initiative Party.

He added that the regime fired around 21,000 tons of weapons, which is equivalent to two nuclear bombs, on Gaza during the 50-day war in July-August.

Over 2,140 Palestinians, mostly civilians, were killed in the Israeli war, while some 11,000 were injured Nearly 20 Palestinians have been killed by the Israeli Army in the West Bank since June

www.presstv.ir...

What If Israel and the Palestinians return to the territorial boundaries that existed before Israel got hold of the West Bank, East Jerusalem and the Gaza Strip in the 1967 Middle East War and guarantee Palestinian sovereignty.

The Palestinian Authority has warned that if the joint effort to win support for a UN resolution comes to nothing, it would join the International Criminal Court to file suits against Israel.

a reply to: douglas5

*which is the equivalent of two nuclear bombs minus all the radioactive fallout and such

Where's the evidence?

I think Hamas would have to recognize Israel before Israel would be willing to recognize a Palestinian state.

Sorry I am misunderstanding your point in this thread
Is it because Israel used weapons they are testing them or is any country actively using weapons testing them.
Didnt the allied forces fighting the Taliban test their weapons in Afghanistan.

How many civilians died, how many Taliban, children died so the West could test a few bombs and bullets, drones and mines?

A war based on dubious aeroplane strikes on a few buildings in the US, a war on terrorism was declared and that lasted years and years.

originally posted by: douglas5
“There is conclusive evidence that it (Israel) used the Gaza Strip as a test bed for its deadly weaponry,”

So where is that "conclusive proof"? Why didn't he show it?

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: douglas5
“There is conclusive evidence that it (Israel) used the Gaza Strip as a test bed for its deadly weaponry,”

So where is that "conclusive proof"? Why didn't he show it?

Did you even bother to watch the video? Let me guess it's Presstv so it's a lie?

a reply to: buster2010

I watched the video and read the article. There's no proof of anything, only baseless accusations.

So Israel tested weapons in combat,,,, wow
Nobody has ever thought of doing that before.

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: douglas5
“There is conclusive evidence that it (Israel) used the Gaza Strip as a test bed for its deadly weaponry,”

So where is that "conclusive proof"? Why didn't he show it?

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Yes, but apparently you did not, otherwise you would know there was no "conclusive proof" shown at all!

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: buster2010

originally posted by: hellobruce

originally posted by: douglas5
“There is conclusive evidence that it (Israel) used the Gaza Strip as a test bed for its deadly weaponry,”

So where is that "conclusive proof"? Why didn't he show it?

Did you even bother to watch the video?

Yes, but apparently you did not, otherwise you would know there was no "conclusive proof" shown at all!

What does an explosion using these looks like?

This was the new weapon that Israel tested out on Gaza. So the man was right Israel did test out new weapons on Gaza.

a reply to: hellobruce

originally posted by: buster2010
What does an explosion using these looks like?

Just like a normal air burst shell, then the ground underneath it starts boiling with dust. Most countries have them.

This was the new weapon that Israel tested out on Gaza.

They are flechettes, nothing at all new about them....
www.doamuslims.org... and on that page you can see where they were used against terrorists in 2009....

also en.wikipedia.org...

originally posted by: douglas5
a reply to: hellobruce

Nothing there about Israel testing new weapons in Gaza in 2014, just a country showing that they are quite capable of defending themselves against terrorists and other countries - as they have proved many times in the past.

a reply to: hellobruce

lab rats.

Speaking to the German magazine Der Spiegel last month, Avner Benzaken, head of the Israeli army’s “technology and logistics” division — a unit “comprised largely of academics who also happen to be officers” — explained the benefits of this occupation.

“If I develop a product and want to test it in the field, I only have to go five or ten kilometers from my base and I can look and see what is happening with the equipment,” said Benzaken.



The Hermes 900 was among the drones used to bomb Gaza this summer. (Tal Inbar)

Less than one month after killing more than 2,100 Palestinians in Gaza, including more than 500 children, Israel is hosting its annual drone conference.

Organized in partnership with the US embassy in Tel Aviv, “Israel Unmanned Systems 2014” offers Israeli military firms an opportunity to flaunt the performance of their products, many of which were tested on Palestinians in the besieged Gaza Strip this summer.

Palestine has long served as a laboratory for Israel’s ballooning “homeland security” industry to test and perfect weapons of domination and control, with disenfranchised and stateless Palestinians serving as their lab rats.



Easy access to a captive population to experiment on allows Israeli weapons manufacturers to market their products as “combat-proven,” a coveted label that gives Israel a competitive edge in the international arms trade. Israel’s suppression technology is then exported to regimes that are similarly invested in subjugating the poor and marginalized.

This dystopian arrangement has paved the way for Israel, a country the size of New Jersey, to rank among the globe’s top five largest arms exporters and to become the world’s number one exporter of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), or drones.
“Combat-proven”
electronicintifada.net...

a reply to: douglas5

Before there even was an Israel there was a two State solution.

Israel recognized it. The Palestinian people refused to. They started a war to prevent any nation of Israel from ever existing, led by a Nazi war criminal.

They lost, and are the ONLY NATION involved with warring against Israel that has to this day refused peace.

Those are the facts. Palestinians have never been after peace, from day 0. When that changes, we will see what happens. You can't make peace with a neighbor that is only interested in war.

ETA: They are not testing new weapons. They are developing new weapons and using them against enemies who attack them and have wanted them dead or gone for 100 years.

a reply to: douglas5

Why would Israel guarantee Palestinian sovereignty when Palestine and Hamas both have the destruction of Israel written right in their charters?

Any decision by the 'International Court' is 'Nullified' by Israel's nukes...

originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: douglas5

Why would Israel guarantee Palestinian sovereignty when Palestine and Hamas both have the destruction of Israel written right in their charters?

Funny how some people keep ignoring that fact.... and they both refuse to remove it from their Charters, as that is what they want.

a reply to: buster2010

ETA: Missed the post from HelloBruce documenting the early use of flechettes. Too late I was, NVM...

originally posted by: buster2010
This was the new weapon that Israel tested out on Gaza. So the man was right Israel did test out new weapons on Gaza.

How is that a new weapon? Explosives with materials in them have been around forever. There is no proof at all to link this to Israel that I can see. Either way I see no new weapon being used.

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04
a reply to: douglas5

Before there even was an Israel there was a two State solution.

Israel recognized it. The Palestinian people refused to. They started a war to prevent any nation of Israel from ever existing, led by a Nazi war criminal.

They lost, and are the ONLY NATION involved with warring against Israel that has to this day refused peace.

Those are the facts. Palestinians have never been after peace, from day 0. When that changes, we will see what happens. You can't make peace with a neighbor that is only interested in war.

ETA: They are not testing new weapons. They are developing new weapons and using them against enemies who attack them and have wanted them dead or gone for 100 years.

Israel launched a series of preemptive airstrikes against Egyptian airfields on June 5 Israelis launched a ground offensive into the Gaza strip Conquest of the Sinai was completed on June 8 when Israeli forces reached the peninsula's western coast.

en.wikipedia.org...

They are not testing new weapons. They are developing new weapons and using them against enemies

same thing

No mention of the terrorist storing weapons and ammo in schools? command bunker under a hospital? civilians being ordered to go to the top of buildings the Israelis had informed the owners were going to be destroyed?
Perhaps I'm reading the wrong news blogs?
Plus a lot of the cement Israel allowed into the Gaza strip was diverted into terrorist tunnels used to mount attacks on Israel?