Looks like Putin was right that CIA and USA controls the internet, NK proved it.

Putin said a while ago that Internet is basically like a CIA project.

No doubt he meant the abilities to Spy and control the internet hubs worldwide.

When North Korea was wiped from the map of the internet, made into a black hole. Looks like Putin was proved right.

USA has the power to shut down internet for pretty much any country they want. US can even shut down own internet if they wanted to.

Although true that they could they wouldn't throw away such a great tool .Reading a piece last week ,it seems that the other block Russia and China may come up with a second option as far as a /the web goes .Should be interesting to see what they got . a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

"The way the internet is designed is very much as a decentralised system.

"At the moment, because countries connect to each other in lots of different ways, there is no one off switch, there is no central place where you can turn it off.

"In order to be able to turn the whole thing off or really block, suppress one particular idea then the countries and governments would have to get together and agree and co-ordinate and turn it from a decentralised system to being a centralised system.

"And if that does happen it is really important that everybody fights against that sort of direction."

The words of Internet inventor Tim Berners Lee...

a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

The internet grew out of a DARPA project, so in that respect the statement contains some truth. As for the DPRK going dark, it had consciously chosen to have minimal connection to the rest of the world; only Party officials and certain military and academic institutions had connections to the World Wide Web. Unplugging them was child's play.

a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

Ah no.

That's actually, physically impossible.

If you know how the internet works, and not the "series of tubes" answer, but the actual, physical hardware required, then you'd know that no single entity can 'control' the internet.

Just go take a look at this:

Norse

Norse tracks just a fraction of dark nets, that are not connected to your standard internet ISP's or can be found without the use of internet tools such as TOR or other proxy services.

The internet is not controlled by anybody, and that's what scares the hell out of them.

~Tenth

a reply to: tothetenthpower

How wonderful that so many of you smart guys showed up to tell me how it can not be done.

And yet NK was turned into Internet Black Hole.

If I wasn't lazy, I would copy paste definition of "Logic"

a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

And yet NK was turned into Internet Black Hole.

Says who?


How do you know for a fact that it was internal maintenance.

originally posted by: FutureWithoutFuture4
a reply to: tothetenthpower

How wonderful that so many of you smart guys showed up to tell me how it can not be done.

And yet NK was turned into Internet Black Hole.

If I wasn't lazy, I would copy paste definition of "Logic"

You're kidding right?

Do you have any actual knowledge of computer systems and how they work? Any knowledge of data trafficking standards?

Some of us *smart guys* are actually computer engineers and the like, so perhaps, you should do some research, before making claims.

It's not actually that hard to remove a country from the internet, when they receive the entirety of it through a single back bone that runs through China. Whereas most other countries have access from multiple lines, making it harder to effect those networks as a whole.

~Tenth

Putin's just looking for excuses to further censor the internet in Russia. China has perfected the art of internet control through their censorship, proving that control of the internet exists where the infrastructure exists.

Regards

a reply to: paraphi

Most kids in china bypass the censors ..

GOOD. Better US than someone else.

That film that was blamed for what occurred in Ben Ghazi was blocked in a number of countries.

Just like that…

quick search results

North Korea only has a few connections to the internet. I recall somewhere seeing four, linked through China. When compared to other countries, even other third world countries, that's a paltry few. I would imagine that it would be relatively easy to overload those links, which are surely outdated and poorly maintained.

North Korea was a black hole in cyber space, but because of the policies of their own government. It was like that before they were taken offline the other day.

a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

Yes, an EMP can shut down the internet at any moment.

originally posted by: intrptr
That film that was blamed for what occurred in Ben Ghazi was blocked in a number of countries.

Just like that…

quick search results

That's the thing, I worry more about providers being errant and blocking online material, and disappearing that which was there for years for their own purposes, or at the behest of some secret service or other...there's that many of them now the internet is like the secret service club. So Putin is not so much correct specifically, and hey! Putin has a country to run, or rather oversee, and has to do what he is told by his own invisible mafia government too. Just another pot and kettle job.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs
a reply to: FutureWithoutFuture4

And yet NK was turned into Internet Black Hole.

Says who?


How do you know for a fact that it was internal maintenance.

Wasn't***



We need longer edit times!!!

BitTorrent Inc Works on P2P Powered Browser

“How can we keep the Internet open? How can we keep access to the Internet neutral? How can we better ensure our private data is not misused by large companies? How can we help the Internet scale efficiently for content?”

Smart idea to help the fight against government control.

I think the problem is governments now realize the internet has given our generation and generations to come so much information we can now identify the system for what it is and no longer wish to take part in its lunacy. As such they are struggling to maintain the illusion and what power they have over us.

The weak link is that so many people run windows that was built using CIA/NSA money and we all know about the back doors in that OS plus they are using US made routers and switch gear.

Trust nothing made in the USA if you don't want the NSA spying on you or the CIA/FBI taking you down

a reply to: Heruactic

Yes, an EMP can shut down the internet at any moment.

How so? I dont know much in engineering but I think you would need multiple EMPS all over the place?

en.wikipedia.org...

Attacks against the root nameservers could, in theory, impact operation of the entire global Domain Name System, and thus all Internet services that use the global DNS, rather than just specific websites. However, in practice, the root nameserver infrastructure is highly resilient and distributed, using both the inherent features of DNS (result caching, retries, and multiple servers for the same zone with fallback if one or more fail), and, in recent years, a combination of anycast and load balancer techniques used to implement most of the thirteen nominal individual root servers as globally distributed clusters of servers in multiple data centers.

In particular, the caching and redundancy features of DNS mean that it would require a sustained outage of all the major root servers for many days before any serious problems were created for most Internet users, and even then there are still numerous ways in which ISPs could set their systems up during that period to mitigate even a total loss of all root servers for an extended period of time: for example by installing their own copies of the global DNS root zone data on nameservers within their network, and redirecting traffic to the root server IP addresses to those servers.