MGTOW: Men Going Their Own Way

You must stay positive, and work your butt off all the time to constantly remind them of why they chose you in the first place. Sometimes you have to step up, and grow and reinvent yourself for the better. Guard your emotions as much as possible, but still show love.

I don't know I'm only five years deep, but I've learned a lot and am still very happy to be on this road.

a reply to: GoShredAK
Again though, it always depends on the individual person.
Asserting attributes to the female gender based on ones own male experiences in a relationship with a woman is frankly ridiculous. Your experience is not everyones. I personally perceive a very thin line between negative gender generalisations and racism.

originally posted by: mikegrouchy
Ever since the State has set it self up as the parent, human men have become an accessory. A disposable product or commodity. I wouldn't be surprised if they start chemically stunting the brains of males shortly after birth, just to be kept around as drones. For labor and breeding.

Mike Grouchy

Sucks huh? I can't imagine women knowing how it felt to be an accessory...I mean it's not like it hasn't happened for centuries right?

oh....wait a minute...

originally posted by: ghostrager


Blaming ills on feminism is not in the slightest being ignorant. I'd encourage you to read my post on page 10 that describes the propaganda vs facts that feminist have pushed.

It's ignorant when it makes absolutely no sense at all. I'd encourage you to look up some history on the feminist movement and perhaps wonder what other factors that have happened in the modern age could have possibly lead to you not feeling like a man?

Men are being bombarded with nationwide ad campaigns in regards to topics like domestic violence campaigns that only show battered women and violent men. When you look at real facts, and not the propaganda, everything becomes a bit more clear that the statistics feminist organizations use to get laws enacted are skewed, bias, and flat out sexist. Feminism has turned real problems that all people face into gender issues.

So instead of coming on an Internet forum to vent your frustration why don't you take a leaf out if the big bad feminist movement and actually do something about it?? If you feel unrepresented in your society, be an adult and do something about it. Stop expecting people to take your hand and do it all for you, it's childish.

And watch the video that I placed at the end of the post on Erin Pizzey. She opened the first modern shelter in the world for battered women. If you listen to the whole video, she will tell you what feminism is about.

Yes I will give that video a watch but I've done my reading and I know what the purpose of feminism was. I'm not saying it has any great need of being around now but I definitely don't believe that men are being treated like second class citizens in the USA.

a reply to: KyoZero

Actually, as far back as Ancient Greece, women held considerable power. They generally held the family purse strings, directed the hiring/firing of servants, arranged marriages, and generally took care of business and politics in the absence of men during armed conflict.

The whole "women have been subjugated for ages" thing is more of a modern concept. While it's true that in many countries Women have few frights today, in the past it was actually a lot more equal than many think.

Also, even if what you posit were true, are we supposed now subjugate men because of their past mistakes? A truly evolved society would simply move toward true equality and close the chapter on an odd point in history, not suddenly dangle superiority in front of men and effectively go "nyah nyah nyah" the whole time.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: KyoZero

Actually, as far back as Ancient Greece, women held considerable power. They generally held the family purse strings, directed the hiring/firing of servants, arranged marriages, and generally took care of business and politics in the absence of men during armed conflict.

The whole "women have been subjugated for ages" thing is more of a modern concept. While it's true that in many countries Women have few frights today, in the past it was actually a lot more equal than many think.

Also, even if what you posit were true, are we supposed now subjugate men because of their past mistakes? A truly evolved society would simply move toward true equality and close the chapter on an odd point in history, not suddenly dangle superiority in front of men and effectively go "nyah nyah nyah" the whole time.

Would very much appreciate some evidence that women have been treated equally to men over the past few thousand years.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
For the hand that rocks the cradle
Is the hand that rules the world.

What's that going to mean when all nannies are robots? Skynet!

Men and women are simply becoming incompatible with one another in this society for various reasons stated in this thread. There is a genuine mis-trust going on by both sexes, and neither one is healthy. Personally, I love women, I like their companionship etc but in my experiences so far, they tend to have un-realistic expectations. I also don't crave companionship ALL the time, there has to be a day when you're allowed to just "do your own thing." Humans are picky creatures.

I was married once, and looking back on it now, I actually got lucky. I was a lot younger and dumber about relationships then and the truth is, neither of us were ready to be married. Neither side gave what it took to have a really long lasting relationship. "Love" is a task which must be shown every day via our actions toward each other, and not many people know how to do that well. She ultimately made the choice for the both of us and took the easy way out, cheated and left. I got lucky in the sense that we never had kids and she never got any $ from me. (Though I did have a child in a prior relationship)

One day there will be organic/robotic companions we can just buy at the store. (probably not in our lifetimes, though, dammit) Wouldn't that be great?! You get to pick all your favorite physical features and even choose what type of personality they have! The biggest benefit would be when you're just in the mood to be alone, you can switch off the companion, no hard feelings or bitching etc! They would be so life-like and good at sex as well, so to keep the human race going they could act as sperm/egg "catchers" and send them off to a lab once a month or so.

Ahh if only in a perfect world. Until then....

a reply to: Wookiep

In a perfect world we wouldn't need robot companions. The technology to create the perfect world already exists but it has nothing whatever to do with computers or robots.

originally posted by: Klassified

originally posted by: visitedbythem
I have the answer for you all. It was rendered from the most brilliant wise king that ever walked ther face of our planet.

Are You ready?

Here it is....
while I was still searching but not finding-- I found one upright man among a thousand, but not one upright woman among them all.

King Soloman

What else would you expect from a misogynist religion like Xtianity? Read the writings of the early church "fathers" like Tertullian and others. They hated the female gender. And these men are revered by many a xtain.

oddly enough, jesus said men and women were equal 2000 years ago. just, nobody listened (including the popes and later, the preachers) till it reached a crescendo that eventually developed into the current issues. secondly, the old testament, and solomon (see egyptian pharaoh siamun), are not christian books. christianity is mostly in the new testament. that the holy roman empire decided to add the old testament to the new, as if they were on the same page, confused the issue. they are not on the same page. the old testament is useful in tracking ancient history and provides some snippets of insight, but new testament christianity, it is not.

that's not to say that it didn't develop into a misogynist religion, thanks mostly to the idea that the old and new were equally valid teachings.

originally posted by: ScientificRailgun
a reply to: KyoZero

Actually, as far back as Ancient Greece, women held considerable power. They generally held the family purse strings, directed the hiring/firing of servants, arranged marriages, and generally took care of business and politics in the absence of men during armed conflict.

The whole "women have been subjugated for ages" thing is more of a modern concept. While it's true that in many countries Women have few frights today, in the past it was actually a lot more equal than many think.

Also, even if what you posit were true, are we supposed now subjugate men because of their past mistakes? A truly evolved society would simply move toward true equality and close the chapter on an odd point in history, not suddenly dangle superiority in front of men and effectively go "nyah nyah nyah" the whole time.

ancient greece was a pederastic society. they killed their female children at birth because they preferred males. the male physique was considered the ultimate form of beauty. you should read up on it. here's a quote

"In the Greece of 200 B.C., for example, the murder of female infants was so common that among 6,000 families living in Delphi no more than 1 percent had two daughters. Among 79 families, nearly as many had one child as two. Among all there were only 28 daughters to 118 sons. ... But classical Greece was not unusual. In eighty-four societies spanning the Renaissance to our time, "defective" children have been killed in one-third of them. In India, for example, because of Hindu beliefs and the rigid caste system, young girls were murdered as a matter of course. When demographic statistics were first collected in the nineteenth century, it was discovered that in "some villages, no girl babies were found at all; in a total of thirty others, there were 343 boys to 54 girls. ... [I]n Bombay, the number of girls alive in 1834 was 603."

here's a link
www.gendercide.org...

Aren't we all going our own way before we get 'diverted' ?

www.youtube.com...

originally posted by: undo


"In the Greece of 200 B.C., for example, the murder of female infants was so common that among 6,000 families living in Delphi no more than 1 percent had two daughters. Among 79 families, nearly as many had one child as two. Among all there were only 28 daughters to 118 sons.

Those are some pretty specific figures from 200 BC. Did they come from the famous Ancient Greek Census Bureau and were carved in stone, to survive the ages?

originally posted by: centhwevir1979

originally posted by: undo


"In the Greece of 200 B.C., for example, the murder of female infants was so common that among 6,000 families living in Delphi no more than 1 percent had two daughters. Among 79 families, nearly as many had one child as two. Among all there were only 28 daughters to 118 sons.

Those are some pretty specific figures from 200 BC. Did they come from the famous Ancient Greek Census Bureau and were carved in stone, to survive the ages?

most likely, since greece kept records.

pederasty in ancient greece
en.wikipedia.org...

female gendercide

a reply to: undo

oddly enough, jesus said men and women were equal 2000 years ago.

Oddly enough. I have studied the bible for decades(though not as deeply as you by any means), and have never seen that verse. Could you give me book, chapter, and verse? I will say, some of Jesus actions could have been construed as such, in that he allowed women to travel with him, and spoke to the Samaritan woman at the well. Both would have been much frowned upon in his time.

Paul, by the way, wasn't exactly feminist friendly. I won't call him a misogynist, but he wasn't far from it. Though I will give him credit for involving at least a few women in his ministry, and giving them due respect for their service to god. Peter's outlook wasn't much better. So while the new testament might not have been as bad as the old, it was still anti-equality for women.

originally posted by: ghostrager
a reply to: undo

I ran across this video nd thought you might like it. It touches on your bit about this being a socialist agenda;

sorry i missed your post and video. wow, had no idea it had gotten that bad in england.

a reply to: Klassified

i don't view paul as inerrant, but as a human being with his own history, which he brought into his teachings. for example, when he talked about women and men speaking in the church, he described why he didn't allow women to speak.

he said that eve was fooled, whereas adam was not and still did the deed. so the person who was tricked was not allowed to speak. the interesting part was that the trickery was obviously due to adam having more information than eve. had she been privy to the info, we have no idea if she would've succumbed or not - all we know is that eve, according to paul was innocent (since you can't blame a person who was deceived but rather the deceiver... i mean, logically, anyway), yet he was more than willing to assume her lack of knowledge was reason enough to keep her quiet in church. well doh, if you're worried her lack of knowledge will cause trouble in her teaching in church, just tell her the truth for flip sake. lol

it's stuff like that, that wasn't thought thru, and then just applied across the board, that caused problems after that.