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That's a whole thread in itself.

I have commented on threads about 'Free'Masons, maybe even on the thread mentioned, and I have to say, with good intention, not trying to stir things, it appears that there are a lot of people frequenting the site that absolutely refused to listen to any point other than their own ''its' a charitable org, that's all'', like their lives depended on it. Similarly for certain politics threads. They were very forceful in their denial.

I have had incidents that happened to me after talking about my truth of the 'free'masons, like hacked computer and other things.

That's the biggest conspiracy right there, that there are people being sent out scouting for things that doesn't tie with their 'party line'. The internet is great but as it stands, it needs greater control, simply because it allows organisations, nefarious or otherwise, too much sway of opinion.

I guess it isn't surprising that they targeted a conspiracy site where the truth matters.

Most of the time, it was topics highly critical of Obama. And as far as I can recall, in one case, it was a thread exposing something about Free Masons… I forget the specifics.

I'm not usually paranoid, but ATS does compete with the MSM services Google included.
They have an agenda, Google holds a candle that leaves a lot of alternative news sources deep in the shadows.

Their management might have had a talk about not subsidizing information that competes.

Google spin

So Adsense pissed on the ATS carpet ?

Why doesn't that surprise me.


But that's okay, because with global economics being what it is, some day someone is going to come along and piss on Google's carpet... and bring an end to their monopolized fiefdom.




And when that day happens, I say we make it an official annual day of celebration on ATS... I'll bring the Crown Royal and Swisher Sweets cigarillos.

a reply to: CranialSponge

that bastard wu
the rug really tied the room together

a reply to: CranialSponge

Dang! I hate it when I can't star a post!

a reply to: CranialSponge

By then we can bring Cuban cigars!

a reply to: CranialSponge

It seems to me that adsense on itself is infringing on the freedom of speech of the sites that they are trying to control.

I mean they are after websites that are media sites, what that tells you.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: CranialSponge

It seems to me that adsense on itself is infringing on the freedom of speech of the sites that they are trying to control.

I mean they are after websites that are media sites, what that tells you.

^^^^

Well that and somewhere in my posting history I think I referred to the CEO of Google as the most evil man alive....

This is a strange turn of events. I am having trouble trying to figure out what this all means. These latest DDOS attacks and the AdSense fallout are an odd coincidence.

It is good to see all the veteran members come out and support this site, even if it is just a post of encouragement. There is a good fight to be fought for the freedom of information and the sharing of ideas on the world wide web.

I'll see how much loose change I can scrape together and help out this great forum.

originally posted by: Grovit
why does google have to be involved in the ads?
can someone explain how it works?
i mean are they the only option?

They are not the only option, but unarguably, when it comes to internet traffic and ad revenue they are the MAJOR player and anything else comes way, way after Google.

Most webmasters, whether they rely on traffic from the search engines or on ad revenue almost ENTIRELY rely on Google (and this means also their rules, whether they make sense or not). MILLIONS can be made with Google's "help" (ie. Adsense), but Google can press the literal button from one day to the other and literally ruin your businesses when they boot you from AdSense or when they "penalize" your site, means it could vanish from the search results and you lose 90% of your traffic/revenue literally from one day to the other.

The problem as Skepticoverlord pointed out is that Google applies ridiculous rules to webmasters (the Bikini picture was an example)...but also things like images near ads or your site's layout can WELL trigger them to boot you off their program. For a business that relied on ad revenue this is nothing but a catastrophe. Worse when you appeal and fix your site..and they (Google) bring stupid arguments why they won't accept your appeal and re-include you into their program.

The worst is that Google themselves violates their OWN rules which it imposes on webmasters. A good example is how their ads on top of Google are visually looking like "normal" search results, in reality of course those are paid ads. At first glance they look like normal search results. Just ONE example. Every other webmaster would be immediately booted from their programs by employing such techniques to get more clicks.

Google has an almost unimaginable power and monopoly, there is a reason why the EU etc. filed suit. Google is the company which tells webmasters it must all be about quality of their sites...while themselves, for them it's all about MONEY.

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Well for what I read on some examples of what is considered nudity, under their TC, he may even have an office for the sole purpose of imposing fundamentalist rules. What a way to control content in the net, creating a monopoly absorbing and buying the competition and becoming indispensable, how long it took?, is a lot of money and resources involved.

This is more than just making money.

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These latest DDOS attacks and the AdSense fallout are an odd coincidence.
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They ARE a coincidence. It's as simple that almost EVERY weekend there is some script-kiddies DDoSing parts of the internet, no reason for a conspiracy here. But of course it becomes a major issue if a webmaster is already suffering from revenue loss (because they got booted from Adsense etc.)...and now must invest into measures to protect their site against DDoS which is added expenses.

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: CranialSponge

It seems to me that adsense on itself is infringing on the freedom of speech of the sites that they are trying to control.

I mean they are after websites that are media sites, what that tells you.

I've been toying with the same issues. Something about this really stinks. Like, the person with the biggest toys get to make all the rules. I don't like it either. Downright creepy.

So you lost your biggest ad provider and this has been going on for a while. Profits are declining. Then there is a DDos attack.

Why let a good crisis go to waste. Act like the attack cost you so much money that it jeopardizes the survival of the site.

Ask for donations.

I knew this would happen as soon as I read the tweet about it costing a lot of money, when ATS was still down.

a reply to: Nr439

You really have no idea what you are talking about. None. Zip. Kinda reminds me of:

"fools rush in where wise men fear to tread".

We've been trying to toss them money at least since I've joined in 2009. They have flat-out refused to ever even entertain it.

originally posted by: Grovit
the rug really tied the room together

All the dude wanted was his carpet back.

a reply to: Nr439

Freaking Martha.

Can we please have a list of sites that have had adds pulled?
some thing is going on.
is this a new ploy to stop sites like ATS and other sites that they dont control?
and can you have it so we can give $5 minimum.
then some of us will do it weekly!

oh and DONT go BACK to Google.
they use/abuse their power to Censer the web.
they even took the word Yiffy away?
how can they just take away a word?
make world disappear ?

originally posted by: CranialSponge
And when that day happens, I say we make it an official annual day of celebration on ATS... I'll bring the Crown Royal and Swisher Sweets cigarillos.

I'll bring the Gentleman Jack and some Partagas for a more refined palate

I'll be there right with you