Undercover Cops Outed and Pull Gun on Crowd

a reply to: RoScoLaz4

Agreed. When the protest is peaceful one must justify ones need to be on the opposing side. Therefore one must subvert said protest. Its been happening since protests were first a thing.

I suspect

The police pose a protesters, make trouble and this can be used to discredit the protest and bait others in doing something to get arrested. Really sad.

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat
They were probably hired by the media, they don't want to protests to stop, they helped build the foundation that started the misinformation that started the initial reaction. As far as the media mongrels are concerned, they probably hope there is a white cop that shoots a black person every day. Ill bet the news heads hated seeing all of the whites in the protests, Im sure they helped tone down the race cards.

originally posted by: smurfy

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
Anyone else hearing anything about this?

I just came across this in my FB feed and thought it worthy of bringing here, I want some answers.

Last night, Wednesday, December 10th, 2014, during the protests in Berkeley and Oakland two undercover officers in the crowd were outed for attempting to incite the protestors to engage in looting. From what I understand,once outed, the plain clothed officers brandished weapons, prompting a member of the protests to assault one of the undies by punching his face. What happened next was that these undies, having been outed, began making arrests. OPD is claiming the under cover officers were not OPD but another agency.

Info is a bit uncertain at this point. I'm on my phone so if anyone could help me get some images up I would appreciate it.
source

Time online has picked up on it,

time.com...

Gunman...sorry policeman in the crowd.

Thanks for posting that link and it leaves no doubts about whom is actually calling the shots now.
Regards, Iwinder

Wasn't it on infowars, that Jones and Staff Sergeant Biggs and Jakari Jackson talking about reporting on a box of Motive cocktails and how their was agent provocateur, at Ferguson a few months back?

Besides Biggs talking about how in his tour, how he still has nightmares of the torture screams of innocent people they were told to detain and were setting tracking beacon for traps and how they knew there intel was spot on usually, though the ones who were the bad guys they let go and tortured the ones who did not know what was going on and had not clue...?

Who's playing who?

a reply to: dojozen
What about the Brandon Darby pushing the motive cocktails and story, as I still wonder about the 1st guy that jumped in the river and how he claimed it was suicide and how that really went down and what happen.

Besides coaching the and provoking his targets into motive cocktail party and being an informant agent provocateur

"Informant", the documentry



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a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat

great way to use the public purse....and inciting violence to get an even longer purse string no doubt...what a screwed up world this is

a reply to: Realtruth

Umm...

What is going on here did you and sirhumperdink both edit your posts out for a reason or...

Wtf?

a reply to: Realtruth

muscle memory relates more to reactions
perhaps drawing and aiming his weapon in that way was a premeditated move? (which would make sense given the circumstances)

maybe he was intentionally trying to be intimidating

a reply to: CagliostroTheGreat
errr.......ehh, what's up doc
i did
because of T&C
certain members of this site deserve to be torn into like a thanksgiving turkey but the rules will not allow faor it (because "oh no what happens if they realize what an ass theyve been for the last 30+ years and decide to do the world a favor by offing themselves".... i see the other side of that coin as well... just saying sometimes its justified)

originally posted by: nullafides

originally posted by: CagliostroTheGreat
a reply to: NavyDoc

What reason would the protest have to lie?

They straight up busted these two, now apparently CHP officers trying to incite violence in their protest so they called them out and the undies got butthurt so they drew and started making arrests.

The only input that I have for this, and not necessarily PRO in any way, is that my run-ins (while under the influence of things now legal elsewhere) with the CHP were rather pleasant.

I hope things have not changed that much.



-NF

That's because usually highway patrol has real drugs to deal with and problems, not some innocent dude just going to gas station for munchies. I've never ran into a highway patrolman that takes MarryM seriously.

Having heard about this the following can be stated:

The problem is that in the past and current protests, people start getting violent and start causing problems. This is what is making such to become distasteful and the public to loose support for said protesters. Blocking businesses and the street, causing other problems for people makes most people who are not involved, irritated and start to side with the other side.

Protesting is legal, and it is acceptable, however, when protesters show up in masks, and aggitaters come into play, it is bad and that too causes more problems in the long run. And if the police are going to show up, wearing masks, then maybe it is time to take the masks off, for people to change tactics, and start protesting like they mean it.

When they are going to protest, say the police, then move up and down the sidewalks near the police station, circling said police station, use cameras and video equipment, but do not impede, make it where it is the numbers that show solidarity and be peaceful about it. One of the images, where it shows the officer with his gun drawn, if they can show video footage, before, including what all is going on, during and after, that will go along way and gain more support of the public.

Also the police are caught in a catch 22 situation. If they do nothing, and business get damaged, or to keep the crowds out of the street and someone gets ran over, or an ambulance impeded, then the police are at fault, if they try to direct, then they are wrong. But infiltrating the protesters, that is wrong as now it can lead to something far greater than what they are stating, that is the stopping of the freedom of speech.

a reply to: sdcigarpig

and this is what a cop looks like

i encourage you all to take take a lengthy review of this members post history

a reply to: sdcigarpig

Umm... yes, that's all great but I don't understand your point.

The UCs were outed by the protest for trying to get them to engage in violence and looting. What do you think about that?

You've basically said a whole lot of nothing here, and while I agree with some of the sentiments you have expressed, I fear I don't grasp the intention of your reply.

a reply to: sirhumperdink

Indeed.

I don't see how either his post history or his employment history are relative to the context of this thread.

Let us focus on that and not individual members, shall we?

I have to wonder how much of the trouble is being instigated by the police. The police are not supposed to be allowed to break laws but we see that has changed.

a reply to: roadgravel

Yeah.

It certainly raises eyebrows, or at least it should. Because, bet your bottom dollar, if it happened once it has happened before and it will happen again.

It makes one wonder how often they successfully subert protests to violence with no one being the wiser.

But that one cop bought eggs for that old lady, so I don't see what the problem is here...