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originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Krazysh0t
Scientific data? Bull!
I've worked in a drug rehab center and dealt with addicts, including pot.
The scientific data is completely trumped by the fact it was available in pill form long before the legalization agenda got any traction.
I prefer an environment drug free not spin from single issue self-indulging borderline addicts.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: jtma508
Ok. We're in the same ballpark, age wise.
Perhaps you haven't. I sure have. Included people who paid 30K to end their addiction to pot. Honest! No lie.
I will cede that street drugs are no where near as addictive as pain killers. Pain killers also being no where as addictive as psycho-tropics.
Let's toss in the doobies today are a lot more powerful than the Acapulco Gold days and I could get seriously FUBAR'd on that. Them mix it with booze....shudder at how far gone I was. LMAO.
I stand my ground on this. This society is better of drug free. Period.
Legalizing it, popularizing it will give us more problems than it solves. It'll be the big boys making the profit instead of cartels. Far tougher to get rid of in that scenario than it even is now.
Right now, people are being charged with child endangerment for NOT allowing the child to be proscribed with Ritalin . A category two amphetamine!
Envision the big pharma pumping out invented drugs.....
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Krazysh0t
No profit for big pharmas in Portugal. Now there a country that we can hold as an example for the rest of the world.. Yeah right.
Emmigration is always an option.....
originally posted by: Mandroid7
a reply to: crazyewok
Yeah, you got me there. It was the first thing to come to mind when thinking of an oppressive government.
What does that say about the US?
Now, do you have anything else to add to the discussion, or do you just read other posts looking for mistakes so you can feel superior?
I'd like to hear your side of the issue.
a reply to: crazyewok Of course not! I merely raise the point that the fact that people indulge despite being well aware of the consequences of their act speaks volumes about the very drug itself. I suspect education is the long term solution. Legalization isn't. JMO
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: crazyewok
Of course not! I merely raise the point that the fact that people indulge despite being well aware of the consequences of their act speaks volumes about the very drug itself.
I suspect education is the long term solution. Legalization isn't. JMO
originally posted by: neo96
LOL wow.
Hey everyone get your wallet, pull a 100,20, or whatever out of it.
Take a lighter, and set on fire.
Because that is what your doing with OUR money spending it on pot.
They waste enough cash already.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
It would please me mightily if there was no need for drug rehabs... First time users?? Where'd you get that idea? Addicts, dude no 'first time users'. The affects are incremental.
As far as, what the ingredients are in the pill form, I know not nor care not.
they only complaint I saw was the pill form was "too strong". Given the potential profit margin, there's not much that can't be extracted nor duplicated chemically speaking by the big boys. I doubt 'artificial' changed the effects one whit.
I'm fairly confident that the agenda was unrestrained stones , not any therapeutic value.
You would impose you mind-altered 'self' on the rest of us. So who is more guilty? Hmmm?
I'm fairly certain your agenda is not any personal medical issue either...is it? LOL.
originally posted by: jtma508
I started a thread on the subject earlier my thread but included a couple of other things they also wrapped into the spending bill. For example, they upped the cap on political donations from $32,400 to a whopping $324,000 and to make sure that new cap got maxed-out they repealed a provision tat prevented banks from using taxpayer-backed money to gamble on the derivatives market. A provision that was put in place after the '07-08 banking/financial collapse. So the politicians made sure they got what THEY wanted and basically said screw the voters. Time to roll out the guillotines people... it worked in France.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
Ok, why would anyone, ANYONE risk those consequences that you refer to?
No, I don't agree to any lifetime criminal record either. However, there is a shortage of jobs. Yes? If your an HR person responsible for hiring and you have six apps for one job, who are you going to take? It's not rocket science.
I have no doubt you just quit pot with zero problem, so did I. Booze as well, again no problem. So your saying alcoholism doesn't exist?? That people who, perhaps indulged far more than you, for far longer, with lesser abilities don't succumb to those impulses?
You talk about my narrow-mindedness? Bah.
How about the personal responsibility factor? One knows it's illegal, can cause all kinds of down the road problems, as you stated, and they still indulge? Tough tarpaper, Hardcasle, deal with it.
I was successful with my daughter, have my fingers cross for my grandchildren and care not one whit for your freedoms that increase the exposure to my family just to indulge in your 'freedom'.
I won't send you a ticket out of the country, you'd cash it in and be able to afford your doobies.....
originally posted by: Krazysh0t
“The fact is the Constitution gives Congress the ultimate oversight about what happens in the federal district,” Harris said.
originally posted by: nwtrucker
a reply to: Krazysh0t
I trust not your scientific data. Nor the agenda behind them, from big pharm, Monsanto et al.....
I do not support the criminalization of pot use.
I do not support the legalization of pot use.
As you say, having helped some get off drugs, why would I support easier use/popularization of that use and see an increase in every drug's use as a result? It doesn't make any sense.
Of course, there will never be a drug free environment. That somehow means that it can't be improved? Bull!
I'm old enough to see and know what is called the 'norm' now is a lie.
On this, I'm not budging one bit. Agree to disagree is my view on this...