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originally posted by: Masterjaden
a reply to: spiritualzombie
maybe you should try a search, when all the obama bs about closing down GTMO came out in 2008 and 2009 I said the same things on this forum.
Jaden
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
You're going to compare IRS emails or amnesty for illegal immigrants to torture of innocent people? You're going to compare that to war crimes and crimes against humanity?
The Bush administration lies to us to get us into a war and tortures innocent people, collecting piles of false confessions to prop up their lies to the American people-- and you want to compare that sh*t to GD emails?
seriously? This is the insanity of the Republican Party. They all need a psyche evaluation. Not fit to govern. Not fit to even think rationally.
Putting emails on par with the torture of innocent people. WTF? Wow, 911 really mind-F'd republicans on such an epic level.
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
You're going to compare IRS emails or amnesty for illegal immigrants to torture of innocent people? You're going to compare that to war crimes and crimes against humanity?
The Bush administration lies to us to get us into a war and tortures innocent people, collecting piles of false confessions to prop up their lies to the American people-- and you want to compare that sh*t to GD emails?
seriously? This is the insanity of the Republican Party. They all need a psyche evaluation. Not fit to govern. Not fit to even think rationally.
Putting emails on par with the torture of innocent people. WTF? Wow, 911 really mind-F'd republicans on such an epic level.
Exactly, it's like comparing a bitch slap to murder. Obama isn't perfect, and I despise him for Libya and Syria. BUT, the Democrats and Obama didn't invade an entire country on false pretenses, resulting in the deaths of 200,000 civilians, a war crime in itself. Obama didn't start a regime of torture, also a war crime.
Wake the F$ck up Republicans. You had a war criminal for president, and you are supporting huge war crimes. You know, mass murder? Mass torture?
originally posted by: Aazadan
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
What you imply is a pretty big failure of the US then. After all that torture, all that wiretapping, and years on the ground we were unable to find these weapons. Yet a group of unaffiliated resistance fighters got together and were able to obtain them easily?
Or did the US find them and then not remove them?
Either way you're not exactly making a compelling argument for your team here.
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
You really are behind the news.
Don't let me interrupt you Tokyo Rose.
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
You are behind in the news ... Bush was right. There were WMD's in Iraq. ISIS made a beeline straight to them when criminal in chief pulled out of Iraq.
Such pre-1991 chemical-weapons shells (often empty) were found by U.N. weapons inspectors just before the 2003 invasion of Iraq by the United States. The Bush administration, by contrast, staked its WMD claims on an active, on-going program that was restarted after the Kuwait conflict.
CIA White Paper, October 2002
Iraq largely has rebuilt missile and biological weapons facilities damaged during Operation Desert Fox and has expanded its chemical and biological infrastructure under the cover of civilian production
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Although Saddam probably does not yet have nuclear weapons or sufficient material to make any, he remains intent on acquiring them.
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Baghdad has begun renewed production of chemical warfare agents, probably including mustard, sarin, cyclosarin, and VX.
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Saddam probably has stocked a few hundred metric tons of CW agents.
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All key aspects—R&D, production, and weaponization—of Iraq’s offensive BW [Biological Weapons] program are active and most elements are larger and more advanced than they were before the Gulf war.
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Iraq has some lethal and incapacitating BW agents and is capable of quickly producing and weaponizing a variety of such agents, including anthrax, for delivery by bombs, missiles, aerial sprayers, and covert operatives, including potentially against the US Homeland.
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Baghdad has established a large-scale, redundant, and concealed BW agent production capability, which includes mobile facilities; these facilities can evade detection, are highly survivable, and can exceed the production rates Iraq had prior to the Gulf war.
originally posted by: GeisterFahrer
originally posted by: Quetzalcoatl14
originally posted by: spiritualzombie
a reply to: GeisterFahrer
You're going to compare IRS emails or amnesty for illegal immigrants to torture of innocent people? You're going to compare that to war crimes and crimes against humanity?
The Bush administration lies to us to get us into a war and tortures innocent people, collecting piles of false confessions to prop up their lies to the American people-- and you want to compare that sh*t to GD emails?
seriously? This is the insanity of the Republican Party. They all need a psyche evaluation. Not fit to govern. Not fit to even think rationally.
Putting emails on par with the torture of innocent people. WTF? Wow, 911 really mind-F'd republicans on such an epic level.
Exactly, it's like comparing a bitch slap to murder. Obama isn't perfect, and I despise him for Libya and Syria. BUT, the Democrats and Obama didn't invade an entire country on false pretenses, resulting in the deaths of 200,000 civilians, a war crime in itself. Obama didn't start a regime of torture, also a war crime.
Wake the F$ck up Republicans. You had a war criminal for president, and you are supporting huge war crimes. You know, mass murder? Mass torture?
You are behind in the news ... Bush was right. There were WMD's in Iraq. ISIS made a beeline straight to them when criminal in chief pulled out of Iraq.
Your glorious commander has been lame ducked. people see through him now ... so all you are left with is liberal impotent rage.