Cia Interrogation Report, Another Obama Political Move!

a reply to: thesaneone

How's about making sure we have the right people and arresting them? If they have committed a crime, the government should be confident in prosecuting. Torture is a guarantee there will be more terrorist attacks.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

The Phoenix Program.

en.wikipedia.org...

This crap didn't start with GW.

But hell that doesn't stop blaming him.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: thesaneone

If it was all about protecting the country 9/11 would of never happened, it is all about protecting profits. As for the Muslims, any scapegoat in a crisis will do.

You could be right about us being lack up to 9/11 but since then how many times has the U.S been attacked?
Maybe these interrogations do work.


Like I said its dirty work to protect our country.

Ok I read the link and it couldn't be connected to congress or the President at the time nor either political party...


It was a rogue agency agenda.



Does that justify Guantanamo in your eyes?


Seems like a deflection to take attention away from the actual topic being discussed imo.

a reply to: neo96

How could 9/11 have been Bush's fault?

He was only in office for 8 months.



I think the Clinton Democrat machine kept "Bin Laden" alive as collateral in case Al Gore lost the 2000 election.

These people *DO* plan ahead.

The real conspiracy is how long Clinton knew the 9/11 attacks were in the works.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

LOL 'rogue'.

Does that justify Guantanamo in your eyes?

Pretty much considering the other side is going around cutting peoples heads off.

And cutting children in half.

But 'Merika' is evil!!

Seems like a deflection to take attention away from the actual topic being discussed imo

Hardly a 'deflection' considering the US has been torturing people since before Vietnam began.

And then it moved to South and Central America for the US's longest war in our history.

The 'war on drugs'.

Call it what it is: Selective outrage that clearly IGNORES quite hell of a lot of American history.

Because this country lost the 'moral' high ground LONG before 2000.

a reply to: thesaneone

1. Protecting our country is dirty business... Every presidents responsibility.

These people were never in America and had never attacked America.

2. Muslim terrorists made this bed for themselves... No presidents fault.

Seeing how these people were never tried before being thrown into prison it was never proven they were terrorist or not.

3. Re-read number 1.

Reread my answer to number 2.

It isn't Bush's Fault or Clinton's Fault or Obama's Fault.

It is your fault. It is OUR fault.

We elect these people into office. They are our elected representatives ordering these things.

We The People allow torture.

a reply to: xuenchen

How could 9/11 have been Bush's fault? He was only in office for 8 months.

Would 9/11 had happened if he hadn't ignored the warnings?

I think the Clinton Democrat machine kept "Bin Laden" alive as collateral in case Al Gore lost the 2000 election.

Congress wouldn't give Clinton the ok to kill Bin Laden. So you support a President that can give orders to kill anyone they think is a threat?

The real conspiracy is how long Clinton knew the 9/11 attacks were in the works.

There is no conspiracy. If you really knew what you were talking about then you would know that they left ample warning for Bush about Bin Laden but Bush ignored everything he was told.

a reply to: buster2010

These people were never in America and had never attacked America.

Never attacked America ?

I see someone is clearly ignoring the embassy bombings, and the USS Cole

directorblue.blogspot.com...

On August 7, 1998, Al Qaeda bombs the U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Tanzania, killing 225 and wounding 4,000.

en.wikipedia.org...

Clinton's cruise missile attacks.

'Never' attacked anyone eh.

That was effing hilarious.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

1. Piss off the terrorist and the world at the response America has made to combat terrorism.
2. Make republicans and Bush look bad since there was torture of some degree projected towards detainees.
3. Justify why he is releasing detainees in his typical unconstitutional manner.

1) Shouldn't have been torturing people in the first place... Not Obama's fault.
2) Republicans & Bush made this bed themselves they can lie in it... Not Obama's fault.
3) Those "detainees" are hostages and kidnap victims who shouldn't have been in Guantanamo without fair trial... Not Obama's fault.

1) Guess Obama's Drone strikes aren't his fault!
2) THose Detainees where and are terrorist who either killed or had a part in killing Americans.
3) As far as torturing Obama doesn't have to do it cause he lets ISIS and other terrorist do it to AMericans for him.

Get a clue!

a reply to: thesaneone

You could be right about us being lack up to 9/11 but since then how many times has the U.S been attacked?

First wouldn't you have to prove that Muslims really attacked us on 9/11?

Maybe these interrogations do work.

No they don't even the Nazis learned that.

Like I said its dirty work to protect our country.

It's only dirty work when you have something illegal to cover up.

a reply to: neo96

Torturing innocent people will stop beheadings?
That's highly illogical.


What children are being chopped in half?
That's a new one.


America is no more evil than anyone else, doesn't change the fact that this is a terrible Human Rights issue.


However if you're talking about the American government, they've never had the moral high ground.
Ever!

a reply to: AgentShillington

You are correct we elect them to make the decisions that we are to soft to do ourselves so we can sleep in peace every night.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: buster2010

These people were never in America and had never attacked America.

Never attacked America ?

I see someone is clearly ignoring the embassy bombings, and the USS Cole

directorblue.blogspot.com...

On August 7, 1998, Al Qaeda bombs the U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Tanzania, killing 225 and wounding 4,000.

en.wikipedia.org...

Clinton's cruise missile attacks.

'Never' attacked anyone eh.

That was effing hilarious.

Where is the proof that the people in those prisons were part of this? I never said we haven't been attacked by terrorist. I said the ones in those prisons never attacked America perhaps you need to work on your reading skills.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Who the hell was innocent ?

What children are being chopped in half?

Miss what ISIS was doing in Iraq ?

Ya know what AQ changed their names to.

So let me get this straight:

Torture is bad!

Firing a hellfire missile sat them is 'better'!

a reply to: sirlancelot

1) Drones are Obama's fault but that's nothing to do with this thread... Deflection.
2) Prove that everyone of them were terrorist... Oh wait they were being tortured because even your government couldn't prove that... False accusation.
3) IS have nothing to do with Obama... Another deflection that's off topic.



Go away!

a reply to: buster2010

What prisons ?

Evin Prison in Iran where people are murdered, and tortured everyday ?

originally posted by: thesaneone
a reply to: AgentShillington

You are correct we elect them to make the decisions that we are to soft to do ourselves so we can sleep in peace every night.

Get a load of this guy.

a reply to: neo96

Who the hell was innocent ?

Quite a lot of people in Guantanamo were/are innocent... That's what this furore is about.


I must have missed what IS did because I've yet to hear about children being chopped in half, a source might help.


Let me give it to you straight so you don't assume...

Torture is bad.

A hellfire missile up the arse of a terror cell will not cause me to lose sleep...
But if it's innocent people, well I don't need to explain.