Cia Interrogation Report, Another Obama Political Move!

Ok so Obama is supporting the release of the $50,000,000 CIA Interrogation report.

The link below illustrates that this report will highlight the tactics used to get information regarding the war on terror that started on 9/11.

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This will accomplish a few things for Obama:

1. Piss off the terrorist and the world at the response America has made to combat terrorism.
2. Make republicans and Bush look bad since there was torture of some degree projected towards detainees.
3. Justify why he is releasing detainees in his typical unconstitutional manner.

It is my opinion that Obama is doing anything and everything to create drama (deflection) so America and the world are so busy protesting that they don't see what is really going on.

Typical ALinsky Tactics.

The release of the report now after 6 years of 'hope, and change', is nothing but a witch hunt.

To take heat off the administration, and one last 'horrah' by the Democratic led Senate.

Basically they sat on it for 6 YEARS!.

Funny how they accused the right of their 'phony' scandals.

When the GD CIA has been torturing people since the days of Vietnam.

What a farce.

Obama's version of Montezuma's revenge.

Anything to distract from the idiot Gruber...

Not even this report could stop me from watching tomorrow.

Let the Bar-B-Que begin.

2. Make republicans and Bush look bad since there was torture of some degree projected towards detainees

Why yes trading terrorists for deserters is 'so' much better.

That is when hes not killing them outright with death from above. As in 'this drone is for you' to terrorists.

Much was made up about Bush.

And I give you all from the ALCU.

The current policy traces its roots to the administration of former President Bill Clinton. Following the attacks of September 11, 2001, however, what had been a limited program expanded dramatically, with some experts estimating that 150 foreign nationals have been victims of rendition in the last few years alone. Foreign nationals suspected of terrorism have been transported to detention and interrogation facilities in Jordan, Iraq, Egypt, Diego Garcia, Afghanistan, Guantánamo, and elsewhere. In the words of former CIA agent Robert Baer: "If you want a serious interrogation, you send a prisoner to Jordan. If you want them to be tortured, you send them to Syria. If you want someone to disappear -- never to see them again -- you send them to Egypt."

www.aclu.org...

What had been a limited plan under Clinton.

We only tortured a little bit!!

But we still tortured.

The CIA wouldn't release anything that they didn't won't anyone to see. So it makes me wonder what part of the master plan is this? All I can say is that we live interesting times and if you follow all that is going on it is playing out like a novel.

1. Piss off the terrorist and the world at the response America has made to combat terrorism.
2. Make republicans and Bush look bad since there was torture of some degree projected towards detainees.
3. Justify why he is releasing detainees in his typical unconstitutional manner.

1) Shouldn't have been torturing people in the first place... Not Obama's fault.
2) Republicans & Bush made this bed themselves they can lie in it... Not Obama's fault.
3) Those "detainees" are hostages and kidnap victims who shouldn't have been in Guantanamo without fair trial... Not Obama's fault.

originally posted by: CharlieSpeirs

1. Piss off the terrorist and the world at the response America has made to combat terrorism.
2. Make republicans and Bush look bad since there was torture of some degree projected towards detainees.
3. Justify why he is releasing detainees in his typical unconstitutional manner.

1) Shouldn't have been torturing people in the first place... Not Obama's fault.
2) Republicans & Bush made this bed themselves they can lie in it... Not Obama's fault.
3) Those "detainees" are hostages and kidnap victims who shouldn't have been in Guantanamo without fair trial... Not Obama's fault.

1. Protecting our country is dirty business... Every presidents responsibility.
2. Muslim terrorists made this bed for themselves... No presidents fault.
3. Re-read number 1.

a reply to: thesaneone

1. Protecting our country is dirty business... Every presidents responsibility.
2. Muslim terrorists made this bed for themselves... No presidents fault.
3. Re-read number 1.

1) Whatever helps you sleep at night.
2) What has that got to do with torturing innocent people?
3) Yeah, whatever pal.

a reply to: thesaneone

If it was all about protecting the country 9/11 would of never happened, it is all about protecting profits. As for the Muslims, any scapegoat in a crisis will do.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

2) Republicans & Bush made this bed themselves they can lie in it... Not Obama's fault

That's a lie.

Look up Vietnam.

Then look up Clinton, and rendition.

It's not the report that is going to cause outrage, it is we did that is going to cause outrage.

a reply to: AgentShillington

Well that was a load of horse snip.

Since they were blowing up planes, and embassies,and ships in port, and flying planes in to buildings LONG Before GW,and the right ever got in to power.

But hey what eve.

a reply to: thesaneone

Except that many, many of the torture victims were not terrorists. Though I am quite certain more than a few will become terrorists now. And who could blame them?

It baffles me that people are so desperate to protect their hero Bush that they will go to any length to point out how he was not the only one. While that is true, the torture program under him is what we are talking about. We already know about Vietnam and rendition under Clinton. At least anyone who has read history should know.

Where I will side with the Bush apologists is their allegations that torture has continued under Obama so it's pretty damn hypocritical to only point out the previous guy's crimes. For Obama to say that "we have ended torture" makes him a damn liar.

originally posted by: neo96
a reply to: AgentShillington

Well that was a load of horse snip.

Since they were blowing up planes, and embassies,and ships in port, and flying planes in to buildings LONG Before GW,and the right ever got in to power.

But hey what eve.

Uhh.. what? What are you even talking about?

Nah, changed my mind

a reply to: neo96

Don't like Clinton, yes he started it...
Bush continued & expanded on it...

Besides, two wrongs don't make a right and never have.
Just goes to prove the two party system is bull#.




I don't know what you're reffering to in regards to Vietnam, maybe you could elaborate.

a reply to: CharlieSpeirs

Who's to say that torture hasn't continued under the current administration? President Obama sure hasn't kept very many of his other promises. Why expect this one to be any different?

a reply to: InvisibleOwl

Maybe droning is more humane?

a reply to: cmdrkeenkid

It has. Obama is a hypocrite.

On 22 January 2009, President Obama released an executive order stating that any individual held by any US government agency "shall not be subjected to any interrogation technique or approach, or any treatment related to interrogation, that is not authorized by and listed in Army Field Manual 2 22.3." But a close reading of Department of Defense documents and investigations by numerous human rights agencies have shown that the current Army Field Manual itself uses techniques that are abusive and can even amount to torture. Disturbingly, the latest version of the AFM mimicked the Bush administration in separating out "war on terror" prisoners as not subject to the same protections and rights as regular prisoners of war. Military authorities then added an appendix to the AFM that included techniques that could only be used on such "detainees", ie, prisoners without POW status. Labeled Appendix M, and propounding an additional, special "technique" called "Separation", human rights and legal group have recognized that Appendix M includes numerous abusive techniques, including use of solitary confinement, sleep deprivation and sensory deprivation. According to Appendix M, sleep can be limited to four hours per day for up to 30 days, and even more with approval. The same is true for use of isolation. Theoretically, sleep deprivation and solitary confinement could be extended indefinitely.

www.theguardian.com...