These disturbing Christian ‘educational’ cartoons may shock you

They may understand it differently and conclude that the Father is someone who is responsible for them .We as parents can only try to do our best with the tools we inherited from our parents .I knew some of the mistakes mine made and decided not to make the same ones but I also was not free from some of the ills and probably made my own unique mistakes . a reply to: Krazysh0t

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
Could there be a bigger elephant in the room ? Common Core may actually be but like so many ways we have of trying to teach our children we seem to be loosing the battle .This vid on Common Core is worth a listen to .Skip tp the 2 min. mark .

Honestly, as a certified teacher I can't understand all of the hysteria about common core...

The main reason for it was that there was far too much variance in education quality and standards across states and localities. Some states really did have horrible and low standards.

originally posted by: Helious
a reply to: tothetenthpower

I have seen people who live and breath these kind of "ideals" first hand and believe me when I say the reality is MUCH more scary than the cartoons that portray it. I was disowned by a large part of my family at a rather young age because I had enough common sense to question what I was being taught and speak out when it didn't sit right in my head. That's how these circles of influence work, very cult like and they value "religion" above all else, even family.

For me personally, this isn't that far off from the radical islamist mindset and while the violence may be absent in extreme Christians, the lifestyle and "religion" consumes them wholly and completely until there is nothing left but a shell of a person parroting the brainwashing they have received their entire lives. It's both scary and quite sad.

I have found that children who grow up in these types of circles have to want to get out of them on their own. In other words, complacency is a very common human trait and some people are happy to slip into it because it's the easy thing to do even if they know something is amiss and it takes a strong person to question beliefs they have been force fed by loved ones and family for the entirety of their life so not many people do it, instead...... They are just obedient.

You can have strong and healthy faith and beliefs that project positivity and happiness both inward and outward without becoming extreme, intolerant and demanding everyone around you believe and act in the same way. For me, that is not what faith and religion are for and why I abandoned that lifestyle and mindset long ago when it did not agree with how I felt inside and reflected what kind of person I wanted to be.

Exactly, I was raised by fundamentalists but rebelled in my teens and took off for a while. Since then my family and I are cool and they accept my non-traditional mode.

Later I was in a relationship and the woman and I had a child. Her family is so extreme Christianity wise that they verbally abused her until she broke up with me and moved back home across the country. All because I'm now spiritual and do not believe in their view of Christianity, the holy spirit didn't tell them I was the one for her, and she can't be "unequally yoked." Some effed up sh$t. And I was raised Christian and am not even an atheist!

You sure that isn't Scientology? I remember the SRA courses having songs like "Shoo Fly Dont Bother Me" I read up to highschool reading thanks to my interest in UFOs. Had I know THAT damn song was connected to what Dr King was trying to say ,naturally I would have not learned it, or spoke of it.
The methodist church lost me when I saw their scorn of out pastor who was guilty of adultery.
You see he buried my dad married my brother and I was more attached to him than any family member trust wise.
God has seen to it that I haven't died yet which comes as a HELL of a surprise. I am anxious to know why.
If it doesn't GIBE with someone elses faith,we'll figure it out when we are DEAD.

THAT is indoctrination ONLY and could be legally called a cult...if it wasn't so protected by laws.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
They may understand it differently and conclude that the Father is someone who is responsible for them .We as parents can only try to do our best with the tools we inherited from our parents .I knew some of the mistakes mine made and decided not to make the same ones but I also was not free from some of the ills and probably made my own unique mistakes . a reply to: Krazysh0t

We can hope they get the right message, but the way it is written doesn't convey that clearly enough. There is clearly more to the message than a boy happy to help his father with whatever building project they are doing.

I must say that it is funny that people are defending such statist propaganda on ATS. A comic that says authority is awesome and people defend it like it is a good thing.

a reply to: tothetenthpower

I don't see a problem with the first 3 cartoons. Nothing wrong with them at all - they aren't even pushing a religious slant.

The 4th cartoon is silly - no liberated woman I know of refuses to feed her kids - they try to be good moms despite their other interests.

If there really is something wrong with this ACE and PACE stuff, the Op isn't showing it in this thread.

If you are going to look at the "shocking" way Christians try to bind the children to a path, maybe you need to include all the others vying for the kids. Governments,select groups, racial themes. At least these are chosen by the parents what else can be done, someone WILL manipulate a direction as we should until a child is grown and start to decide for themselves.

A few quick examples

In short, this video is a clear case of children indoctrination which attempts to normalize high tech surveillance and government data collection to young minds. Notice that, when Shutterbug sends out a picture, Special Agent Oso sees, from his high-tech facility, exactly where it originates from. Another mind numbing product courtesy of the Disney Corporation

vigilantcitizen.com...

Mrs. Iserbyt has also documented the gradual transformation of our once academically
successful education system into one devoted to training children to become compliant
human resources to be used by government and industry for their own purposes. This is how
fascist-socialist societies train their children to become servants of their government masters.
The successful implementation of this new philosophy of education will spell the end of the
American dream of individual freedom and opportunity.

www.deliberatedumbingdown.com...

A Gay Pride clap-along and musical show. In public school.

standupforthetruth.com...

COMICS AND CONFLICT: WAR AND PATRIOTICALLY THEMED COMICS

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No doubt and it was that factor that they focused on to sell their new form of slaveatitude .A simple correction to the problem would have been to give everyone a Classical Liberal Education . I think it's called the Trivium method and is well established . In fact I would bet that Bill Gates sends his kids to a school that has that curriculum . a reply to: Quetzalcoatl14

I would think that understanding a persons responsibility to authority might not be a really bad thing . If a cop points a gun at me and says lay down I don't think I am going to debate him .My dad would have given me a back hand and sent me to my room if I would have questioned his authority even if I though I could have been right . It may just be a survival thing but yea the guy with the gun get's the authority with me . a reply to: Krazysh0t

a reply to: Benevolent Heretic

Except the big difference is that Christians aren't beheading you for not being a Christian. Nor are they forcing you to become one. (No, the annoying knocking at your door from time to time doesn't count.)

As for the cartoons, they are pretty freaky. Especially the girl, "I am glad I obeyed".

Mr Truthword Bin Hiden also said since I was the most obedient and trusting in class
he have a little game he wants me to play it's called pull the pin on my magic vest he said it is going to be soo funny everyone will have a blast and die laughing

a reply to: Spider879

Hahahahaha...That would be heaven for a pedophile! ....eeeghh .....cough..cough

Maybe you all would rather they teach their children to hate their neighbors and other religions by choping off their heads.
a reply to: tothetenthpower

Damn...

That is some crazy stuff.

It reminds me of when I was in the Solomon Islands - there was a church there with a big banner that said "fear of the lord is the first step to knowledge".

Nice.

originally posted by: Cruff
Damn...

That is some crazy stuff.

It reminds me of when I was in the Solomon Islands - there was a church there with a big banner that said "fear of the lord is the first step to knowledge".

Nice.

Do you even understand what that saying means?

a reply to: guitarplayer

Do you? How do you know you are correct?

a reply to: guitarplayer

Obviously, you have a different interpretation of things...

For my money, being afraid of my god doesn't sound like a great way to start things off!

I can sum up the bible in one sentence. "Do as you are told."

Yes I understand the verse do you?
Proverbs 1:7 says, “The fear of the LORD is the beginning of knowledge, but fools despise wisdom and instruction.” This verse gives us some added insight with its antithetical parallelism—there is a sharp contrast between the wise life and the foolish life. A wise person fears/reverences/obeys the Lord; a fool despises God’s instruction and cannot be told what to do. The wise person is wise because he has started at the starting place; the fool has no foundation on which to build wisdom.


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a reply to: Krazysh0t

a reply to: guitarplayer

That's pretty much what I thought you'd say. Fear the lord because he's better than you. I'm in agreement with cruff. I don't want to associate negative emotions with something I'm supposed to love. I think I'll be the fool in that parable.