United Earth - New World Order or One World Government?

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Annee

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I don't necessarily agree with this.

I'd say the majority of people are blind followers, and are perfectly happy as long as their daily needs are met.

However, a "watch dog" level of government will probably be necessary. But, how do you keep the uncorruptable from being corrupted.

a reply to: Annee

Okay, I disagree with that. There is only one souvereign: all the people.
Everyone who feels he gets away with it will be corrupted

A one size fits all cant work . The though of some cultures not having animals in their diets wouldn't work .The Inuit cant grow veggies and fish and foul are animals . Put yourself in other places on the earth and you can see how that might cause a problem for some . a reply to: Aleister

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Annee

Okay, I disagree with that. There is only one souvereign: all the people.
Everyone who feels he gets away with it will be corrupted

A world with 7 billion people thinking they have the individual right and need to govern, is not a world I want to live in.

Talk about a "ME, ME, ME" problem. No thanks.

originally posted by: the2ofusr1
A one size fits all cant work . The though of some cultures not having animals in their diets wouldn't work .The Inuit cant grow veggies and fish and foul are animals . Put yourself in other places on the earth and you can see how that might cause a problem for some . a reply to: Aleister

I'm not talking about a One Fits All.

Just like today there are sub levels of government.

Regional needs does fit into Logic and Analytical thinking.

a reply to: Annee

Like I said before somewhere, the world I am wanting to see is more anarchistic less herarchical. People would pretty quickly reconsider what they need, if they'd be forced to think about it.
But I can see how the industrialised nations are still too wealthy for that to happen. And the ideology would look like you're trying to take something away from them and give it to strangers... So yes there is a me,me,me problem But I am pretty sure we won't have to worry about that much longer... Give it a few years maybe

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Annee

Like I said before somewhere, the world I am wanting to see is more anarchistic less herarchical. People would pretty quickly reconsider what they need, if they'd be forced to think about it.
But I can see how the industrialised nations are still too wealthy for that to happen. And the ideology would look like you're trying to take something away from them and give it to strangers... So yes there is a me,me,me problem But I am pretty sure we won't have to worry about that much longer... Give it a few years maybe

You are leaning more into the NWO conspiracy side.

I am trying to avoid that in serious discussion of a global government.

a reply to: Annee

And how would you do that? A global government would be a seriously super: new world order?

originally posted by: Peeple
a reply to: Annee

And how would you do that? A global government would be a seriously super: new world order?

Describe what a New World Order is to you.

a reply to: Annee

Well an united one government, govering all the little governments

Agenda 21 is the model for the One World Government. It is communist totalitarianism with a new face that Rosa Koire says is called "communitarianism". Sounds nicer eh?

www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com...

a reply to: Annee

The NWO is global governance. I have already posted the newest model. Even George Bush said we were going to have a NWO. He declared they were going to be successful.

Here is the model for global governance. Notice all the buzzwords, and they are calling it "representative democracy". I guess that's assuming they can manufacture consent of the uninformed.

As a global organisation, ICLEI also holds a global governance structure apart from regional representation. Globally, ICLEI has nine Regional Executive Committees (REXComs), each elected by the ICLEI members of the specific region. All REXComs together form the ICLEI Council. The Council represents ICLEI’s global membership by way of representative democracy. It is the supreme decision-making and oversight body of the global association.

www.iclei-europe.org...

Make no mistake though, EPA water regulation right down to the ditch water in your back yard, and Habitat for Humanity are both aspects of Agenda 21. They will regulate water, toilet paper, oh and no beef eating! (because cows fart methane and how dare affluent Americans think they deserve something that 3rd worlders can't afford)

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

well, that would lead to the extinct of cows than... Oh no, save the cows!
I get you are against a new world order? Do you have an opinion, or are you just jealous, because it wasn't your idea?

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
Agenda 21 is the model for the One World Government. It is communist totalitarianism with a new face that Rosa Koire says is called "communitarianism". Sounds nicer eh?

www.democratsagainstunagenda21.com...

And who exactly is following this model?

a reply to: Peeple

Jealous of what or who? Do some research and you will understand my point of view. I like my personal liberty thank you very much.

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: Annee

The NWO is global governance. I have already posted the newest model. Even George Bush said we were going to have a NWO. He declared they were going to be successful.

There is a reason the OP stated separately: "NWO" or "One World Government".

a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

With that set of believes you have none, thank you very much.
How is believing that BS freedom?

globalism is happening if we want it or not.
i suggest usurping that movement and building autonomous small direct democracies, interconnected for any mass decision making

Direct Democracy

a reply to: Annee

It's the same thing, Annee. It's really not that difficult a concept.