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originally posted by: TechUnique
All of what you said can apply to you.
originally posted by: mOjOm
originally posted by: TechUnique
All of what you said can apply to you.
Even if you're right, they would still apply to Creationists as well. You see, it makes no difference if you try and deflect your dishonesty onto someone else and claim "Well they do it too". You're still equally at fault.
Rather than try and shift the blame to someone else, why not show evidence of you being honest instead?? If that's possible that is.
originally posted by: Klassified
OP. This post is not aimed at you personally, but at the video, which I have just finished...
I have never seen anyone try so hard to convince themselves something doesn't exist. It's really quite simple. There is no god, and I don't hate him/her/it, because he/she/it does not exist. However, I, along with many other atheists, ant-theists, and anti-religionists, have grown weary of having the xtian version of a non-existent deity, shoved down our throats for the past 2000 years.
When atheists talk about "god", it's no different than talking as if a unicorn existed. It doesn't, but if I say I would like to ride one if it did, then I suppose by the video's logic, I must actually believe in unicorns, or I wouldn't be talking about them, or want to ride one. Sure, that makes sense. NOT.
Although you may say it was in a hypothetical context, you cannot deny the real emotion. Why is there real emotional attachment, some would even say obsession, over something that they SHOULD, feel indifferent about.
Let me come to your house daily, for the rest of your life, with Koran in hand, and do my best to convince you that that Allah, not Jesus, is the real savior. How long before you throw me out of your house in anger? Why get angry? Allah doesn't exist.
Another interesting observation. Have you noticed that hardcore Atheists seem to have a lot of vested energy in combating creationists? I wonder why that is.
This has been answered thousands of times on ATS. It is because xtianity has spent the last 2000 years vesting every bit of energy they have in conquering the world, by whatever means necessary, including murder, genocide, and torture. Of course, these days we have a kinder, gentler, xtian who wears us down with sheer volume of attacks against our sensibilities.
I am all for anyone believing whatever they want. But don't come knocking on my door, or telling me how I'm going to spend eternity separated from a god I don't even believe exists. I'm sorry, but evangelical/fundamentalist xtianity has earned the vitriol it receives many times over.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TechUnique
This from a person who posts a thread with a video stating no one is an atheist. Dude your the one who is brainwashed.
Pray Tell what do you call a person who doesn't believe in deities.
If you honestly believe you are being called dishonest because your religious preference then that too would be a product of your indoctrination/brainwashing.
originally posted by: Rex282
originally posted by: Klassified
OP. This post is not aimed at you personally, but at the video, which I have just finished...
I have never seen anyone try so hard to convince themselves something doesn't exist. It's really quite simple. There is no god, and I don't hate him/her/it, because he/she/it does not exist. However, I, along with many other atheists, ant-theists, and anti-religionists, have grown weary of having the xtian version of a non-existent deity, shoved down our throats for the past 2000 years.
When atheists talk about "god", it's no different than talking as if a unicorn existed. It doesn't, but if I say I would like to ride one if it did, then I suppose by the video's logic, I must actually believe in unicorns, or I wouldn't be talking about them, or want to ride one. Sure, that makes sense. NOT.
Although you may say it was in a hypothetical context, you cannot deny the real emotion. Why is there real emotional attachment, some would even say obsession, over something that they SHOULD, feel indifferent about.
Let me come to your house daily, for the rest of your life, with Koran in hand, and do my best to convince you that that Allah, not Jesus, is the real savior. How long before you throw me out of your house in anger? Why get angry? Allah doesn't exist.
Another interesting observation. Have you noticed that hardcore Atheists seem to have a lot of vested energy in combating creationists? I wonder why that is.
This has been answered thousands of times on ATS. It is because xtianity has spent the last 2000 years vesting every bit of energy they have in conquering the world, by whatever means necessary, including murder, genocide, and torture. Of course, these days we have a kinder, gentler, xtian who wears us down with sheer volume of attacks against our sensibilities.
I am all for anyone believing whatever they want. But don't come knocking on my door, or telling me how I'm going to spend eternity separated from a god I don't even believe exists. I'm sorry, but evangelical/fundamentalist xtianity has earned the vitriol it receives many times over.
Thanks Klassified this should be a required prerequisite reading sticky post before any threads about Atheist are posted.The same baseless tirades against over and over will wear on any reasonable persons senses.The fact the many fail to see is it is far more detrimental to believe in a false God that is not real than to NOT believe in a false God...thanks for denying ignorance.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TechUnique
As I said if anyone is the victim of brainwashing/indoctrination here that would be you.
Are you finding this whacked out stuff on your own or is it being taught to you via some online course or your church.
Seriously man if you actually believe the stuff you keep presenting and pushing you need to find a good head shrink before you completely lose your grip on reality. The stuff you are spouting is unhealthy for you. Honest question here. Are you some part of a christian cult?
originally posted by: TechUnique
I'm not dishonest. You automatically assume so because I am Christian and I posted Christian related threads. Everyone automatically jumped the gun on the Christian thing, focused on that and the usual scapegoat of Homosexuality being a sin. That same pervasive 'liberal' attitude that let's people get away with stuff because of political correction.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
a reply to: TechUnique
I am sure you aware of the T&C here and I certainly haven't resorted to calling you names. Maybe that bugs you because I noticed in your other thread where you were being berated a bit that you seemed to thrive off of it. I think you like when people are mean to you so you can play the poor persecuted christian routine.
Sorry but I don't need to stoop so low and be base like that.
Anyway if it is as you claim and your head is being filled with all this illuminati end of world stuff because you're reading the bible then I feel sorry for you. After reading some of your threads and your posts it seems to me that you hope the end is neigh. I have seen that with other christians where they hope it is the end of times so they can get their reward and they see everything as a sign of the end. Christians have been doing that for over a thousand years.
Let me put your mind at ease though so maybe you can move on with life (keep your faith I don't care other christians manage it) in your little book it says that no one will know the day it happens and remember your group will be a persecuted minority. Be happy or maybe in your case I should say sorry because you guys are nowhere near being a minority. So move on with life get out of your doom and gloom funk. Like I said that stuff isn't healthy for you.
Get well soon.
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: Akragon
a reply to: TechUnique
I would say its because some people have a hard time swallowing the fact that some people believe the world is 6k years old and man walked with dinosaurs
Im no atheist but the very idea makes me want to slam my head against the wall...
There is evidence to suggest that dinosaurs and homo sapiens have coexisted. Note how I said, suggest.
Soft tissue found in dinosaur bones
Obviously they've got an an answer for it. What do you think of the answer?
originally posted by: TechUnique
originally posted by: Rex282
originally posted by: Klassified
OP. This post is not aimed at you personally, but at the video, which I have just finished...
I have never seen anyone try so hard to convince themselves something doesn't exist. It's really quite simple. There is no god, and I don't hate him/her/it, because he/she/it does not exist. However, I, along with many other atheists, ant-theists, and anti-religionists, have grown weary of having the xtian version of a non-existent deity, shoved down our throats for the past 2000 years.
When atheists talk about "god", it's no different than talking as if a unicorn existed. It doesn't, but if I say I would like to ride one if it did, then I suppose by the video's logic, I must actually believe in unicorns, or I wouldn't be talking about them, or want to ride one. Sure, that makes sense. NOT.
Although you may say it was in a hypothetical context, you cannot deny the real emotion. Why is there real emotional attachment, some would even say obsession, over something that they SHOULD, feel indifferent about.
Let me come to your house daily, for the rest of your life, with Koran in hand, and do my best to convince you that that Allah, not Jesus, is the real savior. How long before you throw me out of your house in anger? Why get angry? Allah doesn't exist.
Another interesting observation. Have you noticed that hardcore Atheists seem to have a lot of vested energy in combating creationists? I wonder why that is.
This has been answered thousands of times on ATS. It is because xtianity has spent the last 2000 years vesting every bit of energy they have in conquering the world, by whatever means necessary, including murder, genocide, and torture. Of course, these days we have a kinder, gentler, xtian who wears us down with sheer volume of attacks against our sensibilities.
I am all for anyone believing whatever they want. But don't come knocking on my door, or telling me how I'm going to spend eternity separated from a god I don't even believe exists. I'm sorry, but evangelical/fundamentalist xtianity has earned the vitriol it receives many times over.
Thanks Klassified this should be a required prerequisite reading sticky post before any threads about Atheist are posted.The same baseless tirades against over and over will wear on any reasonable persons senses.The fact the many fail to see is it is far more detrimental to believe in a false God that is not real than to NOT believe in a false God...thanks for denying ignorance.
If it wears on you that much why are you even here in the thread and partaking? Just for the spectacle?