Part 1c - We are the fallen Angels in Human Form

This is the continuation of a multi-part series exploring the Kore Kosmou (Virgin of the World Fragment from Egypt), its relation to the Bible and the Hermetic teachings of the Egyptian Priests to Moses.

Part 1a
Suppliment - Emerald Tablet of Hermes
Part 1b

And what did the souls do, O my Mother?

And Isis answered: They took the mingled material, O my Son Horos, and began to reflect thereon, and to adore this combination, the work of the Father. Then, fearing that this search might excite the anger of the Father, they set themselves to carry out His commands.

Once the protoplasm was given to the Sons of God, they began tinkering on the design of the substance. Fearing the wrath of the Father (Elohim), they began there work to design forms for planets. Little did they know, they would inhabit the forms they created. We get to this eventually in the fragment. Hermes creates the Human form for their eventual home form on high.

Therefore, taking the upper portion of the protoplasm, that which was lightest, they created of it the race of birds. The compound having now become more compact and assuming a denser consistency, they formed of it the quadrupeds; while of the thickest part which needed a moist vehicle for its support, they made the fishes. The remainder, being cold and heavy, was employed by the souls in the creation of reptiles.

The parallel to this from the Bible is Yahweh forming (not creating) mankind on His heaven and earth (our solar system). He planted (not created) the garden. He cause the seed to grow by watering it. Genesis 2 covers this creative process. He also made the snake, which turned out to deceive his own creation. As Islamic texts point out, Satan refused to incorporate. As you see later, Yahweh became Adonai (Yahweh in human form). He eventually made the decision to be baptized into life. Read my other threads to see how this works. Genesis 9 shows us that Yahweh's blood was shed on the cross by human hands to fulfill Genesis 9.

Forthwith, O my Son, proud of their work, they were not afraid to transgress the Divine law, and, in spite of the prohibition, they receded from their appointed limits.

The Divine Law mentioned here was that the divine beings (Sons of God) were not supposed to travel beyond their own galaxy/possible solar system. In this episode, they began to travel. Read about this divine law in Part 1b. Breaking this one law can be found in parallel from Jude 1 and Genesis 6, the Book of Enoch and the current book being discussed.

Genesis 6

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

Jude 1

6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day.

Compare this to the Divine Law: "The abode which awaits you is heaven, with its galaxy of stars and its thrones of virtue. If you attempt any transgression against my decree, I swear by my sacred breath, by that elixir of which I formed you, and by my creative hands, that I will speedily forge for you chains and cast you into punishment.

The abode they were assigned was not to be left. Note the similarity to Jude 1: "6 And the angels who did not keep their positions of authority but abandoned their proper dwelling—these he has kept in darkness, bound with everlasting chains for judgment on the great Day."

KORE KOSMOU: Not willing to remain longer in the same abode, they moved ceaselessly, and repose seemed to them death.

They were restless. God had given them the task of populating and watching their own planet (Watchers / Grigori) and they traveled between realms, even marrying themselves to the daughters of men. The corrupted seed then became Nephilim. Ilim means divine being. Neph means cloud, or a covering over the divinity. In our case, it is the divine trapped in the animal body.

Genesis 3

21 The Lord God made garments of skin for Adam and his wife and clothed them.

We were clothed with the beast we must overcome. The body locks us in chains of darkness, just as the divine command had stated.

But, O my Son (thus Hermes informed me) their conduct could not escape the eye (note that it is a single eye) of the Lord God of all things; He minded to punish them, and to prepare for them hard bonds (toil on the Earth). The Ruler and Master of the universe (Elohim) resolved then for the penance of the Souls, to mould the human organism, and having called me to Him, said Hermes, He spoke in this wise: "O soul of my soul, holy thought of my thought, how long shall earthly Nature remain sad? How long shall the creation already produced continue inactive and without praise? Bring hither before me all the god's of heaven."

Thus God spoke and all obeyed His decree. "Look upon the earth," He said to them, "and upon all things beneath." Straightaway they looked, and understood the will of the Lord. And when He spoke to them of the creation of Man, asking of each what he would bestow upon the race about to be born, the Sun first replied: "I will illuminate mankind...."

You can reference the Kore Kosmou to read the rest of the gods would bestow. They are as follows: Sun, Moon, Kronos, Zeus, Ares, Aphrodite and Hermes.

Hermes says this: I will endow human nature with Wisdom, Temperance, Persuasion, and Truth; nor will I cease to ally myself with Invention. I will ever protect the mortal life of such men as are born under my signs, seeing that to me the Creator and Father has attributed in the Zodiac, sings of Knowledge and Intelligence; above all, when the movement which draws thereto the stars is in harmony with the physical forces of each."

After this, Hermes is told to take the residue left of the Protoplasm and make humans from the leftovers. After forming humans, the transgressing souls were informed of what comes next as their punishment.

Hermes: "and from below, I called upon the Lord to behold what I had done. He saw it, and approved. Straight away, He ordained that the souls should be incorporated; and they were seized with horror on learning what should be their condemnation.

In other words, humans are the souls that were the original souls of the Heavens. We transgressed and were locked up in human form. We are the fallen souls from the event horizon of creation. Placed in the residue of the creative substance. As the Bible points out, we are to be saved from this condition. How?

Islamic tradition states that Satan refused to incorporate. Instead, he deceived mankind. The Bible states that Yahweh made the snake. By this, we can see why we have had bloodshed and war for these many years. As the Bible states, we are baptized (involution) for the express purpose of evolution (rising to new life from this mortal coil).

Yahweh is the Lord of Hosts. What inhabits the Host body?

End of Part 1c

a reply to: AlephBet

We are not fallen angels, our souls were made in the image of God. Instead, we (the Church) are called out to replace the angels that fell. Israel was originally groomed for this purpose, but just as the Church replaced Israel as the Bride of Christ, the Bride of Christ will replace the fallen host. We cant be the fallen host if we are to replace the fallen host, just as the Church cannot be Israel if we are to replace Israel.

a reply to: AlephBet

Uh oh. I usually somewhat enjoy reading your theories. Sometimes I agree, but this time I have to pull you up on the fact that you're getting your wisdom of what we are as creatures under Yahweh from sources that come from Yahweh's enemies.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Right on. Though, it's not necessarily our spirits which are in God's image but our bodies. We don't really resemble God in our spiritual nature, considering we're all sinners.

P.s Whose going to replace us haha

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: AlephBet

We are not fallen angels, our souls were made in the image of God. Instead, we (the Church) are called out to replace the angels that fell. Israel was originally groomed for this purpose, but just as the Church replaced Israel as the Bride of Christ, the Bride of Christ will replace the fallen host. We cant be the fallen host if we are to replace the fallen host, just as the Church cannot be Israel if we are to replace Israel.

That's a really interesting perspective you have. Would this be equivalent to Enoch saying that the righteous must be present to see the unrighteous judged?

Enoch One (Opening Statement)

1.1 These are the words of the blessing of Enoch; according to which the blessed the chosen and righteous who must be present on the day of distress, which is appointed, for the removal of all the wicked and impious. 1.2 And Enoch began his story and said: -There was a righteous man whose eyes were opened by the Lord, and he saw a Holy vision in the Heavens, which the Angels showed to me. And I heard everything from them, and I understood what I saw: but not for this generation, but for a distant generation that will come.

Note the bolded part. The righteous must be present. Today, humanity is seven billion strong. All eyes are here today, both righteous and unrighteous. I do agree with you on this, but I also know that we are all fallen into sin. Clearly, even the righteous sin.

Also, Acts 24:

15 and I have the same hope in God as these men themselves have, that there will be a resurrection of both the righteous and the wicked. 16 So I strive always to keep my conscience clear before God and man.

As I have said many times, baptism is the involution of the soul into water. Resurrection is the Mother receiving back the dead.

Hebrews 11

35 Women received back their dead, raised to life again. There were others who were tortured, refusing to be released so that they might gain an even better resurrection.

These were those of Israel who died in war. The mothers received their children back as born again (resurrected again). Some refused, but instead waited for a better resurrection.

Again, in 1 Peter 3, we are told that the flood of Noah is symbolism for baptism that cleanses us from sin. Even the book of Enoch describes the beasts in the flood as aspects of man's nature.

I agree with you on this, but it does not exclude who we are in relation to the Angels we are above. Have you considered the passages that speak of being baptized for the dead?

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: AlephBet

Uh oh. I usually somewhat enjoy reading your theories. Sometimes I agree, but this time I have to pull you up on the fact that you're getting your wisdom of what we are as creatures under Yahweh from sources that come from Yahweh's enemies.

There is a reason Moses had to be raised in Egypt. There is a reason Joseph was there before him to translate. There is a reason Abraham traveled to Egypt. I say the reason is in the story. Some of the keys are in the Corpus Hermeticum. Some are in the poetry of Rumi the Sufi.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

In relation to what you say, it might be worth noting that Yahweh was self-righteous, while the humans he motivated seemed to him wicked. Could it be that the righteous are only that way in their own estimation? Could it be that the wicked are simply mirrors of the self-righteous? We fail to see love, in my view, if we forget that love keeps no records of wrongs. Elohim and Ruach Elohim seem to me to be neutral compared to positive (self-righteous) and negative (wicked). Love that keeps no records of wrongs can only show the Golden Mean in my estimation. I think this is the secret to this verse:

Ephesians 2:15

...by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace,

It's a brilliant plan if we can conceive how the two are brought together as one new creation. I fail to see how, but with God, there is likely a way. It's always my hope to see the end of division and war. Part of Enoch message to the fallen beings is that they would have no peace. We have not had peace on Earth as far as we have recorded history to know.

Just tagging this so I can come back to it. I really don't have much input . But find this interesting......

a reply to: Emerald53

It can be said that our bodies were modeled after Yehwah-Elohim (the Son) as well, but our souls are definately modeled after that of God's. It doesnt make us God, just like God in the sense that we can understand what He reveals. We are sinners now, but God did not do that to us.

Look at the Hebrew of Gen 1:26 & 27.

God formed (yatsar) us from the dust, but created (yibra & na'asheh) us in His image. Our bodies formed, and spirit & soul manufatured.

a reply to: AlephBet

I think the Book of Enoch reflects this "angelic replacement" doctrine because Israel was at some point aware of it, but I think Enoch was written by the Essenes, or other factions long after the flood. It is interesting to see the parallel though.

There are other NT references that mention a triumphal procession. I cant remember those verses off the top of my head, but the idea is that in a Roman triumphal procession, the soldiers march 1to1 with the prisoners before the spectators, before escorting them to prison. The Church will probably escort the fallen angels to hell at some point.

Observe the competing translations of Deut 32:8.

"When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel.

The LXX states that the nations are divided by the Sons of Elohim (fallen angels).

Both translations are correct if you understand that Israel was called out to replace the fallen angels. When Nimrod fell, the fallen angels took control of the 70 tibes of the earth, while Yehwah-Elohim had to redeem the firstborn of Israel from Egypt, for Himself.

a reply to: AlephBet

Great point. Though, do we truly know why they were there ?

I do believe that all Pagan Gods exist. And that they're simply Fallen Angels and Nephelim. And so I wouldn't take into account the creation story from the enemies of the Creator.

a reply to: AlephBet

In relation to what you say, it might be worth noting that Yahweh was self-righteous, while the humans he motivated seemed to him wicked.

I disagree with this view, you seem to imply that Yehwah was or is fallen at some point. To my knowledge, you are basing this on a misinterpretation of a very poorly translated verse from Job (I forget the exact verse).

Yehwah would not be able to redeem us through His incarnation as Christ, if He were fallen. The whole point of faith in Christ, is that there is no salvation for a fallen creature apart from the sacrifice of an innocent being. If Yehwah was fallen, then what redeemed Him so that He could in turn redeem us. Suffering of self does not lead to redemption, but only the willing sacrifice of an innocent.

a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

Both translations are correct if you understand that Israel was called out to replace the fallen angels. When Nimrod fell, the fallen angels took control of the 70 tibes of the earth, while Yehwah-Elohim had to redeem the firstborn of Israel from Egypt, for Himself.

Thank you for sharing a great perspective I have not connected yet.

As I ready your view, I relate this to Isaiah 19: 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”

Egypt His People. Assyria his handiwork and Israel his inheritance. How do you read this by your view? Calling Egypt his people seems to be a contradiction to calling Israel his people throughout scripture.

To me, this gets to the heart of Hagar and Isahmael's 12 tribes mentioned in Genesis. She was Egyptian, making Ishmael a blending. Issac then is part of Abraham as well.

Genesis 25:18

His descendants settled in the area from Havilah to Shur, near the eastern border of Egypt, as you go toward Ashur. And they lived in hostility toward all the tribes related to them.

It seems the Assyrians fit into this as well. 24 tribes in all between Egypt and Israel.

Again, I will point out that Elohim's promise before all the selecting of nations was to ALL nations (colors of the rainbow). Yahweh went against it causing the present conflicts today. Clearly he was messing with the Image of God, causing his own problems throughout history. Our problems are by his creation of the Snake and the dividing of humanity. It will always come back to this problem.

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: AlephBet

Great point. Though, do we truly know why they were there ?

I do believe that all Pagan Gods exist. And that they're simply Fallen Angels and Nephelim. And so I wouldn't take into account the creation story from the enemies of the Creator.

Psalms 89

5 O Yahweh, the heavens praise your miracles
and your faithfulness in the assembly of the holy ones.
6 Who in the skies can compare with Yahweh?
Who among the heavenly beings is like Yahweh?
7 El is terrifying in the council of the holy ones.

The divine council of El is made up of the B'nai Elohim, or Sons of God. Not just one Son, but many. As I assume, we may very well be part of this legion of many. 1/3 of heaven fell. How many is 1/3 of all heaven? Too many things we don't know here.

I agree, there are many. 1 Corinthians 10 says, "We, who are many, are one loaf." God is One. We come from the one. God looks at us to see his image. What can that say about his image if we are fallen?

originally posted by: Emerald53
a reply to: AlephBet

Go believe that all Pagan Gods exist. And that they're simply Fallen Angels and Nephelim. And so I wouldn't take into account the creation story from the enemies of the Creator.

This is a fantastic point. As I stated, when Nimrod's empire was divided up, the 70 tribal nations were given to be ruled by demon-gods. Since Israel was the only representative of Yehwah-Elohim at the time, only the OT can be viewed as truth, but not the competing contemporary pagan mysteries.

However, there are some interesting parallels. For example, if you consider Nimrod to be Osiris, there were 72 characters that conspired to destroy Osiris. That is 70 nations handed over to the elite demons, Satan is 71 as god of this world, and Yehwah-Elohim is 72 as the God of Israel. This implies that Satan was willing to destroy his pawn, 'Nimrod' for compartmentalized control of the whole world. I dont think he expected that Yehwah-Elohim would successfully redeem the nations at the cross.

The book of enoch speaks of angels who made a pact to transgress the word of God and took for themselves wives and showed us unrighteous ways.

How does this consolidate with what yoy are saying? Weren't we deceived by the snake in the garden that knowing good and evil would make us like God?

The story of Adam and eve happened before the flood. They were fooled by the snake then the fallen descended gave us more knowledge which led to the flood then we started again? When were the puramids built before or after the flood?

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: AlephBet

In relation to what you say, it might be worth noting that Yahweh was self-righteous, while the humans he motivated seemed to him wicked.

I disagree with this view, you seem to imply that Yehwah was or is fallen at some point. To my knowledge, you are basing this on a misinterpretation of a very poorly translated verse from Job (I forget the exact verse).

Yehwah would not be able to redeem us through His incarnation as Christ, if He were fallen. The whole point of faith in Christ, is that there is no salvation for a fallen creature apart from the sacrifice of an innocent being. If Yehwah was fallen, then what redeemed Him so that He could in turn redeem us. Suffering of self does not lead to redemption, but only the willing sacrifice of an innocent.

You may have missed my previous threads on this, but remember one thing: We all call Adonai Lord. He was Adonai in the OT and the NT. They are the Lord. He was (Yahweh), Is (Christ) and is to come (King Eternal). At each stage, he must be each of the Trinity.

Adam to Abraham - Father
Issac to Jesus - Son
Mary to Today - Holy Spirit

Much more than Job 19, Genesis 9 tells you the truth. Yahweh is not the lamb. The child Yahweh becomes through baptism is the lamb. Behold, he makes "ALL THINGS" new. Not some things. ALL things, including Himself. Fully man means fully human. Yahweh was not human until he was. Remember, AMN is Amen, or TRUE. AMN in Greek (NT) is Lamb. I have shown you the 8 words that show child birth as the lamb in the mother's cup before. Amnesia is part of what it means to be fully human. Yahweh didn't know he was Christ.

Genesis 9

9 Elohim blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fertile, increase in number, and fill the earth. 2 All the wild animals and all the birds will fear you and be terrified of you. Every creature that crawls on the ground and all the fish in the sea have been put under your control. 3 Everything that lives and moves will be your food. I gave you green plants as food; I now give you everything else.

4 “But you are not to eat meat with blood in it. (Blood is life.) 5 In addition, I will demand your blood for your life. I will demand it from any animal or from any person. I will demand the life of any person who kills another person.

6 Whoever sheds human blood,
by humans his blood will be shed,
because in his image, Elohim made humans.

7 Be fertile, and increase in number. Spread over the earth, and increase.”

Elohim stated this to Yahweh and man. Who shed the blood of Adam (rib) to divide mankind's image into separate genders? Who created the Snake? Who shed human blood throughout the OT? Yahweh in all cases. Was the cross payment for the shedding of blood? Did humans (Israel) shed His blood? Yes. He was a lamb to the slaughter. Yes. As a child. Baptism is the Flood of Noah. Yahweh experienced it as a man, thereby humbling him. He got to experience bloodshed first hand.

You can only learn to do unto others when you experience what its like to taste your own actions harming others. For us, salvation from the Snake makes way more sense if you recognize what it took to overcome the snake. His job to save us is finished. His job to put the snake in the abyss is just coming to a close. 1000 years of rest, then the snake deceives the nations again.

It's far from over.

a reply to: AlephBet

As I ready your view, I relate this to Isaiah 19: 25 The Lord Almighty will bless them, saying, “Blessed be Egypt my people, Assyria my handiwork, and Israel my inheritance.”

Thats a very good question. I have not given it much thought, but off the top of my head;

Isaiah 19:19 talks about the alter in the center of Egypt. At this point, Im of the opinion that it is a reference to the center Giza pyramid. It has a square base, and was lined with 144,000 limestone bricks. This could be a scale replica of the satellite city of New Jerusalem. So perhaps the first inhabitants of Egypt (the Mizraim?) Were faithful to Yehwah-Elohim.

Assyria is indeed God's handy work. During the fall of Sameria, Assyria was the rod of God's anger used to judge His nation. We see this again during the 70th week when the Assyrian antichrist is used to bring Israel to repentance. Zephania 2 or 3 identifies Ninevah as the location of Mystery Babylon (implicating Nimrod-Abaddon as the antichrist), and during Jonah's day, Nineveh was evangelized, and the faithfulness to Yehwah became widespread. Then, you have Nimrod, who established the cities of Babel and Nineveh, which eventually became Assyria and Babylon (hence Mystery Babylon in Nineveh). Assyria has certainly been instrumental in God's plan.

a reply to: AlephBet

Much more than Job 19, Genesis 9 tells you the truth. Yahweh is not the lamb.

Job 19 is a condemnation against those who would conspire against Christ, it does not by any means imply that Christ (even as Yehwah) was guilty of anything.

Yehwah was not the Lamb in the OT form, but He did know that He would become the Lamb, and He even planned on it. The temple rituals of the spotless lamb slaughters were His ordinance, those were designed to teach that Yehwah would eventually incarnate, and pay for the sins of man. Was He taking a taste of His own medicine? In a sense yes. Yehwah-Elohim had every right to destroy all of mankind at the moment of Adam's fall, His sense of justice demanded it. The fact that He let us live meant that justice had to eventually be executed. When sinners live, they hate, kill, steal, rape, and solicite worship. In order for Yehwah to allow these sins to continue, He would eventually have to take the judgement upon Himself. Its not injustice, but delayed justice.

Now, the nations that Yehwah eradicated were His enemies. They were given to be the inheretance of demons. When they stood against Israel under His stewardship, Yehwah had every right to violently defend His inheretance. Dont forget, that Yehwah created us, only He has the right to kill us. Even during the Millenium there will be a death penalty for the unjust, and even at Jesus' return to earth, millions will be killed by His hand. Does that mean that Christ is still fallen? He was never fallen to begin with.

Just wanted to chime in to tell you that you are close to the truth (revelation) IMO..what you do once you receive your message is your choice (if you haven't received it yet) however from one who lost the knowledge I can tell you it is extremely frustrating to climb back up the ladder so to speak. At one point in time I would have been very deep into this conversation but today it's almost incomprehensible if not for the fact that I do retain little bits of memory from those days when I had my own "revelation" although I always called it enlightenment