The Empty Verses: As Above, So below.

As I think I know?
So I know a think!

a reply to: LesMisanthrope

Ever hear of fractals?

a reply to: DJW001

originally posted by: DJW001
Ever hear of fractals?

It is a fact to all,
All directions of a fractal,
Are direct and to the point.

a reply to: ErgoTheAbsurd

A more modern interpretation.
With Fibonacci sequence of course.

"Lateralus"

Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn beyond the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition, missing opportunities and I must
Feed my will to feel my moment drawing way outside the lines.

Black then white are all I see in my infancy.
red and yellow then came to be, reaching out to me.
lets me see there is so much more
and beckons me to look through to these infinite possibilities.
As below, so above and beyond, I imagine
drawn outside the lines of reason.
Push the envelope. Watch it bend.

Over thinking, over analyzing separates the body from the mind.
Withering my intuition leaving all these opportunities behind.

Feed my will to feel this moment urging me to cross the line.
Reaching out to embrace the random.
Reaching out to embrace whatever may come.

I embrace my desire to
feel the rhythm, to feel connected
enough to step aside and weep like a widow
to feel inspired, to fathom the power,
to witness the beauty, to bathe in the fountain,
to swing on the spiral
of our divinity and still be a human.

With my feet upon the ground I lose myself
between the sounds and open wide to suck it in.
I feel it move across my skin.
I'm reaching up and reaching out.
I'm reaching for the random or what ever will bewilder me.
And following our will and wind we may just go where no one's been.
We'll ride the spiral to the end and may just go where no one's been.

Spiral out. Keep going...

originally posted by: AlephBet
a reply to: tetra50

No. It is sadly mistaken and this can be seen from my post above. Below, my post is the same.

Tis true without lying, certain & most true.

No, tis no truth but what you wish it to be so.
That is how this paradigm has been sculpted, or made to appear. You expect it to be so, and you look for verification.
This is called a verification fallacy where one will look for only the facts that suit the situation to be proven.

As we suggested in Historical Fallacies One, the tone of some responses to historical clarification in the Haass/O’Sullivan talks was – though certainly not Stalinist – at least impatient at the suggestion that ‘contending with the past’ required the application of thrice verifiable techniques. The past, so one imagines their argument, is too important to be left to the historians. The reason is that the past is not considered to be ‘historical’ at all, but ‘practical’, concerned only incidentally with proof as factual verification and mainly with proof as in ‘proving one’s case’. Moreover, there appears to be an unspoken assumption that somehow the proposition that ‘contending with the past’ is pre-eminently the job of the historian is itself an intolerable presumption. We noted in the previous post why this is not the case but it is worth repeating the argument.

Fischer is an excellent guide here (42-3). He observes that there is:

A common confusion between the way historical knowledge is acquired and the validity of that knowledge.
A common confusion between knowledge that is ‘incomplete’ with ‘partiality’ or even ‘falsehood’.
A common mistake that there is a ‘mistake-proof’ intellectual discipline and history certainly isn’t that discipline.
Therefore, concedes Fischer, ‘it is correct argue that no historian can hope to know the totality of history as it actually happened. But it is wrong to conclude that objective historical knowledge is therefore impossible’. Those mistakes and logical errors inform the political reluctance to allow the past to be considered as history.

To understand more fully, this article about Northern Ireland's past accountings is a good foothold at grasping an understanding of how information is used and dealt with, and how the present historians come to grips with an accounting of the past that suits their present situation, whether true or not. In this endeavor, they will seek the information that informs their stance of today, and so on, and so on….so that one day, we have come to this many layers situation, much like the many worlds proposal of string theory. And the point is it makes a string of things appear to be related in sequence and theme, just as you've edified, here.

In other words, you have, sadly, just selected what appears to support your view.
That's all. And you are correct that it is sad, for it may be true, but because you have sought it so diligently, so as to force a "truth," when it's just more obfuscation, is the saddest irony of all.
regards,
tetra

a reply to: tetra50

Or, 1:1 is one thing, as explained in an orthogonal linear matrix.

ONE THING

From One, MANY

Feeling a bit bedaggered?

You can choose not to see what Hermes was saying about Luna and Sol, but you miss the opportunity it presents if you do. A clear understanding of linear mathematics would help you out. I explained it as simply as possible, showing how your 3D body casts a 2D shadow. As above, so below is a simple way of saying that there are two directions above all the cardinal directions of spatial / temporal reality. Just as a 2D flatlander cannot see up and down, you can can know what they miss. Just as future and past are the two directions you can only infer, a creature above your frame of reference can see your entire history at one time. No need to say it is not true. Clearly, it is. Learn from the clues I have provided and you will see more than simply what the document reveals. You will see what it also hides. Look at right angles to know.

The object of life is to seek, find and adjust. Those who refuse to seek will never find. Faith is more than simple belief in what is unseen. It is insight from outer sight. Seeking is turning in (by volution and not facing a direction). Trun it inside and you will see how the revolution of the mind is mirrored by the revolution of the sun, moon, earth, galaxy and solar system. Above and below are so obvious once you see clearly.

a reply to: AlephBet

Look that's the problem…linear mathematics….linear anything, in this place borne out of anything but one thing following another. It appears to be this way, but that is only the appearance. There are many appearances which are just that: what something looks like. Obviously, that it isn't what it looks like is a deduced fact from the implication in the word.

You think one year follows another, 2013, 2014 and so on. But it doesn't, and it hasn't. In making the "rules" of this place, the ruler of it has broken every one of those appearing rules. Every single one. Time isn't what most people think it is. Nothing here is. That's how the appearance of this place was made. But it's only an appearance, nothing more. In fact, almost everything here that appears to lead to a certain conclusion, in fact leads to the opposite….

If we are to survive intact, ethically, here, we must know this, and act with this knowledge in our mindset of rules, inmymosthumbleopinion….
regards to you, alephbet
tetra

a reply to: AlephBet

You need the right tool to draw a perfect circle ... Thanks again Mr Maynard for inspiring me that one.

Seriously, consider a spiral instead of a circle.

a reply to: LesMisanthrope
I must agree with you during a meditation experience I have found a deeper understanding that what is bound on earth is bound in heaven and vice versa. However I also came to an understanding that our perception of reality is very limited. now I think of humans as upside down trees in that we feed ourselves with our hands and feet and our brains are the root system. That with the analogy that humans are butterflies in that we transform into a different type of energy explained a lot to me.

It is now my opinion that the earth is a type of energy filter and the spirit and soul must reach an understanding of unmeasurable infinite large and small to feel what the universe is about including dark energy...

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: AlephBet

You need the right tool to draw a perfect circle ... Thanks again Mr Maynard for inspiring me that one.

Seriously, consider a spiral instead of a circle.

Yes, exactly. You have said in this thread repeatedly what I cannot say in just the way you have, so simply. I've starred you repeatedly for it, as well.
regards,
tetra

a reply to: theultimatebelgianjoke
actually I think we are like particles being held in a sponge type substance between dark energy and our own reality.
I am finding measurable scientific proof of it.

a reply to: neodruid66

Personally if you can achieve this weird perspective of mine, I suggest you try to find the similarity you can have in Zen philosophy (Ying VS Yang - Excess of Ying generates Yang and Vice-versa) and the Heisenberg duality principle (The particle & the wave - concentration VS dissipation) as starting point.

But my guess is that you may well be far beyond that step already.

a reply to: neodruid66
I am forming a good hypothesis on this. Every time a single neuron in our brian fires off it burns a little bit of oxygen.
That is a scientifically measured fact. That being said the energy in our minds which are our thoughts must go somewhere. I feel there is a boundary just beyond our conscious minds that we must feel in our own minds to cross over and come back. That would be the above part, or heaven. Imagine access to heaven and our universe as a playground..

a reply to: neodruid66
I have been astral travelling around thirty years. Just in meditation. Now I am putting some parts of the puzzle together.
timing, cycles (or circles), variables, and absolute truths. In our reality they are everything.

Hemoglobin as a consciousness carrier…..i like it, as a theory. The firewall aspect not so much…but maybe i have described it wrong, in using the term "firewall," for the mind has no such barrier. When reading about consciousness and microwaves and what we emit while "thinking,"….I'll find the thread and poste a link here. This thread talked about the aura of people being the microwave sign emittance of their brain production, going out so far from the human body and being affected, as well, along that boundary line.
ETA: This is the thread: www.abovetopsecret.com...

a reply to: tetra50

originally posted by: theultimatebelgianjoke
a reply to: AlephBet

You need the right tool to draw a perfect circle ...

... And when you'll figure out about the Foo-Fighters, you'll want to reach Nirvana.
Hey, this is a conspirationist forum after all.

The fractal nature of the material world is visible all throughout nature and the universe.

You have no clue what your talking about.

Perhaps the earth is an energy filter and children are the seeds that must branch out their thoughts and feelings.
Everything in the universe branches out. Maybe there was someone 2 or 3 thousand years ago that understood this.
Even now humanity is still evolving along with the ecosphere around us. If god is the energy in the universe, and the conversion of energy is entropy, this would make sense. Time would only be the manifestation of entropy. Natural order of the universe is already entropy for it tends to maximum... We would not need to do more that feel the energy of our powerful brains to harness it.