Republicans Take The Majority Back In The Senate

a reply to: jimmyx

"I'll need to stock up on popcorn".




How greedy of you.

a reply to: beezzer

Yeah, but that's different, beezzer, because, well, it just is! Bush bad, Bush bad!!!

a reply to: neo96

Its not the end of the world yet.....

But seeing the same two party dominance is disturbing as the USA will continue to spiral downward which is not something I want to see. When bad things happen in the USA bad thing happen in the UK.

UK has started to see the BS and put support behind a third party but that work will be for naught if the USA cock up and go bankrupt or kick off a massive war as the UK will like it or not get dragged down anyway.

Both democrats and republicans are hurting the USA

a reply to: vor78

Did they honestly believe that the Democrats would hold a permanent majority?

Yeah they did.

They actually believed their own hype with the 'GOP is dead'.

Clearly.

The GOP is ALIVE and the Democratic majority in the Senate is DEAD.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Both democrats and republicans are hurting the USA

No disagreement there. I think this election was much more a repudiation of Democrat policies than an endorsement of the GOP. If the Republican party is smart, and unfortunately, they're not, that's how they'd view it as well.

The moral of this story is that America is still generally a centrist nation by its own traditional standards. Both parties have tried to push the pendulum heavily towards their own ideology and have ultimately faced a spectacular electoral rebuke for doing so. It remains to be seen which party is smart enough to realize this first and adapt accordingly.

a reply to: crazyewok

The problem with this country is the politicians.

Get rid of them.

And it will sort itself out.

When people clamour for 'democracy' there can be only two things.

The majority,

The minority.

And people need to wake up to just what democracy is:

MOB RULE.

The mob spoke last night, and gave us the GOP victory.

Before that the mob spoke and gave us the Democrat victory.

Even though when either side is elected.

They still represent ALL of us.

Both sides clearly fail on that respect.

originally posted by: vor78
a reply to: jimmyx

That's so sad. I guess now you know how all those conservatives felt the last several years.

If it makes you feel any better, we conservatives survived a much worse political climate than the one you guys face now. Suck it up, quit whining and learn from your mistakes. At least you have the executive branch that can, and likely will, block anything the GOP Congress passes. For two years, we didn't even have that.

It isn't the end of the world. Some of you guys are acting ridiculous.

from Jan. 2001 to Jan. 2007, the republicans controlled the entire congress and the presidency...maybe you can list all of the accomplishments to help out the "regular joe" with that political dominance?

originally posted by: vor78

originally posted by: crazyewok
Both democrats and republicans are hurting the USA

No disagreement there. I think this election was much more a repudiation of Democrat policies than an endorsement of the GOP. If the Republican party is smart, and unfortunately, they're not, that's how they'd view it as well.

The moral of this story is that America is still generally a centrist nation by its own traditional standards. Both parties have tried to push the pendulum heavily towards their own ideology and have ultimately faced a spectacular electoral rebuke for doing so. It remains to be seen which party is smart enough to realize this first and adapt accordingly.

What I see is the USA needs to decide if its:

A) Free Market like the successful Singapore

or

B)Light socialist like the successful Scandinavia country's.

Right now its nothing but corporate fascism that uses corrupt politicians to do its bidding.

Now I cant see B working in the USA at least not on a federal scale so the USA either should go full free market or just let each state decide.

soon as you guys can work out a stable and workable economic system things will start looking up and you can focus on the social issues.

And that economic policy needs to be set in stone and protected from tampering. In Singapore it seems they employ pretty brutal prison sentences for politicians, banks or corporations that try and tamper with the free market system.

a reply to: jimmyx

Considering that just two posts above yours, I've strongly implied that the GOP leadership is composed of morons, I'm not sure where you think I'm defending them.

My response was to your whining. Get over it. Your side lost this one. But again, its not the end of the world. Political winds shift. Your side lost this one and I'm very happy about that. But I'm not fool enough to think they'll never win again. They will. Yet some of you guys seem to think the Dems had a permanent majority locked up. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

All they need now is a republican president and we can go back to the days of Bush. economic collapse, rights being taken away by "patriot acts", Wall Street bailouts and increased support for the rich and corporations.

originally posted by: damwel
All they need now is a republican president and we can go back to the days of Bush. economic collapse, rights being taken away by "patriot acts", Wall Street bailouts and increased support for the rich and corporations.

The world didn't end then and it won't now.

Get over it.

a reply to: crazyewok

I think the only viable solution is, as you say, allowing the states more freedom to decide their own domestic policies. That will, of course, never happen, as it would reduce the influence of the Washington political class that's the root of the problem in this country. But if the people of the states were given more freedom to determine their own policies, I think you'd eventually see a much less poisonous political atmosphere in this country and a chance for real 'progress' to occur.

originally posted by: damwel
All they need now is a republican president and we can go back to the days of Bush. economic collapse, rights being taken away by "patriot acts", Wall Street bailouts and increased support for the rich and corporations.

But the economic collapse happened when dems controlled the House and Senate.

Hmmm. . . .

a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

Occurs they did, did anybody had any doubts about this?.

a reply to: crazyewok

free market like the successful Singapore?
thehearttruths.com...

26% of their entire population live BELOW the poverty line...truly a successful strategy for the U.S. to follow, right?

originally posted by: damwel
All they need now is a republican president and we can go back to the days of Bush. economic collapse, rights being taken away by "patriot acts", Wall Street bailouts and increased support for the rich and corporations.

quite honestly, we had all that with Obama as well. Let's hope that both parties realize the people are FED UP.

originally posted by: jimmyx
a reply to: crazyewok

free market like the successful Singapore?
thehearttruths.com...

26% of their entire population live BELOW the poverty line...truly a successful strategy for the U.S. to follow, right?

How the hell is that eh ?

After 6 years of 'Hope and change' that was more akin to 'Bullsnip, and blame'.

originally posted by: vor78
a reply to: crazyewok

I think the only viable solution is, as you say, allowing the states more freedom to decide their own domestic policies. That will, of course, never happen, as it would reduce the influence of the Washington political class that's the root of the problem in this country. But if the people of the states were given more freedom to determine their own policies, I think you'd eventually see a much less poisonous political atmosphere in this country and a chance for real 'progress' to occur.

I 100% agree.

a one size fit all economy is also not likely suitable.

I think allowing each state to choose would be the wisest. You likely would get states that are very free-market (Pleasing the free market supporters) and states socialist on the lines of Scandinavia (pleasing those) but I see no reason why they cant get along and complement each other.

But safe guards need put in place so states dont go and screw up and go full corporate fascism/ Soviet communist or just plain out right fail in a Greece like ball of debt.

originally posted by: openminded2011

originally posted by: damwel
All they need now is a republican president and we can go back to the days of Bush. economic collapse, rights being taken away by "patriot acts", Wall Street bailouts and increased support for the rich and corporations.

quite honestly, we had all that with Obama as well. Let's hope that both parties realize the people are FED UP.

bad post

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: muse7
Going to be the same old gridlock but instead Democrats will be blocking all of the anti-abortion bills.

Hope Obama has that Veto stamp ready

That why the USA is doomed over the next 50 years.

Stupid partisan bickering over none issues like Abortion and gay marriage while HUGE issues like that 17 trillion debt and stagnated economy go ignored.....

The Democratic Republic is alive and well.
The proof is, you cannot use the system to create a Messiah image then proceed to ruin the nation expecting nobody to challenge you.
No President wishes to end as a Lame Duck, but Obama's formula sent him there.
With Impeachment looming over his head, the executive power will be as impotent as his unqualified czars have been.