What is acceptable proof of GOD?

I just thought it could be educational to hear from people about where they draw the line between proof of GOD and decption or mental illness. Let's say that he decides to come and convince everyone that he has always been real. What would it take to convince you and how would you discern any signs from illusion or someone calling you ill? With todays technology growing will there ever be irrefutable evidence that you would accept?

a reply to: deadeyedick

Unfortunately, there is no standard of proof that can be good enough for something like this. Even if somehow you could photograph him, it all comes down to belief. For me, I am vastly more skeptical of my own perceptions and intuitions than most people are, otherwise, I'd probably have been lost to some belief system or another a long time ago.

a reply to: deadeyedick

well if god is all powerful i suppose they would know the way to convince me...id imagine its something personal between us where he/she/it could enter my own mind and convince me.....

so until then....

a reply to: deadeyedick
What evidence would be sufficient enough to cause you to abandon your faith?

Bacon !

a reply to: deadeyedick


It Would Have To Be Hearing His Message. If I Heard Him Speak And His Words Range True With Me And Everyone Else And He United All Of Mankind Together Then I Would Believe Him To Be The Almighty.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Nothing... One can not prove God to another person...

the only proof there is... IS experience

IF one is truly looking to find God with all their heart and soul

HE will give that person what they need...

Same as first contact with ET

Public, In your face, visible, touchable, real.

Not in your heart.

In my heart I may believe in Pixies. Doesn't, no matter how hard I try to convince you, make them real.

The big guy descending from the heavens with a complimentary display of angels and pyrotechnics followed by a side serving of miraculously solving world hunger and bringing world peace would seem adequate to me.

Sadly, I have a suspicion that its never going to happen.

originally posted by: deadeyedick
I just thought it could be educational to hear from people about where they draw the line between proof of GOD and decption or mental illness. Let's say that he decides to come and convince everyone that he has always been real. What would it take to convince you and how would you discern any signs from illusion or someone calling you ill? With todays technology growing will there ever be irrefutable evidence that you would accept?

Of course, there is no contemporaneous documentation (ie. historical evidence) proving that Jesus ever lived.

People can establish whatever standard they like to believe that God exists but belief is never fact . Facts are based on testable evidence so testable evidence would be required to prove that God/Jesus exists.

originally posted by: EVOL88
a reply to: deadeyedick


It Would Have To Be Hearing His Message. If I Heard Him Speak And His Words Range True With Me And Everyone Else And He United All Of Mankind Together Then I Would Believe Him To Be The Almighty.

Yeah, but that is happening to a certain degree among a large group of very stupid Americans, and it ain't God doing the talking.

a reply to: deadeyedick
There is no proof I will accept that god exists.
However, I might be willing to accept that an entity exists that is far beyond our ability to comprehend in full. An entity like that will have no problem convincing anyone of its existence, should it choose to make itself known.

I would think that an omnipotent God could find time to drop by and have a cup of coffee and a chat. Maybe we could go out and buy some lottery tickets and pick up chicks.

a reply to: WakeUpBeer
Interesting list...

Verified, specific prophecies that couldn’t have been contrived.

Too ambiguous.

Scientific knowledge in holy books that wasn’t available at the time.

The more we study, the more we are learning our ancestors weren't as ignorant as we once thought. Not a good measure, even in a "holy book."

Miraculous occurrences, especially if brought about through prayer.

I saw some amazing things happen through prayer when I was a xtian. None of them would convince me god did it now. Humans are more capable than most of us can begin to realize we are.

Any direct manifestation of the divine.

Divine is a human concept, and therefore, open to interpretation. Not even close to proof. Also makes me think of Arthur C. Clarke..."Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."

Aliens who believed in the exact same religion.

This would most certainly surprising, but also easily explained.

A genuinely flawless and consistent holy book.

Also ambiguous.

A religion without internal disputes or factions.
A religion whose followers have never committed or taken part in atrocities.
A religion that had a consistent record of winning its jihads and holy wars.

This guy is too easy.

I don't think you can "prove" god exists, that is what faith is for.

I have faith in Gods existence but i cannot prove it, that is why i don't try to convince people who do not have faith of Gods existence.

But i think the OP is asking how could God prove his existence without people thinking that there was some kind of mental illness at play.

Quite simply I would say a huge miracle, a event that cannot be explained by science but has been clearly made possible by some kind of supernatural being, a God, if you will.

What that miracle would be i dont know.

a reply to: deadeyedick

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originally posted by: canucks555
In my heart I may believe in Pixies. Doesn't, no matter how hard I try to convince you, make them real.

I believe in the tooth fairy from first hand experience, yet I can't really make others believe me unless they see it themselves. Like you are saying, only they can make it real if they want it to.

What's always bothered me is that among the faithful, there's no questioning of the lack of the type of in your face miracles present in the bible.

Evidence. Just one, single shred of credible, scientifically testable evidence would take god from highly improbable to plausible.

a reply to: deadeyedick

Acceptable proof would be very easy to believe yet extremely difficult to witness. It would be as simple as seeing a person transmute water into wine. As simple as laying hands on a blind man and curing his disability. As simple as restoring life to a dead man or woman. Parting the sea with the raising of a hand. Simply anything that ancient religious texts claim has been done.

Short of that nothing would convince me of the existence of a specific deity or god. Better yet, I don't need proof. I sense higher powers in this reality and give them their due. The funny thing though is they do not resemble the petty, spiteful, destructive, vengeful personalities of the deities or god that many major religions insist exists.