Nurse Under Ebola Quarantine Criticizes Her Treatment

a reply to: MrLimpet

This just makes me think of a little kid who is being a brat and defying an adult just to be difficult. The way I see this woman is like she's crossing her arms across her chest and sticking her nose in the air and saying in a snotty voice, "I don't wanna do it and I don't have to do it if I don't WANNAAAAAA!" Then adding a "hmph" at the end of it!

a reply to: Ellie Sagan

The Daily Mail has an article about her too:

The nurse who was quarantined at a New Jersey hospital despite exhibiting no Ebola symptoms after arriving from West Africa, won't follow the quarantine imposed by Maine officials, her attorney said on Tuesday night. Kaci Hickox insists that she is not under quarantine and has said she is seeking time to decompress at an undisclosed location in the state. 'Going forward she does not intend to abide by the quarantine imposed by Maine officials because she is not a risk to others,' her attorney Steven Hyman said.

www.dailymail.co.uk... istie-s-treatment-her.html

Her arrogance really bothers me. What makes her so freaking special that the rules JUST DO NOT apply to her? I don't care if she will continue to self-monitor. That's not the point. Some people can be asymptomatic AND be able to infect others.

If she truly believes she poses no danger to the public whatsoever, why does she - as this report indicates - have to go to an undisclosed location? It's not like she's the POTUS.

I hope some enterprising reporter does some investigating and finds out where she's holing up. The people in that state have the right to know her whereabouts due to the nature of this disease.

She has Ebola. That's why they have to forcibly quarantine her. Everyone that gets Ebola wants to run around and use mass transit. Watch. They let her out she's going straight to the airport lol

a reply to: dianajune
Here is the New England Journal of Medicine's position on Ebola and Quarantine:
Ebola and Quarantine

Health care professionals treating patients with this illness have learned that transmission arises from contact with bodily fluids of a person who is symptomatic — that is, has a fever, vomiting, diarrhea, and malaise. We have very strong reason to believe that transmission occurs when the viral load in bodily fluids is high, on the order of millions of virions per microliter. This recognition has led to the dictum that an asymptomatic person is not contagious; field experience in West Africa has shown that conclusion to be valid. Therefore, an asymptomatic health care worker returning from treating patients with Ebola, even if he or she were infected, would not be contagious. Furthermore, we now know that fever precedes the contagious stage, allowing workers who are unknowingly infected to identify themselves before they become a threat to their community. This understanding is based on more than clinical observation: the sensitive blood polymerase-chain-reaction (PCR) test for Ebola is often negative on the day when fever or other symptoms begin and only becomes reliably positive 2 to 3 days after symptom onset. This point is supported by the fact that of the nurses caring for Thomas Eric Duncan, the man who died from Ebola virus disease in Texas in October, only those who cared for him at the end of his life, when the number of virions he was shedding was likely to be very high, became infected. Notably, Duncan's family members who were living in the same household for days as he was at the start of his illness did not become infected.

So rather then fear lest use science and medical practice to determine our coarse of action. Also according to this article we need 10's of thousands more healthcare workers in West Africa to stop this outbreak. If we really want to stop the Ebola cases in the US then we must stop it in West Africa. Let us not make policy based on fear.

Her lawyer is WRONG. Twisting the definition of quarantine.

Sorry to say.

And she is a freaking brat.

a reply to: ~Lucidity
ITA. Her lawyer's argument falls flat--has he forgotten the NY/Ebola stricken physician who tiptoed through the tulips before he tested positive? And the Dallas nurse who self-monitored by flying to Ohio?

Kaci, Registered Narcissist, is a disgrace to every health worker and traveler from W. Africa who has stepped away from society for a short period of time, just to make sure that they don't unknowingly become contagious while, say, bowling, and inadvertently spread Ebola. I applaud those brave souls.

Only yesterday, as Kaci, R.N., was being relocated to Maine, she asked that her privacy be respected. The moment she got to her cabin, she must have realized that she still had time on the fame clock and immediately began to make yet another stink. It's been a while since a private citizen has tried this hard to become a public figure.

CNN is saying that Maine may take legal action--bravo.

a reply to: drwill
Yes, he just totally lost a legal debate on CNN, in my opinion. It will be interesting to see what happens in court.

If I was the governor of Maine, I'd boot her out of the state. Let her be someone else's problem. I kid. Sort of.

Kaci, Registered Narcissist. Eeek. That kind of fits. I think she's a disgrace too (not a secret) and I find the shell game they are playing about CDC rules, DWB guidelines, state law, federal powers just shameful too.

a reply to: ~Lucidity
I agree. I thought the lawyer was out of his depth. The other commentator sounded intelligent and skillfully defended his opinions. The buzz phrases are getting old.

Whoever is inventing them needs fresh, unassailable material.

I have a feeling that the nurse isn't quite ready to relinquish the stage, a place that eats ambitious people alive.

originally posted by: dianajune
a reply to: Ellie Sagan


Her arrogance really bothers me. What makes her so freaking special that the rules JUST DO NOT apply to her? I don't care if she will continue to self-monitor. That's not the point. Some people can be asymptomatic AND be able to infect others.

If she truly believes she poses no danger to the public whatsoever, why does she - as this report indicates - have to go to an undisclosed location? It's not like she's the POTUS.

I hope some enterprising reporter does some investigating and finds out where she's holing up. The people in that state have the right to know her whereabouts due to the nature of this disease.

I concur. I know it is a different disease, but has anyone ever hear of Typhoid Mary?

Mary Mallon (September 23, 1869 – November 11, 1938), better known as Typhoid Mary, was the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the pathogen associated with typhoid fever. She was presumed to have infected 53 people, three of whom died, over the course of her career as a cook.[1] She was twice forcibly isolated by public health authorities and died after a total of nearly three decades in isolation.

Oh geez.

CNN just said the reason the military is quarantining troops is because they can't trust the number of very young troops to monitor themselves.

Are you f*cking kidding me right now?

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is SO insulting. I can't even get over how angry this crap is making me. They're going to need to give me a rabies vaccine soon.

Here's a small bit of info from an article I found which came out yesterday:

A New York Times reporter tweeted a photo of Hickox sleeping on a couch at an undisclosed location in Maine. The tweet included a quote from Hickox’s boyfriend, Ted Wilbur, that said she was getting “finally a bit of well-deserved rest after such a long ordeal.”

and....

Hickox’s plans to return home to Fort Kent changed after she was released on Monday and learned media from across the country had descended on the picturesque town near the Canadian border to await her arrival, Raymond Phinney, the associate dean of student life and development at the University of Maine at Fort Kent, said Tuesday morning. Wilbur, Hickox’s boyfriend, is a nursing student at the school.

furthermore,

University officials announced Monday that if Wilbur had been in direct contact with Hickox since she was released from quarantine in New Jersey, he would not be allowed back on campus until he also had cleared health checks. University officials learned Monday night that Wilbur would not return to campus until after the 21-day incubation period. “Our conversation has been that he will be participating in the 21-day quarantine as well, so he will not be on campus,” Phinney, the associate dean, said in his office at the university. He said the school would have a campus meeting at some point but he did not know when. Students at the university campus said Monday that some classmates were panicked by the possibility that Wilbur might return to campus after being in contact with Hickox, and some vowed to boycott classes if Wilbur did return.

I wonder if she's holed up at her boyfriend's house? That would be a logical place, given that now he too is supposed to observe a quarantine.

Further down in this report it was claimed she would observe the quarantine. She must have changed her mind since then.

I hope the Gov. of Maine doesn't cave. Wanna bet he will get a call from the White House?

www.centralmaine.com...

a reply to: dianajune

Not only the undisclosed location, but I remember reading that she left the hospital quarantine building in NJ in a convoy of vehicles and no one knew which one she was in. I thought that sounded like they were worried about people lashing out at her, so she had to be kind of hidden. Plus, I wonder if it's our taxpayer money that is paying for the multiple vehicle escort and the undisclosed location she's hiding out in. I swear this whole thing seems surreal!

When our self important twit of a nurse needs another job, who will hire her? She believes that she is above any rules that she finds inconvenient. When things get tough, she bails out. She will be a potential liability wherever she goes and every HR department knows it.

That 15 minutes of fame is a two edged sword. Her selfishness may have ended her career as a nurse.

a reply to: pteridine

/tinfoil hat on

But she works for the CDC so everything is going just as planned....


Lil

P.S. If this works much better she'll probably get a promotion heh.