Connecticut declared in state of ‘public health emergency,’ prepares for quarantine

a reply to: douglas5

35,000 Americans die each year from the flu, that's a heck of a lot more people dead than by ebola. Why are we all not freaking out because of the flu?

Still no pictures online of all those people who have died and Africa has more phones than America

I think your biggest worry is that responsibility for treating and dealing with ebola suspects is on a state level not a national level. By having 50 different states and therefore 50 different procedures is a recipe for mistakes and anger.

When you have an international problem the national government deals with it and implements procedures. (Washington) Not the local state.

GuitarPlayer. Have a good think about your post mate.

35,000 Americans die each year from the flu, that's a heck of a lot more people dead than by ebola. Why are we all not freaking out because of the flu?

My take on this action is that the governor doesn't have his head in a dark, stinky place like a lot of other public officials. Measures like this are exactly what is called for when a population is at risk for a highly fatal disease.
Quarantine or isolation does not have to mean that you are stuck into a containment center with other people---it can be as simple as keeping out of the public for the required time period.
What would you have the governor do other than make plans to do what all thinking people have agreed is the best route to gaining control?
If the reports I've seen are accurate, we have only a handful of beds in the US to actually "contain" this disease successfully. That fact was what made me go around with my head on sideways for days after the first patient was brought to the US. Watching what was supposed to be the patient being transferred just made my poor head spin and made me wonder if that person were even sick with the disease....
My question is not why the Conn. gov did this but why the Texas gov hasn't done the same? All the plans and protocols are there for contagious disease outbreaks but nobody seems to be ready to step up and put them in place.

a reply to: guitarplayer

influenza spreads around the world in seasonal epidemics, resulting in about three to five million yearly cases of severe illness and about 250,000 to 500,000 yearly deaths,[18] rising to millions in some pandemic years. In the 20th century three influenza pandemics occurred, each caused by the appearance of a new strain of the virus in humans, and killed tens of millions of people.

en.wikipedia.org...

some put it even higher Death rate extrapolations for USA for Flu: 63,729 per year, www.rightdiagnosis.com...

It affects 10-15% of the UK population, causing around 12,000 deaths every year." 29,000 in 1989/90.



not a lot heard about that

originally posted by: ispyed
I think your biggest worry is that responsibility for treating and dealing with ebola suspects is on a state level not a national level. By having 50 different states and therefore 50 different procedures is a recipe for mistakes and anger.

When you have an international problem the national government deals with it and implements procedures. (Washington) Not the local state.

GuitarPlayer. Have a good think about your post mate.

35,000 Americans die each year from the flu, that's a heck of a lot more people dead than by ebola. Why are we all not freaking out because of the flu?

It's just drive by doom porn.

Life as usual here in central CT,

a reply to: douglas5

Yep. And God forbid Ebola mutates again, but this time, it spreads like the flu.
This is a very serious situation because it mutates so often and has been known to spread through the air in close quarters already.
The more it spreads from person to person, the more the virus learns about it's hosts and when it learns, it mutates.

originally posted by: boymonkey74
a reply to: CoherentlyConfused

Of course don't ignore it but western medicine has the structure in place to contain it, we have better sanitation better doctors and everything.
Blimey ATS remember bird flu? swine flu? you guys ignored all that but think ebola is the one to do us in.
Not gonna happen.

Bird flu is not passed from person to person.

Many of us here at ATS claimed that swine flu was nothing more than a scare tactic.

Ebola on the other hand is no joke. I am not worried about Ebola myself.... I am worried at the reactions to it which is clearly highlighted by this article.

Can you honestly say that the response from the local government in Connecticut to an outbreak in an entirely different Continent does not alarm you just a bit?

originally posted by: sickofitall2012
a reply to: douglas5

Yep. And God forbid Ebola mutates again, but this time, it spreads like the flu.
This is a very serious situation because it mutates so often and has been known to spread through the air in close quarters already.
The more it spreads from person to person, the more the virus learns about it's hosts and when it learns, it mutates.

it has been claimed that this strain of Ebola has mutated over 400 times now. Yet Ebola, which is a huge virus that is large enough to show up in fossil records, has not mutated in over 50,000 years. If this new strain really is mutating THAT MUCH, it came from a lab and was an un stable beta version that has yet to settle out and become a consistent strain. In other words, THEY MADE THIS VIRUS and released it on purpose.

www.jimstonefreelance.com...

i would love to know the truth to all this maybe someone at ATS can tell us the truth of it all

a reply to: douglas5
I did my graduate work on Ebola. I am very familiar with all aspects of all the strains of Ebola.

a reply to: sickofitall2012

Would you take the jab if it has mutated so much ? and what do you think about the lack of photos of people with it

a reply to: douglas5


I'm in CT and as of yet no craziness has happened. Probably just a precaution (And a way to fast track some FEMA $$$ our state's way). If I was fearful, I'd say we should be concerned about the terrorist folks taking a few dozen Ebola infected from Africa, loading them up on the supposed dozen or so missing Libyan jetliners, flying to the Eastern seaboard spread out evenly, getting shot down over our Eastern seaboard, spreading the Ebola, having it mix with the Entero thingy, mutating to become airborne all the while they sneak a few more through our very porous southern border.

I'm aware the above is in the running for longest run on sentence ever, but I'm tired and lazy. I'm also aware the above is probably just fear mongering. But what do I know? (Certainly not how to write/type correctly, that's for sure.)

a reply to: douglas5

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if this were true. Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman - who left Congress in January 2013 - was always more than happy to push the more extreme bills Obama wanted rammed thru. Like the infamous Internet Kill-Switch:

theweek.com...
(Feb. 2011) SENATOR LIEBERMAN REINTRODUCES OBAMA'S DESIRED "INTERNET KILL SWITCH" BILL
"A bill that would hand President Obama the power to similarly shut down the internet in the U.S. without judicial review, may be reintroduced in Congress this year. Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), the bill's co-sponsor, says the ability to control access to the internet would be a vital tool in a "national cyber emergency," such as a targeted virus or hacking attack. But is an internet "kill switch" really an acceptable extension of presidential powers?"

And this 5 year old article even mentions "a targeted virus." We were thinking 'computer virus'. Maybe he really meant a 'human virus.' Hmmmmm.....

The freaking out about everything is getting so bad and embarrassing lately I actually miss the the 2012 hysteria.

originally posted by: seeker1963
a reply to: douglas5

It appears to be true...

Source

They are getting their ducks in a row. This Ebola outbreak is the perfect storm for martial law and the hostile take over of the United States.

May I make a correction? THEY are getting their SITTING DUCKS in a row.

And may the farce be with you. GOT GUNS?

a reply to: MKMoniker

It was freightning reading your post and to realise what powers hang over the population in general , the power to cut of your internet /phone and the power to round people up like sheep and inject them with what ever they think is healthy .

well put i wish i could give you more than a star

a reply to: douglas5

Thanks, Doug!

Team Obama tried relentlessly in his first term to pass an Internet Kill Switch, in the event of an ill-defined "crises", and Lieberman championed them all. But they all got bottled up in committee, and never brought to a vote.

In the end, Obama signed a much more lenient Executive Order, where he could only "kill" the Internet for a small time, like four months.

www.cnet.com...
OBAMA SIGNS ORDER OUTLINING EMERGENCY INTERNET CONTROL

Bad News: Team Obama has spent his second term industriously working on multiple "crises." And now we've got a "scare a month" between ISIL (that we trained) and Ebola (which may really be a weaponized Marburg).

Good News: Most of the implementation of of these "disaster plans" is left up to Homeland Security, who has the brilliant and fair Jeh Johnson now heading it. (While Napalitano is now giving out mega-raises to university presidents in "broke" California.)

Thanks again!

a reply to: WalterKovacs

I hope everything stays nice and quiet in Connecticut Walter for everyone's sake , maybe this is just another test to see how far they can push people till they snap or yet another diversion before the election .

We shall have to wait and see

a reply to: MKMoniker

Obama did seem to lose a lot of high ranking military men in a very short time frame and all the other alphabet agencies are having a equally high turn over of senior staff , maybe they do not like the orders that are being handed down from the top