Dallas, Texas possible Ebola case

a reply to: research100

9/18/14 Infected (from 18th-->assume it was 17th or 18thfor instance,, said good-bye the night before,, wink,wink.)

9/21/14
10/12/14

21 Days.
from 18th to ,,,October 8th.

21 days.Oct.8th,, if the man is still alive,,on October 9th,,that would be good. or at least hopefull.

Oct 8th.

The world can wait a whole 8 days ,,right?

One thing not mentioned,,If u had contact with Mr. X or ground Zero,, take your pick,,is,,
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go too your nearest Dr. and say,, "please,,test me for Ebola,,"i know Mr. X."

thats just common sence right??

They should just have shot him in the head.

Just for going to Liberia, everyone in here complains about our freedoms being taken away, but you give people freedoms and they do things like go to Liberia, I don't care if my nana lived in Liberia she'd get a card with a plane ticket every year on her birthday to escape, but go back... now way and for a vacation... you'd have to be out of your mind, not to mention... THE EBOLA OUTBREAK might put a bit of a check in your travel plans if you had a half brain... what did this shmuck go to Liberia for, a nice weekend of underage prostitutes and to snort gunpowder mixed with blow?

a reply to: criticalhit


Absolutely understand where you're coming from. Blood splatter might not be good though. Maybe placed in a bag and burried in cement.

They are reporting the patient left Liberia on the 19th.
He arrived in Dallas on the 20th.
......Staying with family members
Starting feeling ill on the 24th.
Went to the hospital on the 26th. (informed hospital he had just returned from Liberia)
........He was sent home.
He was taken to the hospital by ambulance on the 28th.

Why did they send him home on the 26th when he was showing symptoms & knowing where he had been?

a reply to: MrLimpet

I guess I won't be celebrating Halloween in Dallas this year

originally posted by: TechniXcality
a reply to: MrLimpet

I guess I won't be celebrating Halloween in Dallas this year

Are you kidding me?

Real zombies maybe... there's a 30 day window here, this could be the best Halloween ever.

a reply to: MrLimpet

Because we are dealing with some of the stupidest people ever, trained horribly and having been put through a school system that preaches that our feelings are sooooo important that even people with contagious Ebola have the right to do whatever they want.

a reply to: MrLimpet why did they send him home? remember the other thread, someone in the usa went to the emergency room and TOLD them he might have ebola....he was sick and came back from one of those countries.....

they made him wait HOURS in the emergency room. others had HIGHER priority than him,thank god, he turned out to test negative....

originally posted by: MrLimpet
They are reporting the patient left Liberia on the 19th.
He arrived in Dallas on the 20th.
......Staying with family members
Starting feeling ill on the 24th.
Went to the hospital on the 26th. (informed hospital he had just returned from Liberia)
........He was sent home.
He was taken to the hospital by ambulance on the 28th.

Why did they send him home on the 26th when he was showing symptoms & knowing where he had been?

pretty crazy. Probably even prior to him really noticing symptoms it could have spread. Gonna make some people think that was intentional if not just what happens sometimes sending home patients with the wrong diagnosis. Now they gotta chart every person and every place he's been. Overall hospitals must need a memo to rethink # seriously because they are underestimating the severity of this.

The person, an adult who was not publicly identified, developed symptoms days after returning to Texas from Liberia and showed no symptoms on the plane, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden said the patient came to the U.S. to visit family and has been hospitalized since the weekend.

So...did he return to Texas or did he come to Texas to visit family?

link

a reply to: MrLimpet

I'm going to make a wild guess and say that the Patients home is in one of the infected countries and came to visit family. If he had been a U.S citizen returning home there would be no confusion.

The free travel, with the exception of checking for fever before a flight out will be a contentious inquiry for our government officials to have to deal with.

a reply to: Witness2008 we are heading into flu season...how will they tell the difference?? this is worrisome..........more likely a mistake will be made......

a reply to: research100
Just jumping in to say that privately owned hospitals in our region frequently do not admit ill patients from the ER. The bottom line seems to be how much money will be lost or made for the hospital. If the patient's symptoms don't tick off the appropriate boxes (meets admission criteria, for example, so the insurance company can't wiggle out of paying), the patient is sent their merry way. (For example, a child had respiratory difficulty, but no elevated temp and no elevated white blood cell count. The child was sent home. The parents returned. No X-ray was performed. Child was sent home. On the third trip to the ER, a foreign object was discovered in the child's trachea. The child was admitted and later died. Huge lawsuit. Yet...nothing ever changes for the hospital administrators. If the child had met insurance criteria, the hospital would have been more than happy to have a cash cow to exploit.

Right now, before the disease gets a foothold outside of Africa, in the gray-time when people aren't panicking and want to believe that what happens in Africa, stays in Africa...it's easy to see how Ebola could race through a community. Insurance companies still rule. Still call the shots. Hospital Stepford-Workers want to bring home a shiny plaque, Administrator of the Year.

I'm not saying that all hospitals and insurance companies are a problem. I'm sure there are great ones.
All it takes is just one infected patient and one ER doc who doesn't want to be called on the carpet. And the world as we know it will change.

a reply to: research100
Unless a quick, accurate, affordable test is available (perhaps it is--I hope so), it will be extremely difficult to make an early diagnosis, even with the influenza test. The patient's history may not include a trip to West Africa, just a quick flight to Dallas, Atlanta, Chicago.

www.cdc.gov...

a reply to: TechniXcality

Certainly a lot of folks headed to Colorado for the end days!

Glad I am already here lol.

a reply to: research100

Good point.

If Ebola has an outbreak that spreads in this country, emergency rooms with inept handling and existing health care policy in that regard may be one of the major reasons behind it. If the CDC is on the ball, hopefully they'll direct new policy such that any people thinking they are sick with it should stay at home and call some hotline. (But probably not 911 unless deathly ill. And if I was a regional health department director, I'd consider it even if the CDC doesn't.) That way EMTs suited to limit exposure would go to their house to do a well being check with later follow-ups. The EMTs would do swabs, take samples, and if somebody is looking bad enough, get them in a pre-prepped ambulance ready to take them. Otherwise make sure people are situated well enough to maintain some level of quarantine until they get the ok. That way you can treat and transfer the potentially infected to hospital care in a way that keeps them clear and isolated from anyone else.

Otherwise with the way of doing things that is typical now, you have somebody that may be getting sick on themselves spreading germs along the emergency room entryway and common waiting areas. The problem with anyone symptomatic is then compounded if their situation has them taking public transportation to get there.

We're still some major steps ahead of most undeveloped countries, but not quite free of serious problems if worse comes to worse. The way some people push their kids to school and workplace policy which is often adverse to sick leave doesn't help any. I'd guess 90% of colds and flu spread here in the U.S. are exactly because of that. Perhaps a major disease which is easily communicable would snap people out of such stupidity.

According to CNN, the ambulance that brought him to the Hospital was used for another two days, before they put it in quarantine. It just takes one unlucky patient in that ambulance to have been infected. You can only spread the virus after you show symptoms, which is between 2 to 21 days.

And if this unlucky person that got it from the ambulance, has had symptoms (a headache maybe), he could have spread it everywhere he went..

You suddenly have a network of infected people you just can't control.

Double post

originally posted by: Witness2008
a reply to: MrLimpet



I'm going to make a wild guess and say that the Patients home is in one of the infected countries and came to visit family. If he had been a U.S citizen returning home there would be no confusion.



The free travel, with the exception of checking for fever before a flight out will be a contentious inquiry for our government officials to have to deal with.

He moved to Dallas from Liberia a week ago. I live here in Dallas and that is what is being reported.

they have a 2nd person they are testing and a list of possible infected a few pages long, now not all will be infected but first 2 people did come in contact with multiple people, 2-21 days without symptoms possible. --- from a nurse in hospital and she is panicked.