Black Triangle UFOs and an Alleged Breakaway Civilization- Discuss

a reply to: BASSPLYR

The bubble collapses behind it moving the "nose" forward (nature, like cats, abhor a vacuum). Silent but deadly!

And even "he who shall..." said they do not travel in space but are used to recon where they go (in atmosphere).

Graphene with no air acts like diamond cutting wheels. Prolly why there are no windows on 'em.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

No i get it. I just wonder how much thrust 14 psi of atmosphere will produce. Even in a vacuum.


My old neighbors poor cat. One time he was gone for the day and i heard the cat caterwailing all day. I tell the owner when he gets home. Find out the cat and the roomba (little autonomus vacuum rover) had managed to get licked in the same tiny bedroom together. Turned out the cat and the roomba had been battling it out together all day.

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I have a couple of other intruiging sources besides voldemort (equally as good) so i have to compare and contrast different narratives on the subject. I wouldnt put spaceflight off the table yet. Vacuum corridors dont explain crazy 90 degree turns and other things that are indicative of inertial mass reduction.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

just because it uses vacuums dont mean they are not strong ones because of the rapid open and closing off them can propel a craft that has reduced its mass within the field to almost zero isnt possible.

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: yuppa

Yeah but how much atmispheric pressure would the collapsing air corridor put on the craft to impel motion? 14 psi at best. I know over a large surface area that adds up and given reduced drag but enough to push anything fast? The higher up it travels the less air to collapse and push it.

What if you could highly compress the air in front using the opposite of the mass reduction field by compressing th e atoms?

originally posted by: BASSPLYR
a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF

I have a couple of other intruiging sources besides voldemort (equally as good) so i have to compare and contrast different narratives on the subject. I wouldnt put spaceflight off the table yet. Vacuum corridors dont explain crazy 90 degree turns and other things that are indicative of inertial mass reduction.

If you figure in the neutral buoyancy factor though, the amount of momentum that could be generated by altering your buoyancy...

Like a submarine pumping out it's ballast and using it's buoyancy to travel instead of simply climbing. The physics are essentially the same, though the fluid medium is different. The vacuum corridor part just makes the journey smoother and faster. As long as you can reduce the density of your craft enough, the rest is just basic pressure differences resolving themselves to equilibrium.

Just to bring a bit of balance whilst we are all busy imagineering atmospheric slipstreaming, mach shielding and the like for secret space access....

Read this interesting article which purports to detail the reality of secret space access during the 80's.

www.airspacemag.com...

Using entirely conventional rocket propelled craft, we witness a tale of simmering resentment between NASA and Airforce personel resulting in hissy fits and dummies being spat.

In our heads, a sleek black triangle exfiltrates a team of sub born special operators into space with their highly classified cargo.

In reality, and I quote from the article:

"Which is not to say that STS-39 didn’t have secrets. One day, according to a member of the crew, another astronaut, Guy Bluford, “went up on the aft flight deck by himself while the rest of us pretended not to notice.” Bluford launched a small classified satellite, purpose still undisclosed."

Props to the BBT op-sec crew though, running an adjacent limited hangout using conventional rockets where well intentioned people "pretending not to notice" facilitates classified launches is sublime.

i just realized something. Edgar fusche is a crank. However, if you ignore the terminology and listen to what hes describing. It soundes like he is describing Forwards work on antigravity from 1962 at Hughes Labs.

The idea wouldnt produce propulsion nor is it anti gravity or inertial reduction. But the idea was to use a giant toroid with a spinning superconducting fluid to create an intense electromagnetic field travelling in the oposite direction as that of earths gravitational field. The hope was that if you had the equivalent energy as the resting mass of the object traveling opposite of the gravitational field it would equal out and cancle gravitys downward force. The toroid was proposed to be very big because at the time due to limitations in superconductors the design required construction on a grande scale.

In the end it would just make the vehicle essentially float or hover. It would still require a separate propulsion system.

Sounds like the "tr3b" was a early attempt (perhsps failure? Or half measure) at alternatives to antigravity than the matched impedance approach.

Whats interesting is once you get the vehicle off the tarmac and hovering you could then switch modes and through changing the guage of the poynting vectors of the bose einstine condensate (through time variance? ) to be 0 to that of the EM waveform of the Vacuum changing the value of C and reducing inertial mass and through that, via equivallence principles, gravity. Just like i mentioned in my previous posts. Then you just manipulate the shape and strength of the field to create a thermal radiation gradient from the heat bath of the vacuum. (The vacuum density gradients i previously mentioned)

Maybe use that plasma em resonant cavity i talked about to dig in to and couple with the virtual EM leptons in the vacuum giving you more "bang or traction" or simply do the quantum optical squeezing trick instead.

Either way that plasma is going to be a non linear medium and frequencies not resonant will bleed through the plasma and be changed into other EM frequencies. That can be both usefull (if you want to broadcast a signal to do something specific i wont go into but deals with "visual stealth and cloaking " and also a potential detriment if you dont control and finess the frequencies being used inside the plasma resonator cavity. Detriment because it means the triangles are noisy as hell at certain em frequencies if you know which ones to listen for. I bet much of the research development with these triangles goes into making the superconductors smaller and less cumbersom (ning li's work?) lighter also. Maybe look at ways to emulate bose einstien condensates using jaynes -cummings optical lattices. And also in refining the signals mixing process (for the quantum squeezing-proposed methos "b") and or eliminating the signal bleed due to the (nlm) so that you cant electronically listen for it. Making it more usefull for isr functions. Finally research probably went into ways to reduce radar from screwing up the impedance matching and resonant cavities voodoo. (You know so you dont have another roswell) personally id look into developing a rig thst was dynamuc so that the inconing radar signal could be used as noise to help fuel the noise gain on the signals mixing by exploiting heisenbergs uncertainty principles. Also another good reason for the military to develop my option "b" make it so radar instead of bringing down ufos actually helps fuel it.

Finally ill leave you with this thought. Is the goal of anti gravity and mass reduction really for propulsion or for something else? Think about it. You can be invisible to rafar all you want hut things such as gravametric sensors do exist and and sophisticated enough to detect the mass of a radar stealthy or cloaked aircraft. If you really, really want to be stealthy you will also need to mask or reduce your masses signature so they cant pick you up with gravametric sensors. This has implications going beyond triangles. Look at the b2 charged leading wing edge and opposite xharged exhaust. This creates a dipole for matching impedance with long wavelength radar signals (now being brought back into use to thwart current stealth technologies that exploit short radar wavelengths -metamatrial skins and shaping take care of that.) but perhaps also to reduce the mass signature of the aircraft to thwart smarter enemies with the knowhow and money to build gravametric "radars" then to take it one step further make the onboard radar system a phase conjugate microwave beam using a supercooled non linear medium to delay the probe beam meanwhile the signal beam magically appears at the targ-....you know what nevermind.

[Researchers] have made a switchable metamaterial that doesn't use metal at all. "What we've done now is structure the phase-change material itself," MacDonald said. "We have created what is known as an all-dielectric metamaterial, with the added benefit of GST's nonvolatile phase-switching behavior."

Pulses of laser light can change the structure of GST between a random, amorphous one and a crystalline one. For GST, this behavior is nonvolatile, which means it will stay in a particular state until another pulse switches it back.

Phys.org, Aug 2, 2016 - New metamaterials can change properties with a flick of a light-switch.

They use lasers to switch states but the article states the can also use electric fields. Just another nice little read to make one wonder. They are etching the metamateial in rows but imagine if they were something like spheres maybe of various sizes. If only there was some conductive material that was flat and could take a coating of this stuff?? Hum...

a reply to: TEOTWAWKIAIFF
You mean like little dielectric Metamaterial spheres of various sizes each tuned to be double negative refraction indexes at various wavelength envelopes to cover a wide swath of radar bands stacked up like a composit skin?

Or to function as non linear mediums to convert various EM from infra red to optical to even microwave wavelengths into other less compromising wavelengths or even electrical power?

So that the more radar and sensors you hit her with the more stealthy she becomes?

a reply to: BASSPLYR

Rectennas are your friend! Unless you're Eric Cartman (see previous post with South Park photo!)

Like how you think one more step... like a good engineer would. Always asking, "How can we do that better?" The other questions I ask are: How can we do that easier? Does this need to be faster? and, How would that work?

Even with the tech we do not know about. May complain about having to learn a new discipline but hey, at the end of the day it is all good. All that means is you learn to ask meaningful questions. Then comes figuring out how it all fits together. May even not be that far off the mark if you are lucky (and if you speculate on things like dragons and actually make one they would never say, "Stop!" because that would mean they made a dragon too, right?)

Ive been thinking.... "A tro" mentions 2036 as a key year. So did JOHN TITOR. COincidence? at first yeah you could say that but...something has began to nag me. WHy have computers started to move to 64 bit instead of 32 bit? Doing so Avoids the Overflow event that Titor mentions in 2038,but it kicks it down the road

Could the RK's leaving in 2036 have to do with avoiding the Overflow event? IF the government is still using the 32 bit machines. It seems that CERN has been up to covert experiments dealing with time manipulation to avoid this overflow event.

CERN claims they havent created any black holes but iS that really the truth? I theorize they have already. Creating black holes would easily be used to travel time but only as far as messages go. Living creatures would most certainly die.

Maybe the black triangles are a offshoot of CERNs experiments as well. Interesting thught that If we did alter time we jump to that amended timeline and memories change accordingly. Would explain the Mandela effect.

originally posted by: humanoidlord

 

 

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Booooo!!! we got a hater over here!!!

a reply to: BASSPLYR

serously its impossible to believe this theres no evidence and too many holes

a reply to: humanoidlord

Believe what part?

I can tell you the triangles do exist. I think theyre military.

a reply to: BASSPLYR

I don't think they are all military. Some might be part of the larger picture. Anyways I popped in here to add something odd that I recently learned, but sadly only have a weird second hand (well the guy telling it to was claiming to be a person there) tale to tell.


I was visiting my grandfather recently and we went to see an old friend of his. The guy wasn't doing so well (geesh he's in his upper 90's) He worked for people "back then". Anyways he claimed that he was one of the official witnesses to the whole Otis Carr saucer event, and was the guy responsible for having all of the work commandeered. He said, and I'll quote this "Most of the bright people are up there watching us like ants" Then he grabbed me and repeated that, then added watch for the stars at night that don't move like the rest.


Seemed like the rabbling's of an old man, but my grandfather said he used to work at a University doing something or other. Thought I'd just pop in here and give up this anecdote on what happened.

a reply to: Guyfriday

Excellent post. I believe he was telling you the truth.

There are several vehicles that appear like stars flying around up there. One even looks like a bright green meteor. All military or govt issue.

I agree though that theres probably a few that arent and are part of the bigger picture.

I like your posting style. Feel free to pop into this thread as you please.

This just in ...A SHOOT DOWN of a triangle by an energy beam, it LOOKS like a shield built up energy before penetration,if that is real.

www.spacedaily.com...