I just voted YES for independance

Of course, as i am now. Though i would like out of the union.a reply to: grainofsand

a reply to: michael1888

Michael, I'm just back from putting an x firmly in the yes box! This has been a long time coming, and I felt so proud today to be taking a risk for what I believe is right for all of us here, not just me.

For people like you and me who live a stones throw from Trident, this vote is crucial in doing the very best we can for our children and their children after them.

Come on Scotland, we can do this!

a reply to: michael1888

i've got no views either way

but i'd be interested to know why you think politics in scotland won't be dominated by the interests of big business

it seems a common problem all over the world and from what i can see alex salmond is no different from the rest of the political class:

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where are you going to get honest, straightforward politicians with integrity from?

and i also don't understand why scottish nationalists want to stay in europe - i can understand them not wanting to be told what to do by westminster - but why doesn't the same sentiment extend to brussels?

best of luck to scotland either way - it's my dream to retire there - lovely place and lovely people in my experience

Difference being.... if we are lied to or cheated we can vote them out! At the moment... we cant! We want the big business here not hundreds of miles away. Sorry about the ! Im not shouting ○/ just expressing ha. We arent voting for Salmond today, simply yes to independence .a reply to: aynock

a reply to: michael1888

but how does it help getting rid of one lot of bent politicians for another lot of bent politicians - all in the pockets of the same people?

i'm very sceptical of the 'you can vote them out' line - i remember new labour

Its risky business but were Scottish. We have hope, honestly i dont know many No people near me. And politicians are politicians but! They will be HERE face to face not ..again.. hundreds of miles away a reply to: aynock

Wishing you all the best over there.

While i myself am not a Scot, my ancestral roots do find their place in your lands. I firmly stand in support of Scottish independence, and hope that independence is the result.

I've just put an X next to YES in Edinburgh this morning, its like being a kid at christmas it's been a long time since theres been so much excitement in the air, everywhere you go in Scotland right now is buzzing!! Im planning on heading down the royal mile tonight with some friends to soak up the atmosphere outside parliament while we await the results It really has been something we've been talking about for years, while out for dinner with a mate the other night he said he remembered me talking about the need for scottish independence at school over a decade ago before Alex Salmond had even moved north from westminster! This is a vote for Scotland to really show the world how to create change without a single shot being fired! Soar Alba

a reply to: aynock

Hi aynock,

I hope you come to retire here, you'll love it and be very welcome. We're not voting for the SNP or Salmond today, just whether or not we want Scotland to be independent of the UK. For the vast majority of people (well, that I know) we're not voting to get away from our Welsh, Irish and English neighbours but to get away from the drain that is Westminister who really, really could not give a # about the Scots. I could say the same about the Welsh, the Northern Irish and large parts of England too, but it's our day to vote. I hope theirs comes soon. Anyway, not all voters want to be part of Europe - we're not voting for that, we were only allowed one question on the ballot paper (thanks David Cameron) which was 'Should Scotland Be an Independent Country'.

Scotland is by nature a socialist country, with socialist values, and most of us would like to see a return to that. None of us voted for the Tories here, and yet that's what we got. We want to be heard, and we have to believe in democracy and give this a go. Yes, I believe we can vote out unhealthy governments if they arise in Scotland - they will certainly be much closer and easier to keep an eye on than they are right now.

a reply to: michael1888

it's 463 miles from edinburgh to brussels

but like you say, you've got hope and enthusiasm - if it does go your way at least you've got a chance to do something different

originally posted by: beansidhe
a reply to: aynock

Hi aynock,

I hope you come to retire here, you'll love it and be very welcome.

thanks - just a bit worried that the independence thing might scupper my retirement plans - and that i might have to fork out for a passport next time i'm visiting

a genuine socialist government would certainly get my vote though - i've just grown cynical over the years

Good for you,whatever the outcome it will be close so accept the results with dignity

Im English with Irish roots and too be honest don't mind what way it goes,if you stayed in the United Kingdom you would have the best trained army in the world shoulder to shoulder with you,still be in NATO and the EU and a voice on the world stage

I can understand your wishes for an independent country and respect your decision to vote that way

An independent Scotland will work,there may be a lot of pain over the years if companies move and shipbuilding relocates to Portsmouth for navy work but sometimes there is no pain without gain

I'm still not sure about the being rich for the oil equation thrown out by so many,but would happily be proved wrong if the sums and amounts add up and Scotland prospers and becomes a role model for other countries in the future

We will see

Yes or No,make your voice heard

My view as a born and raised Londoner with many ties to Scotland.

The facts are that regardless of the result, be it a no or a yes, the future of the union of England, Scotland, Wales & Northern Ireland will have changed dramatically as of the time of the result.

I believe we are headed for a more federal system. I personally believe that we should federalize England in order to foster competition and specialization between the regions.
Also, if one considers that Scotland & Wales combined have a smaller population than London, is it not fair that London is allowed to keep more of the taxes we pay here?
London receives far less tax than it generates and hence we have many of the most extremely deprived and unequal localities in the UK.
The current arrangement will change and rightly so.

I also dislike the way in which many YES campaigners have stirred up nationalism. Nationalism is VERY hard to put back in the box once you've let it out.

With regard to the final result. I believe that a NO vote is more likely than not, I cite as my evidence the fact that Betfair are paying out already on NO bets.

Betfair pay out on NO

And Bookmakers ALWAYS have the most accurate results, as they carry out many internal polls and have a far better grasp on the real odds all factors considered. It is how they make money after-all!

Anyway, my point is that regardless of the outcome we should be very proud of the fact that we had the cojones to let Scotland vote, and we will accept the result whatever it may be.

This is a proud day for the nation in which parliamentary democracy began!


I do have to say though, surely the idea of a currency union in which Scottish budgets would have to be approved by the BoE is less independence than you have now?

Viva the British people!

Up until this morning...

i was firmly against the Yes Vote...

today... a moment of clarity came over me... i realised i Hate the current government and corruption in Westminster, and the only tiny chance of changing that would be a Yes vote....

I am going to Vote Yes right now

I voted no

I pray we are the silent majority but a fear we will lose to the yes voters.

There are good arguments on both sides, the referendum is already decided really at this stage so the arguments about yes and no are now pointless.

What really matters now is that Yes or no Scotland unites and moves on accepting the decision of the people.

a reply to: rusblued9217

I would cut London and the surrounding Home Counties out of England and then tow it into the middle of the Atlantic and leave it there.

The rUK could then quietly get on with turning this nation and Union into something we could be proud of and which other nations would aspire to be.

a reply to: michael1888
I'm from Yorkshire (England for our non UK readers) and I voted Yes to get rid of the clowns in Westminster that bow to the fat cats that evade taxes, cut fricking everything except their own income (which they increase more than inflation).

a reply to: OtherSideOfTheCoin


11.pm watching News Night .... Yougov poll has stated he is 99% sure the

vote is coming out at 54% NO and 46% YES

Ahhh your watchin the BBC, im remaining positive, the doors only closed 1 hour ago.
a reply to: eletheia