I've. Had. It. With. Feminism. (Part One - The Tattoo)

a reply to: Glencairn

I can't help but wonder if those women you mentioned are envious. You are (IMO) right to be proud of your husband and all the tender care he dotes on you!

originally posted by: KaDeCo
a reply to: Glencairn

I can't help but wonder if those women you mentioned are envious. You are (IMO) right to be proud of your husband and all the tender care he dotes on you!

If they're not envious, they should be!

Real feminism isn't about tattoos and women being forced in the male dominated workplace and acting like men. That is something else, ignorance.

Real feminism is realising that men and women are different and respecting those differences, making allowances in the society for them instead of pigeon holing people into housewife / worker roles.

Traditionally women worked and were mothers and now being forced to make choices and limiting our real parenting quality time in a very synthetic society where things evolve around work and money needs reevaluating to allow for proper family life and good ethics.

I am a woman and mother and I am educated, I have a lot of knowledge and have a lot to offer the workplace and society, allow me my quality family time, work life and personal development. Respect me at least as much as you would a man. Comprehend the things women have to face in society today and make it a better place for women, recognising that they are women instead of feeling the need for acting like men. Women aren't sexual objects of little value so stop portraying them as such and stop perpetuating worthlessness in young women.

Feminism is about respect and appropriate human interaction. It has swayed too much in the way of men holding the shackles and women being subservient and it has affected society and resulted in men being too concerned for power and greed, it has caused warmongering and the collapse of civilizations. It has to be rectified for the healing of humanity. Female energy is required for balancing our societies, the survival of humanity could depend on it.

a reply to: Glencairn

I don't feel that I'm being patronized or infantilized when my husband does considerate things for me any more than he feels patronized when I do nice things for him.

People that judge that harshly based on a tiny snapshot of your life and relationship are far more guilty of being patronizing and attempting to infantilize you.

Perhaps I'm oblivious to the things being discussed regarding chivalry in my personal life. I don't think I've ever had a negative reaction for opening a door or anything of the sort.

This whole thing is just making me adore my girlfriend even more. I love that we have such a great partnership and don't ever worry about this kind of nonsense. She knows I respect her and support her fully, and I know she feels the same. Sappy Domo is in love. Sorry Kanga.

You came across a bunch of idiots, not feminists. Feminists seek to remove stereotypes, traditional roles, laws etc... that oppress women and recognize that those things can also hurt men... they don't seek to harm men or demonize them, nor do they themselves turn around and do the same thing they claim men to do to women by stating what they can and can't do with their lives.

a reply to: Domo1

Domo, I agree in that it seems much more patronizing when someone will judge an act of consideration from my husband as treating me like an object when they see just a tiny little bit of our lives. Your relationship with your girlfriend sounds healthy. It is good to respect and support each other fully, that's how it should be. It isn't sappy at all. I see the radical feminism when we hang out with my sister-in-law and her friends. Not from my sis-in-law, but she has a whole lot of militant feminist friends.

The chivalry is just what I call it, though maybe not exactly what chivalry really was all about. It is doing considerate things for me. Holding doors, or my coat, pulling my chair out for me, like Kanga's husband, mine has helped me when I've wanted to color my hair. He does a million simple little things like knowing that I am a makeup (and lip gloss in particular) junkie and noticing when I see a lip gloss or bit of makeup that I like and showing up home from work with the particular item that I was drooling over in the exact shade that I wanted. Looking at a rack of lip glosses in 80 different shades of pink and knowing just which one I liked the best. This just happened again the other day. I was running low on my favorite lip gloss and he saw that it was about out when I used it recently and came home from work with a new one for me. Or remembering a sweater that I said I liked and wandering the women's clothing section and finding it and getting it - in the right size - for me.

We've been married for almost 17 years (it will be 17 the beginning of October) and he still tells me every single day that he loves me. When he calls home, when hanging up he always says "I love you" before I have a chance to say it first. Most of it is a bunch of silly little stuff that my sis-in-law's friends claim to show that he treats me like a pet, but they are things that tell me how much he loves me.

If being a feminist means that I have to tell my hubs that he can't do sweet things like this for me, why would I want to be one? If being one means that my choice to be a housewife to make life better for my husband and daughter sets women back decades, how can they justify the claim? I think that KaDeCo and Kanga both summed it up so much better than I can and I agree with them entirely.

Take care,
Cindi

a reply to: KaDeCo

Call me a conspiracy theorist ( what on ATS nah surely not..), but has anyone stopped to think that life was better and families where happier/made more sense when one partner(/family member(s)) stayed home and raised the kids ( does not have to be the woman). But guess what we are now 100% more productive and in no small part thanks to feminism; now the ptb have corrected our work patterns there is no need for feminism anymore, lets ridicule it with silly books about female only planets and disinfo about sex not being pleasurable...

Then we can through popular media further degrade any connections humans feel between each other by making everyone objectified through our natural urges towards sex.

The further away ( emotionally and physically) we exist from our family and friends , the easier we are to control and the more our instinct to protect members of our "group" diminishes.

Look out for number one, dress provocatively, that will get you where/more of what you want! Have mindless sex with strangers, follow the lead of the pornstars you have been spoon fed on growing up, soulless, cold, doting. Innocence something to be explored between two loving partners : gone; connections not formed as intensely . Work force : no family life; workaholic never comes home: more productive; emotionally baron : has materialistic goals; they lead to sex... instinct...

I'm slowly coming to the conclusion that feminism is a hate group.

I don’t think I would view someone with “feminist” tattooed on their arm much more favorably than someone with 1488 (a common white supremest tattoo) tattooed on their arm.

a reply to: KaDeCo

YESSSS!!

originally posted by: Domo1
a reply to: Kangaruex4Ewe

You'll always be my only internet crush Domo.

Ours is a beautiful love.

You should go google SJW tumblr. It will blow your mind. I read one the other day where someone said if they had children that were "cis" they would kill them. Cis meaning identifying as the gender you're born with. Just bizarre.

It truly is.

I went and I saw and I can not unsee....

There is something wrong with those people. Seriously. As if there isn't enough wrong in the world, we have folks going off the deep end trying to make things wrong that aren't. I don't understand it and I don't think I really want to.

originally posted by: Domo1
Sorry Kanga.

I understand. If it wasn't your girlfriend.... It was my husband.

Modern feminism is a mutation that has been allowed to deform and grow grotesque because it is protected and not allowed to be put in check or exposed for what it truly is. Which is a hate movement.

The pendulum always swings too far in the other direction, doesn't it?

I can think of several examples where a movement was very beneficial to a specific group, but over time, has been twisted and bastardized into some kind of monster. Give someone an inch, they'll take a mile, I guess.

I agree with your rant, but the whole thing makes me sad because it gives the original feminist movement (which was a very much needed and successful movement) a bad name. There are women in other countries/cultures who are sorely in need of the "old school" feminist movement, but because of this current feminist craziness, I'm not sure if these women will ever get the movement they really need.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
The pendulum always swings too far in the other direction, doesn't it?

I can think of several examples where a movement was very beneficial to a specific group, but over time, has been twisted and bastardized into some kind of monster. Give someone an inch, they'll take a mile, I guess.

I agree with your rant, but the whole thing makes me sad because it gives the original feminist movement (which was a very much needed and successful movement) a bad name. There are women in other countries/cultures who are sorely in need of the "old school" feminist movement, but because of this current feminist craziness, I'm not sure if these women will ever get the movement they really need.

No thanks .. between pc and feminism the west is tearing itself apart .. you can keep that rubbish over there .. already enough damage done over here because people ate too much western #.

a reply to: Expat888

I'm sure Iraqi men totally agree with you. We wouldn't want women thinking they have a right to not be burned alive or have acid thrown on them, or just be shot in the head simply because they didn't "obey" their men.

www.amnesty.org...

I won't engage with you any further, because you have a chip on your shoulder due to picking the wrong women in your life. You have only yourself to blame for that.

Ya I am getting real tired of all this gender war crapola, I keep getting idiotic and biased articles on my facebook news feed and I have also had it. It's like people are shoving this stuff down peoples throats much like religion> It's not just feminists to, I hate these articles that keep saying stuff like "3 reasons why women don't date nice guys". Why can't we just live and let live.

a reply to: kaylaluv
Solve the domestic abuse by both sexes in your own countries before seeking to impose your will upon others .. as to iraq thats in the middle east not asia .. you might want to brush up on your geography as well ..

a reply to: KaDeCo
Bravo!!!

originally posted by: Kangaruex4Ewe
... after you have attacked him like a 100 lb. feral hamster.

haaaaaaaaaaaahahahaha. Sorry, this was great.

originally posted by: kaylaluv
There are women in other countries/cultures who are sorely in need of the "old school" feminist movement, but because of this current feminist craziness, I'm not sure if these women will ever get the movement they really need.

I think feminism in a lot of ways was a failure even old school feminism to a degree, I hope these countries somthing better.

Shame on you!

Here I sit, at my desk getting ready to work, and now I can't even *think* because I'm scared.

You see, I'm male. And I try to be nice to people (especially women...I'll admit it, I'm gender-biased...) I even said "Hi" to a woman the other day.

And now. Any minute now. The cops - F*ing SWAT - are gonna come busting the door down and I'm going to be hauled away for rape!

Not just rape - serial rape! Oh, $#IT - I have 4 kids! That's GENETIC EVIDENCE of my misdeeds. No contest evidence of my guilt!

I can't think. I can't do my job. I'm gonna lose my house.

I was better off not knowing.

(I really hope everybody reading gets that I'm NOT serious...and if you didn't get that until now...?)