Has anyone experienced a medical procedure while abducted?

The long and short of this is, get very very tired of people going round in circles on this topic, when all it takes is attempting to greet and meet the wake up team yourselves. Anyone writing on ufology has some interest in this so they should already have tried and I don't believe that doing this once or once a day for a week, wouldn't have most of them in some degree of contact. And these kind of threads would be non issues. But year after year they never stop.

a reply to: Unity_99

Thanks for your post Unity!

Have you had any medical procedures during an ET related experience?

a reply to: mackey88

Yes, but it takes too long to get into it. Was going to say wasn't awake for the medical parts, just aware of what was happening. But that wasn't true and a different experiences came to mind where there was no pain, but blood matted my hair and ran down into my ear and face, and reached up and felt it before something jolted, everything was cleaned up and my arm was too heavy to move much. Was still not paralyzed but nearly, it was like being in an altered state while communication was occurring, that one was a implant removal. And felt better afterwards. Another was related to gynecological with a daughter being created I was told. And was aware of this long procedure that took hours. I was more alert for this one, perhaps because it wasn't brain related and had a not so appreciated hormone raising event where this man thought he could mess with me, and I was aware it was a program, and spent my time telling them mentally over and over that Love does not do this to people. And that they're not grown up Love yet. The man finally told me in a very dry telepathic voice, cold hear him, voice timber and all. That humans were like insects to them. Which got a rise out of me and also more or less told him to move along then. To which he responded with very dry humor. That some people could happily spend and entire life time studying insects.

I spent a great deal of time in meditation and asking for help from Archangels and my Higher Self, of Course God and Christ. I had some intervention. And being kind, made it either disappear or all go underground.

But positive communication and greeting occurs and sensing the craft still occurs and I don't want anything else. Having inner greeting with energy turned up, I cannot even explain this but pure joy and happiness and recognition.

Now that couple that created a child, thats something since childhood and as an example, they're rather cool and scientific, wear blue uniforms, and need to be reminded what Love is. I have suspected it went underground due to my awareness, certain groups don't take advantage of you and put you to sleep and you don't wake up with wounds or scoop marks, didn't with those ones. And you don't feel pain. But have a feeling they don't want to be told to turn their love up more.

Unless they're checking up on you for your health, medical is related to a pirate taking dna. Its not something anyone would ever want to remember or be taken for. And the one time when I was offered a choice, this was not the couple in blue, but was moon based greys. While what connected telepathically to me prior to the abduction, felt very gentle and I thought it was a female grey, probably she was a bot. It wasn't pleasant. I knew all day that we were on the list that night. They sort of filled me in. And tried not to go to bed. Then had covers move and hair stand on end and this very gentle grey met my mind and told me I had a choice, but that most humans found this traumatic. While this being conveyed I strongly shrank into my blankets and clutched my pillow and showed a strong image of me climbing into my pillow and hiding. Sleep fell swiftly.

My son had missing time that night while he was up. Waited for a late night show, was going to watch it and the room spun for him, then he was facing the game tv and the game console and when he turned back to the tv, it was an hour later. That was his second significant time lapse.. They had what looked like a needle mark in the same spot, 3 of them. I had a huge chunk out of my foot and a purple mark and then this huge red burning under my arm akin to radiation burn. Someone suggested to me that maybe they had actually cured me for cancer. I don't know but I'm very happy that memory is gone. But I do have some memory leaks. Remember this small craft joining up to a very large mishapen station in space, or a deep space vessel. What I mean is, it was huge and flat and had wings added to it, as if later. And my son was in a kind of dentists chair with something on hard wired into his head. And I handed in a report to a tall man. I felt that was Rigel, either the man's name or where they came from. A friend from Georgia who woke with wounds and who I was writing to trying to nudge his memories and we shared alot. He also had missing time and burns that night. And was annoyed that I didn't stay awake and I explained, sorry, primal fear is a big item to deal with. Also, these were his DNA pirates, not mine. This was connected to him, not our family and I knew that. That is not my group.

Among the abductee community,episodes like you had with the water are referred to as "high strangeness" and it can take many many forms.Things that simply are just unexplainable through any logical conventional means.It may often seem paranormal in nature,because of how weird and inexplicable these occurences are.a reply to: mackey88

a reply to: Raxoxane

Thanks for your reply Raxoxane.

In regards to "high strangeness"... The water on my computer, keeps me awake at night. How do I explain it? I can't. I have witnesses that saw the water... A week or two before the tree next door split in half. A lot of general weirdness. The scoop mark in my leg, etc etc...

That's a great way of explaining it Raxoxane "high strangeness". The only way I can explain some of this stuff is it seems to me it is "medical" in nature. That's why I would love to hear other peoples experiences. Thanks again.

a reply to: mackey88

Poltergeist activity is closely related to abduction experiences.

Abductees and often their friends, families or even total bystanders see ominous and unexplained activity - phones ringing, water flowing, lights on/off, radio iterference, doors opening and closing, you name it. Why is this happening we don't know. Some things like black helicopters, strange vans parked nearby, microwave interference/radiation and phones appearing to be tapped can be attributed to the military trying to get hold of the abductee's situation. We now know that the military probably attempts to get information about aliens or abductees or both. Who specifically does this and why -we can only guess.
The poltergeist activity might mean invisible aliens in house or radiation fields from UFO if it's nearby. The aliens can well make themselves not seen by normal human eye. Probably this is used rarely but some abductees report that they can "smell" the aliens (especially reptilians) in their house sometimes. Or they can smell that these beings were there recently.
I for one think that this activity is either a byproduct of aliens presence or is used to affect the abductee psychologically - what for I don't know.

Raxoxane means that in ufology and in abduction research some cases deviate pretty far from "standard" abduction scenario and these are the "high strangeness" accounts. Aliens having sex with abductee or focing him/her to do it with other abductees used to be high strangeness but now are more or less "canon" if such a word can be used.

i personally detested that word because it shows how we try to apply feeble limited human logic to abduction experience. Nothing is "normal" in this. Everything is "high strangeness".

Hi mackey88 you're welcome,I know how these occurences can "haunt" one's mind.The saddest and most worrying is when it extends to one's children.I have a daughter who just turned 17-she had to be rushed to the provincial capital on of all days,the 21st of December 2012,our GP thought she may need an emergency appendectomy.It turned out to be a bleeding cyst on one of her ovaries(or fallopian tubes,I forget which) But she told me later,and reluctantly,as she hates to even think of the abduction scenario-that before this she had a "dream" where she was confined to chair,like a dentist's chair.There were long needles being inserted into that part of her anatomy,and the pain was excruciating,she had never felt such pain.She used to be a happy-go-lucky girl,but in the past year and a half had begun to suffer depression.I never discuss this topic with her,as I believe she should not feel pressured to talk about experiences until she's ready and initiates such discussion herself,but I have had a few of these abductions which always occur in what feels like a dream state, where she was present too.Including seeing her with medical personnel,humans in white coats.

In one of those scenario's we were both taken but seperated,this was a scenario where we both had babies taken from us-where she was I don't know but I was laying on a table/hospital bed and there was a doctor and nurse.The doctor seemed very pleased-there were no words spoken but it was rather telepathic in nature.The doctor's voice said to me,in my mind:"This was a great success" He was beaming with satisfaction.Then he took this apparatus-with a tip almost like a usb cable tip-and a piece of medical equipment with flashing lights came floating into the room,like a little drone.He inserted the goadygad with the usb tip into the flying piece of apparatus,seemed to draw something out and that done-like thing went off again.Then the injected me in my right upper arm.

The next day my right arm was bitterly sore,all day,heavy feeling,pins+needles,much pain,in fact I could hardly use the arm.I also bled in the womanly way(sorry for the gross factor) for 9 days after that.To this day i often have pain and pins-needles in that arm,a heavy feeling-and before that specific episode,I never had one moment's trouble with my right arm,in my entire life.

What also haunts my mind,is that the nurse,when she left after the procedure,said-and this too was like a telepathic message,not spoken words:"See how good you have it? But still you people always want to complain" I did reply but It's propably best I don't repeat here what my message to her/it was.Thing is,I have a very detailed wolf tattoo on my right arm,and I've examined this-and in the fine little hairs on the top of the wolf's head,it looked like there were imprints of something,not part of the tattoo,but rather in my skin itself.

I woke up one morning and as I started to sit up and move,I felt agonising pain in a muscle along the right side of my back,like I'd pulled a muscle.So bad that I stayed in bed for the whole day,moving was just too painful,it lasted into the next day.The husband rubbed on some horse liniment a few times,the day after it started feeling better.I can understand creaking one's neck a bit while mayne in one's sleep,moving into an awkward position,but how the hell do you injure yourself that badly in your sleep?I have never sleepwalked in my life.But also I had a strange bruise under my mouth,like a birthmark,those portwine type birthmarks.That faded slowly through the day,leaving behind a needlemark/puncture.

All through my life I have had bruises I could'nt explain,but in those days,I just assumed I had one of those skins that bruise easily.Still,after childhood,when I was admittedly a tomboyish girl and very rough+tumble,it Did seem strange because well,you have to bump yourself to get a bruise-and I would find bruises in places where I could not have bumped myself.I will just say,there were no mechanical bulls or rodeo events in my country,so you get the idea.And more disturbing even,waking up with inner soreness,really sore,when you know full well you had not been with anyone the night before.

Needlemarks,often over a vein,happened a lot also.Some mornings waking up with a splitting headache ,a sickening taste and feel in my mouth,and nauseous unto vomiting my guts out,when I went to bed sober as a judge and in perfect health the night before.Then later in the day,I recover,so I know it's not that there was a bug going around+i was sick from having caught it.

There is a specific episode that stands out for me-in that strange "dreamstate" I was in a hospital,with some other women,and I had a feeling I have to get out of here,I knew this was not good-i requested from a nurse that I wanted to leave and she said a doctor would be by presently to see me out.The doctor came,and indeed escorted me out-to my surprise this hospital or medical facility was inside a huge hangar,none too clean and tidy either,looked like an old abandoned aircraft hangar.There was a nurse,sitting by a small nurse's station near the entrance.The doctor did something I thought was very unprofessional,he leaned in to kiss me,not a passionate kiss but like a goodbye kiss as a friend would,a frien you don't see every day,for instance.I was thinking of the nurse sitting there,abd what went through my mind was:"Surely he can get into trouble for this if she talks,its very unprofessional" But when I looked towards where she was sitting,it was not a human nurse anymore,it was a Grey.

After this,I was taken to another building,outside the hangar,where there were many many people,we had to wait in line for our turn to get our proper clothes and put them on,up to then we were in hospital gown apparel.

Just a few examples,but this does start in childhood,it starts maybe in utero,idk..but the 1st time I distinctly remember the strange things happening to me,the interfernce,was when I was 3yo.There was a specific day in my life when I was 3 yo,and from that day I knew that something was very wrong in my life.

EDIT to clarify-my daughter and myself were not pregnant-what happened was that we were shown babies that were supposedly ours,that we were the mothers of,newborn babies.

a reply to: mackey88

a reply to: Jelonek

Hi Jelonek,yes that is absolutely correct-paranormal/poltergeist activity seems to be closely interwoven with the abduction phenomenon.For instance,I have been in my kitchen when 2 grocery items jumped from the centre of the table to the floor-i have stood in my kitchen and saw movement in the draining rack next to the sink,from the corner of my eye,and a knife or fork,a knife if I remember correctly,jumped out of the drying rack and fell to the floor right there+then.My husband was by the stove,with his back to it,and I told him look behind you on the floor-he was as puzzled as I was,because I was meters away leaning against a table.He heard it fall but was amazed to see I was nowhere near the rack.Since very early childhood,all my life,paranormal activity has been a part of my life.In childhood it was a case of menacing unseen presences I could feel around me.I suffered awful night terrors,and when I screamed myself awake I could still distinctly feel the touch on my back,of the horror that chased me,it was an actual physical sensation-there is a thread on here started few days ago-about the very creature that tormented me also-and throughout my life,too numerous instances to mention of happenings that seems paranormal/poltergeist-ish in nature.This is a question that many abductees wonder about-how to tell the difference between the normal paranormal and ET-generated paranormal happenings-or whether it is one+the same thing-or whether one empowers the other(as in supernatural/demonic paranormal happenings being given extra impetus by ET activity,and other way round? I am not sure,myself.But one thing I know is that the abduction phenomenon is insidious-it affects your whole life,from childhood on,it shapes your life in ways you often can only see in hindsight after many many years,and with much examination of your own personal history.But by then it's too late to change the past,so all one can do is forge ahead in the present day,and try to make the best of yourself and your own unique set of circumstances.

a reply to: Uggielicious

I deal with facts, not fantasy, so being totally confident and expressing myself as I see it the term arrogant is off base. The fact is that we humans on earth are the only physical life that is known.


That is NOT a fact because you don't know.

It MAY very well be the case, but you don't know, so it is NOT fact. And I think you know that.

Just because humans are the only 'known' life, doesn't make it a fact that no other life exists. All it means is we don't know if other life exists.

It is a simple matter to put me in my place by your providing evidence for the reality of aliens. How you would be able to do this I don't know but you sound as if you know for a fact that aliens exist. Do you belong to a privileged group that knows more than anyone else?

No, you've got this backwards. I don't know if aliens exist (or not). But I KNOW that you DON'T KNOW if they exist (or not). That is a FACT. You absolutely don't know, so you lied when you said they categorically do not exist.

You don't know, and I don't know. We both don't know. Fact.

I can and did make a bold statement that is backed by the lack of evidence.

You got this whole evidence thing wrong. You don't prove something by the LACK of evidence. You prove something with evidence. If you want to make a bold statement that something doesn't exist, it is on you to PROVE they don't exist.

I, however, am not stating aliens exist. If I did make such a bold statement I would have to prove it. I'm saying I don't know whether they exist or not.

"Could" doesn't sell it.

Again with the "could".

I'm not trying to sell they exist. You're the one trying to sell they don't exist. And so far you've failed miserably.

Anyone can say they are or were a skeptic. I'm a true skeptic because being a skeptic is natural. We are all born skeptics, that is we are not born with a belief system. Some people such as myself resist being mentally controlled by understanding belief systems.

I was born a skeptic too, and I remain skeptical about most things. But your implication that believing in anything is somehow a weakness is wrong. I believe the chair I#m sitting on is real. Does that make me weak minded to believe in it? When people first discovered the world wasn't flat, were they weak to believe that it was actually ball shaped, despite the fact that most people didn't? Were they weak minded and controlled because they believed it was circular in nature?

Anyway, I've never heard of a skeptic claiming he was abducted by aliens. Until I do, my opinion remains.

What are you talking about? Are you seriously trying to say that every abductee was someone who wholehearted believed in aliens before they were abducted? Every single one of them? Are you for real?

originally posted by: TheScion
a reply to: Uggielicious

I deal with facts, not fantasy, so being totally confident and expressing myself as I see it the term arrogant is off base. The fact is that we humans on earth are the only physical life that is known.


That is NOT a fact because you don't know.

It MAY very well be the case, but you don't know, so it is NOT fact. And I think you know that.

Just because humans are the only 'known' life, doesn't make it a fact that no other life exists. All it means is we don't know if other life exists.

It is a simple matter to put me in my place by your providing evidence for the reality of aliens. How you would be able to do this I don't know but you sound as if you know for a fact that aliens exist. Do you belong to a privileged group that knows more than anyone else?

No, you've got this backwards. I don't know if aliens exist (or not). But I KNOW that you DON'T KNOW if they exist (or not). That is a FACT. You absolutely don't know, so you lied when you said they categorically do not exist.

You don't know, and I don't know. We both don't know. Fact.

I can and did make a bold statement that is backed by the lack of evidence.

You got this whole evidence thing wrong. You don't prove something by the LACK of evidence. You prove something with evidence. If you want to make a bold statement that something doesn't exist, it is on you to PROVE they don't exist.

I, however, am not stating aliens exist. If I did make such a bold statement I would have to prove it. I'm saying I don't know whether they exist or not.

"Could" doesn't sell it.

Again with the "could".

I'm not trying to sell they exist. You're the one trying to sell they don't exist. And so far you've failed miserably.

Anyone can say they are or were a skeptic. I'm a true skeptic because being a skeptic is natural. We are all born skeptics, that is we are not born with a belief system. Some people such as myself resist being mentally controlled by understanding belief systems.

I was born a skeptic too, and I remain skeptical about most things. But your implication that believing in anything is somehow a weakness is wrong. I believe the chair I#m sitting on is real. Does that make me weak minded to believe in it? When people first discovered the world wasn't flat, were they weak to believe that it was actually ball shaped, despite the fact that most people didn't? Were they weak minded and controlled because they believed it was circular in nature?

Anyway, I've never heard of a skeptic claiming he was abducted by aliens. Until I do, my opinion remains.

What are you talking about? Are you seriously trying to say that every abductee was someone who wholehearted believed in aliens before they were abducted? Every single one of them? Are you for real?

Absolutely Positively 100% Spot On, Good Job TS! Agree 1000% Percent, and anyone who does not get this is being lead astray.

OG

a reply to: Raxoxane

Wow Raxoxane. I lived with a young lady, in 2003. We had an intense relationship, and I really haven't dated since then... We lived up in the mountains, in a nice ranch house, and the house had a nice sized pond outside the front of the house.

Some of the best, if not the best times of my life. While we were dating, we secretly tried to have a child. Her friends hated me, and my friends hated her. But we had an intense connection. For months, she would jolt awake at 4am, or I would jolt awake at 4am. One night, she woke up on the bench outside on the deck. And was knocking on the window of the bed room. Freaked me out. I was like "Why are you on the porch this late?" She was like "It was really weird, I don't rememeber going outside, but more I realized I was on the porch having a cigarette and was like what am I doing out here" That was very unusual for here. She only smoked like one or two cigs a day. And it was only on the porch, early in the evenings. After the sun would go down, she would go on the porch with a glass of wine, and have like one cigarette. That's all she wanted. Just one, MAYBE, two a day, tops.

One day, I came home from work, and she told me she was pregnant. I was numb. Not unhappy, just could not believe it. I was like "No way!" She had taken like 3 at home tests. She took me in the bathroom and showed me the three empty tests. She had one more, so I went in the kitchen, and she called me back in the bathroom. Yep, it said she was pregnant. So, she went to the clinic in town, and they confirmed it.

We kept it our secret. We were so happy together. We would just cuddle, and laugh, and talk about the babies name. Everyone was so much in our business, she was catching so much crap from her friends, and my friends didn't "approve". But we were really really happy. So we just didn't tell anyone. I cant remember how long, maybe like 30 days.

One night, she woke me up and said she had really bad stomach pains. This went on for a couple of days. I massaged her, and held her. But she was in pain. After the weekend, I said I'm taking you to the doctor. So we went. The clinic nurses were concerned about the belly pain because she was pregnant.

They came back in the room after a lot of "tests" and they told her, "you are not pregnant"... So they sent her to a gynecologist for test. After more test, he told her she had "cysts" on her ovaries, and they were bleeding, but healing? WTF? He told her she would probably not be able to have kids. We were like WTH? She was pregnant like 2 weeks ago. He was like, "That's impossible. The test had to have been giving her a false positives."

7 or 8 tests that said she was definitely pregnant. Then she wasn't.

I had put that out of my until I just read that. WOW!

Mackey..I am so bitterly sorry,this touches my heart,and I feel such sadness now-as I read your post,I could actually picture the two of you,your life together..this is completely heartbreaking.You had something so precious-that's why i also felt a murderous anger rising-I will talk with you a bit later in the day,if you don't mind. Thank you,for sharing this heartbreaking and grim experience,it was brave,brave of you.I need to get my thoughts in order-would you mind if I replied via pm? I am going to sleep for a while,I was up very late,well into the early hours,so I need a bit more rest-and will be back later in the day.There's another element to this,that I would like to make you aware of-something that has happened in my own life,and is still part of my life to this day.reply to: mackey88

a reply to: Raxoxane

Now, Raxoxane, you can't do that to the rest of us! Posting something like "there's more but I'll share in a private message" only sends my curiosity in to overdrive!

Hii dear sled:-)! you know,there are some very personal and painful things,pertaining to the info that i had in mind to give mackey-but i trust you,i will send you a pm right now,with my email address-then we can discuss it further.I promise i am not being mysterious just for the sake of being mysterious-you will understand more when we have talked via email.I am going to present mackey with with this info (available freely on the net,btw,just it sometimes takes a long time to find it,especially if one has a busy life,so i thought i'd just save him some time,as i believe it ties in with the abduction phenomenon,an integral part,maybe) Then if he feels it belongs in this thread,he can post it here,as an added dimension to the thread.But i will discuss this with you,don't worry-just there is an acutely personal angle to this,and i would rather chew off my own arm than share some things on a forum that's viewed by thousands of folks a day.Very painful stuff,friend,you will understand soon enough.Bless you,hope you have a good day:-) a reply to: sled735

a reply to: Raxoxane

Thanks, and I agree that some things don't belong in the threads where it is viewed by anyone and his brother.

I appreciate your trust. Thanks for the message.

You're welcome,sled.I had a feeling to log in just now,few minutes ago:-) tty bit later.a reply to: sled735

a reply to: mackey88

Mackey, check your mail A.S.A.P. !

a reply to: sled735

Sorry for the delay! Just sent you a message!

a reply to: Raxoxane

Hey Raxoxane, thanks for responding. Its been 10yrs since that happened. At the time, it was shocking. I was more angry than sad. She was definitely feeling sadness, but I was P-OFF!!!

Only reason I posted it was your comment brought it back to my memory, and it kind of fits with a "medical procedure", although I can in no way prove any of what happened.

Thank you for your kind words. I guess we could go off on a million different tangents in this thread, but I would like to kind of keep it to the medical stuff, proven or unproven!

Yes...while I was abducted by the US Army, I had my wisdom teeth removed against my will.

It was...eldritch.