Has anyone experienced a medical procedure while abducted?

a reply to: mackey88

I am not in any professional field. I'm 76 and retired. You may be a new member on this forum but I can't say that you are. And you may be a smoker, possibly a heavy one. Here's my opinion on your stated experience: your subconscious mind is concerned about your physical health. Your sub. mind cannot communicate with your conscious mind (the thinking you) but it can affect the communicate during sleep. Your subconscious mind gave you a warning in a dream in a manner that might make you consider a future route to regain your health. It found a simple means to do so because of your interest in UFOs and aliens and you might have become educated enough about them so that you are familiar with alleged alien behavior in the form of abductions. Some alleged abductees are seemingly harmed while others are not.

Your subconscious mind, in dealing with the injury you are causing your body, decided to give you a warning but in a nice sort of way, one that you could accept because it was nonthreatening. I suggest you visit your doctor relate your experience and request that he do the required tests or have you see a lung specialist to determine your danger level.

Your experience was an imagined one for there are no aliens and they're not interacting with humans. Alien abductions were created by humans and you'll find that the media, books and films feed a certain, self-created need and these alleged abductions never happen to skeptics, only to believers.

It's similar to ghosts which are experienced only to religious believers and never to atheists.

a reply to: Uggielicious

Hey Uggielicious.

Thank you for your post. And sir, I respect your opinion. I really do. Especially someone who has lived on this earth for 76 years. You didn't get to 76yrs of age because you were a fool. That I am sure of. I also want to thank you for being concerned enough about my health, to explain why you think I should have my lungs checked out. I appreciate that.

Ok, I want to respond in a way, that will not show any disrespect to you, what so ever. I'm not trying to be smart in anyway, so the only thing I can say is my truth, straight out.

I racked my brain many a night, trying to come up with meaning for this experience I had. But this medical procedure experience was, like many others, different.

I had an infection in my lung, it was actually an infection between my lung and the lining of my lung. The infection has a certain name, but I can't remember it right now. I can tell you it was one of the worst pains I've ever had. It dropped me to my knees in the parking lot, and I was not getting up. It hurt so bad, I bit a hole in my bottom lip. My Mom had asked me to go with her to a museum in Atlanta, and the pain started slowly, at first, but then within just a few minutes, it was a painlevel 10. I literally crawled in the car. We rushed to the emergency room, and the doctors thought I had a lung aneurysm or was having a heart attack. They rushed me to the emergency room and started taking x-rays. They gave me 8 shots of the most powerful pain killer they could because my blood pressure had spiked. It didn't easy the pain in my side, but my entire body was numb. After the x-rays and a full body catscan, they said they couldn't find anything wrong. They looked for everything. Even cancer. They said even though I smoked my lung were perfectly clear.

A couple of years later, I was accepted in the Army OCS program, and this prior event came up in the physical with the doctor. They are looking for any reason possible to have you disqualified. He sent me for chest x-rays again, looking for any lung disease or scar tissue. Again, it came back my lungs were perfectly clear.

I can't prove I was "abducted". And there will always be a part of me that will be skeptical of stories of aliens, ufo's, ghost, or anything paranormal and unexplainable. I'm the type of person that has to have proof.

I work on machines for a living. Nuts and bolts things. And most of my day, I can't actually see inside these machines I'm fixing. I have to go step by step, through a series of observations, coupled with readings I take with metering devices. And I can't actually see inside the metering devices. I have to have a certain belief in the unknown, and trust that my metering devices are giving me the correct measurements. I then have to take all the physical evidence, all my visual observations, and the readings from my metering devices, and make an educated guess as to what is wrong with the machine I'm working on. I do this on average 10 times a day. If I'm wrong or not careful, I can be killed in an instant.

Most of my day, 95% of the time, I can figure out what is wrong. Most of the time, the majority of the time, I figure it out before I open the panel.

I do find machines in a state, where I can't figure it out. That's when the part of my brain goes into OVERDRIVE. It then becomes a puzzle, and a part of me goes berserk wanting to find the missing piece to the puzzle.

Then after I fix the machine, I normally have to listen to every reason under God's sun, as to why they can't pay me right then. I've heard so many different lies, told by so many different people, of every age, race, and education level, I've gotten to a point, really, were I just don't believe anyone. I've listened to this absolute BS, 10 times a day, for 10 years. I believe only a few things to be absolutely true. Puppies pee on the floor, and the sun will come up tomorrow.


But about 60 days ago, I was jolted awake in my bed around 4am. I had fallen asleep in my bed, with my laptop about 12 inches from my head. I had my two dogs, insanely alert pound dogs, that can smell anything and hear anything a mile away, who wake up if I roll over in my bed, were sleeping about 10 feet away from me on the floor.

I woke up to freezing cold ice water, running down my side, my laptop was completely soaked with water, and there was about a 3 foot wide circle of water in the bed, with my laptop sitting directly in the middle of it. The only door was locked and deadbolted. The 3 windows were locked. There was almost nothing in the 600 sqft apartment, because I was moving and had packed everything and put it in storage. I think I had one cooking pot, 2 or 3 cups, and some rice and beans, and a 12 pack of beer. 2 dog bowls, and a bag of dog food. And a Glock pistol and a shotgun, which I sleep with every nite.

When I sat up, the water was still slowly running down the creases in my bed. I looked over at the dogs and they were both on their sides, sleeping. Maya, the crazy fast dog who would chase squirrels down in the yard, lifted her head off the floor when she heard me move, with her ear perked up, and looked at me like "Huh?".... She stared at me for a minute, as I sat there frozen stiff with fear, and then laided her head back down. I grabbed my firearm and jumped up and checked all the doors and windows. All shut and locked.

I went back over to the bed, and picked up my laptop, and water poured out of it. I took it over to my desk, and plugged it back in, and it was shot. I didn't even boot up. Nothing. The light didn't even come on. I walked over to the sink, no water droplets in the sink. The cups and the cooking pot were bone dry. It was 80 degrees outside and hadn't rain in like two weeks.

I didn't dream that water was in my bed. I didn't dream that my computer was full of water and fried. But I did imagine I was getting screwed when I had to count out 4 brand new $100 dollar bills on the counter at the computer store to buy this computer I'm typing on right now.

I didn't see God in the room, I didn't see a little green or grey alien in the room, but there was water in my bed, on my computer, and on me.

How the water got there, and what put the water there, I'm still scratching my head.

And, the next morning I called one of my best friends, who lives 1000 miles away in Miami. I told him what happened. After I finished, he said "Your probably not going to believe me..."

That next morning, he opened up his laptop, he had water on the screen of his laptop. It wasn't soaked, more like had been sprayed with water.

The next week, he went for his morning run on the beach. Got home, and took out a gallon of milk, that had about one big cup of milk left in it. There was another gallon of milk in the fridge next to it that had not been opened yet. He poured the milk in a cup, put his daily dose of chocolate syrup in it, stirred it up and gulped it down. Washed out the empty gallon of milk (cuz he is a weirdo clean freak like that) and tossed it in the recycle bind. Then got ready for his work day. About 30 minutes later, he wife yelled out from the kitchen, "Awww honey, what did you spill on the table?"

He gets up, goes in the kitchen, and on the kitchen table there are 4 placemats. And one of them is completely soaked with milk. Just that one place mat. Nothing else. No milk anywhere else. Just the placemat.

Still scratching his head about that one.

a reply to: Uggielicious

Oh, uhu, ok.

I can only speak for myself.

1) Grew up with a family of no religious background.
2) Didn't believe in ghosts until I was 9 years old due to experiences.
3) Never believed in aliens or ufo's and teased people who believed in it, until the age of 12 when I saw a ufp hoover outside my window, making me freeze, slow down time and later that night I walked into 2 alien creatures in my living room. All physical! This whole experience did a number on me but the most traumatizing thing were people like you. I had no one to talk to, and those I did talk to teased me. Karma maybe. And the experiences kept happening after that but I kept my mouth shut.

So people don't have to believe in ghosts, ufos or aliens for it to happen to them.
But it doesn't happen to all people so be happy that it hasn't happened to you because it is not a life someone wants in a society like this.

Most et movies are taken from testimones from abductees and made into a movie, they spinn it of course.
It is not first came movies then came abductees, it is the other way around.
Not all movies, but some.

I respected you opinion and explaination to what it can be, and sure, probably is for some people.
But when you then say it is all in your head and doesn't exist etc... that is simply a very shameful and aggressive thing to say. You can't put all people in one box and label them.

a reply to: Uggielicious

I've not read every post in this thread, but I saw yours and I do have to say that what you said is very arrogant viewpoint.

As I've said elsewhere on this site, I don't believe 90% of the myths, stories, photos and videos out there. Most of it is either straight up lies, or misidentfication, or hallucinations, or drugs, or mental illness, or whatever.

However, your statements that there are no aliens is downright obnoxious. You do not know that. FACT.

Even if alien life has never stepped foot on earth or interacted with humanity in anyway (which may very well be the case) you can't say there are no aliens out there in the universe. And I think you know you can't say such a bold statement. There is no way you can know that.

The universe could be filled with BILLIONS of alien races, yet the MAMMOTH distances between worlds could ensure no alien races ever even meet.

Plus, the fact that humans obviously do exist PROVES the possibility that an alien intelligence could also exist and evolve on a different planet. Our own existence is proof of this possibility.

Another one of your statements that holds no truth whatsoever is when you stated that no aliens ever abduct skeptics. This is absolute circular reasoning.

If a skeptic is abducted by aliens, they will cease to be a skeptic, and therefore will then become a believer. So ofcourse no skeptics have ever been abducted because that is impossible reasoning.

If a skeptic is abducted, yet don't trust there own memory of it, and therefore deny it ever really happened, they would of course just remain a skeptic. And therefore the skeptic will state they've never been abducted.

So your logic only makes sense because you want it to.

a reply to: mackey88

Yeah, abductions are never single events. If a person is abducted, there's an extremely high probability of that person being abducted since early childhood and being abducted again. It appears the abductees are followed through their entire life - like pet projects. The aliens apparently monitor abductees as well, by means of implants (nasal ones are most prevalent but there are reports of them being in genitalia, spine, legs, hands, etc). They probably not only keep track of abductee but also monitor them for key events that trigger a response. There's a wealth of evidence showing that not everything is gathered; if aliens monitored a person getting all info what that person does, thinks and sees, they wouldn't ask about new scars from recent surgeries, bruises from falling off a bike etc. No, they probably keep it simple. They need only important, basic data and they get it.

So yeah Im afraid theres an extremely high probability of you being abducted again. Take note that intervals between abductions vary - some person may be abducted 6 times a day or be abducted 5 years since the last contact. It depends on aliens' needs, not ours.

The problem of aliens' ultimate goal is another enigma. Research shows they probably attempt hybridization of the species. What for, we can only guess. Maybe they're a dying race. Maybe they need things from us that we have and they don't. Maybe the entire humanity is their test ground and science project. We don't know and maybe it's better that way. Sometimes I wonder whether the truth would shatter our entire life and views about this world.

Somebody here said that he doubts the aliens' intelligence because they use "crude" medical procedure. First of all, simplicity is the key. Observe modern surgery - it attempts to minimize impact on body, make everything simpler, faster, easier to manage. It's not a sci-fi movie with lots of shiny robots performing complicated surgeries on opened-up patients. Real life is about speed, efficiency and simplicity. Simple things work best. Aliens know that.
Another point to consider; that their instruments look "simple" does not mean they perform simple functions or are simple inside. They might be immensely powerful and complicated equipment yet in simple, sleek, easy to maintain package. Show computer mice to a caveman - he will see a blob with cord attached and when connected to a computer he will see blob doing the same things the hand does. He will have no idea about complicated communication protocols, circuitry, materials and knowledge used for contruction.

originally posted by: mackey88
a reply to: rebelv

Hey rebelv.

Did anything other things "happen" when you woke up, sitting up? The term "medical" is big list of things, it doesn't have to be "an alien sticking a needle in my eye" kind of thing. Things as benign as, a bruise on a body part that wasn't there before.

Not that I remember (although I have a lot of missing time). I do have what
appears to be some kind of marking on my knee.

I did experience a visitation in the form of two bright red lights that
could communicate with me via telepathy and said 'We want to commune with you'
I had no fear so agreed.

Next night two of them appeared in my dreams (what people call The Greys)
although these two were very short (about 4')

Ever since then, they appear in my dreams frequently although now in
human form and always two of them that have the capability of
telepathy.

I've seen more than my share of quote UFO's.

Before I read your post, it hadn't even occurred to me that these
examples where I woke up sitting up that it might have been
a quote abduction, but I have no memory of any of the bad kinds of
things abductees claim.

Hope that helps.

Rebel 5

a reply to: rebelv

Thanks for the response rebelv.

What you said in your post is very similar to what the majority of the time happens to me. Most of the time, when 'strange' things happen, its very non-dramatic. Although, the last 8 years or so have been more intense.

Many times, I wake up on my back, wrapped up in my blankets like a cocoon. I'm fast asleep, and I feel something holding my face, shaking me awake, and I wake up. But there is no one there. And, almost every single time, all the lights in my room are on. Its no big deal about all the lights being on, but I never go to bed with the lights in my room on. So when this happens, its terrifying.

Every once in a while, I wake in the sitting position. That never makes much sense to me.

a reply to: mackey88

Phew! That was a very concise glimpse into your recent life full of strange events. And then the addition of your friend. My previous reply was connected to your alien-type experience. I cannot even guess as to what is happening in your life for these events to manifest themselves.

The only suggestion I can make is arm your room with a video security system that you can leave on for 24 hours, review the 24 hours and if there is nothing on the recording medium, re-arm it and hope it proves worthwhile.

In this last event with the water, did you by any chance save a sample for a possible analysis? Since you made it sound as if you don't have a water source near your bed that could be responsible for the wetness then the fact that it materialized should prove different from water that comes out of a faucet for the water that comes out of a faucet is part of a large feed whereas the materializing water had to have been stored as water or molecules, somewhere.

originally posted by: mackey88
And, the next morning I called one of my best friends, who lives 1000 miles away in Miami. I told him what happened. After I finished, he said "Your probably not going to believe me..."

That next morning, he opened up his laptop, he had water on the screen of his laptop. It wasn't soaked, more like had been sprayed with water.

The next week, he went for his morning run on the beach. Got home, and took out a gallon of milk, that had about one big cup of milk left in it. There was another gallon of milk in the fridge next to it that had not been opened yet. He poured the milk in a cup, put his daily dose of chocolate syrup in it, stirred it up and gulped it down. Washed out the empty gallon of milk (cuz he is a weirdo clean freak like that) and tossed it in the recycle bind. Then got ready for his work day. About 30 minutes later, he wife yelled out from the kitchen, "Awww honey, what did you spill on the table?"

He gets up, goes in the kitchen, and on the kitchen table there are 4 placemats. And one of them is completely soaked with milk. Just that one place mat. Nothing else. No milk anywhere else. Just the placemat.

Still scratching his head about that one.

What are yours and your friend's thoughts on why you both are having similar bizarre experiences that do not seem to be associated with aliens? I've never read any similar accounts to yours.

Has anyone experienced a medical procedure while abducted?

Yes, probably. Maybe.

Have I, personally had a such an experience? I don't know. But I sometimes suspect that I have. A number of things lead me to this conclusion - although, frankly, I continually force myself to deny it:

* I am mortified, petrified, immediately nauseated at ANY medical procedure, especially those with poking, probing, or cutting instruments. This has caused me problems, since I avoid seeing medical staff, especially the offices/facilities, etc., to the detriment of my health. I've often passed out cold at the mere sight of a hypodermic needle. I'm especially uncomfortable with anything having to do with restraint or torture. More than once I've passed out cold inside a movie theater during such a scene, and now avoid any such exposure. What really irks me is that when I tell a doctor or nurse that injections and similar procedures cause me to pass out and vomit, they sometimes tease and ridicule me, as in, "oh, don't be such a big baby!"). I hate that! Geez - do these "professionals" think I actually enjoy hurling all over their room and passing out on the floor??

* I am visibly upset and shaken when I see images of "greys", or other such alien visages. I saw "Fire in the sky" - will never watch it again. Same for "Communion", etc. Friends and family laugh at me, so I avoid the subject, but there is a deep-seated fear concerning aliens that I can't explain, been going on for decades now...

* I spend endless hours here and similar sites and do tons of research on this subject, but can't understand my obsession. What am I looking for? The truth? OK, granted, most of us here would like confirmation. But it's more than that. It's not just a hobby, a passing interest. Lurking here and online, and in my own library of alien-themed books (now numbering near a thousand), pondering this issue is truly OCD - I admit it, acknowledge it - but why? WHY am I so obsessed about it?

* I genuinely fear any idea of actually discovering the truth in my past if it exists. Got that? This is NOT hypocritical. I spend hours at a time seeking the truth about others, and "them"- but I want no part of the truth when it concerns my own past. Why? Regression hypnosis? Forget it. I would NEVER agree to such a thing. WHY not? What am I so afraid of?

Those of you that have passed out getting a flu shot, passed out on top of movie patrons in a theater during a torture scene, those of you who may be avoiding something you don't understand in the past while devouring everything you an get your hands on to understand it - perhaps you can sympathize. For others, I sincerely hope you never have to go through it...

Other than the above, if you met me, you would think I'm perfectly normal in every other respect. It is ONLY this that troubles my mind... I wish I knew why...

originally posted by: spazze
a reply to: Uggielicious

Oh, uhu, ok.

I can only speak for myself.

1) Grew up with a family of no religious background.
2) Didn't believe in ghosts until I was 9 years old due to experiences.
3) Never believed in aliens or ufo's and teased people who believed in it, until the age of 12 when I saw a ufp hoover outside my window, making me freeze, slow down time and later that night I walked into 2 alien creatures in my living room. All physical! This whole experience did a number on me but the most traumatizing thing were people like you. I had no one to talk to, and those I did talk to teased me. Karma maybe. And the experiences kept happening after that but I kept my mouth shut.

You can't say people like me without knowing what I'm like and how I behave in different situations. You don't know what my reaction would have been like if you had known me during your youth to make you think I'd be negative and pooh pooh your experience if you had told me. You're creating mental scenarios and projecting unfair negativity towards me only on my reply to the OP.

So people don't have to believe in ghosts, ufos or aliens for it to happen to them.
But it doesn't happen to all people so be happy that it hasn't happened to you because it is not a life someone wants in a society like this.

If you can prove that ghosts exist then you will also prove that people have ghostly encounters. But you don't seem to be aware of the power of the mind. UFOs do not require a belief system as their reality is unquestionable and I've had 6 superb sightings and videotaped one. But most of those that believe in the reality of UFOs is where the problem begins because belief systems are the mind's creation and its enemy for a belief doesn't require evidence and without evidence you're not operating on all mental cylinders.

Most et movies are taken from testimones from abductees and made into a movie, they spinn it of course.
It is not first came movies then came abductees, it is the other way around.
Not all movies, but some.

Is that so? I guess the early silent movies about aliens on the moon made it up!

I respected you opinion and explaination to what it can be, and sure, probably is for some people.
But when you then say it is all in your head and doesn't exist etc... that is simply a very shameful and aggressive thing to say. You can't put all people in one box and label them.

We live, primarily, in a physical world with the mental world not far behind. If it doesn't occur in physical life it can occur only in your mental one. UFOs are physical. Aliens are a human construct until their reality can be proven. So far it hasn't, at least not with irrefutable evidence, just hearsay. No cigar.

originally posted by: TheScion
a reply to: Uggielicious

I've not read every post in this thread, but I saw yours and I do have to say that what you said is very arrogant viewpoint.

I deal with facts, not fantasy, so being totally confident and expressing myself as I see it the term arrogant is off base. The fact is that we humans on earth are the only physical life that is known.

As I've said elsewhere on this site, I don't believe 90% of the myths, stories, photos and videos out there. Most of it is either straight up lies, or misidentfication, or hallucinations, or drugs, or mental illness, or whatever.

However, your statements that there are no aliens is downright obnoxious. You do not know that. FACT.

It is a simple matter to put me in my place by your providing evidence for the reality of aliens. How you would be able to do this I don't know but you sound as if you know for a fact that aliens exist. Do you belong to a privileged group that knows more than anyone else?

Even if alien life has never stepped foot on earth or interacted with humanity in anyway (which may very well be the case) you can't say there are no aliens out there in the universe. And I think you know you can't say such a bold statement. There is no way you can know that.

I can and did make a bold statement that is backed by the lack of evidence.

The universe could be filled with BILLIONS of alien races, yet the MAMMOTH distances between worlds could ensure no alien races ever even meet.

"Could" doesn't sell it.

Plus, the fact that humans obviously do exist PROVES the possibility that an alien intelligence could also exist and evolve on a different planet. Our own existence is proof of this possibility.

Again with the "could".

Another one of your statements that holds no truth whatsoever is when you stated that no aliens ever abduct skeptics. This is absolute circular reasoning.

If a skeptic is abducted by aliens, they will cease to be a skeptic, and therefore will then become a believer. So ofcourse no skeptics have ever been abducted because that is impossible reasoning.

If a skeptic is abducted, yet don't trust there own memory of it, and therefore deny it ever really happened, they would of course just remain a skeptic. And therefore the skeptic will state they've never been abducted.

So your logic only makes sense because you want it to.

Anyone can say they are or were a skeptic. I'm a true skeptic because being a skeptic is natural. We are all born skeptics, that is we are not born with a belief system. Some people such as myself resist being mentally controlled by understanding belief systems. Anyway, I've never heard of a skeptic claiming he was abducted by aliens. Until I do, my opinion remains.

Guys, just a friendly observation....
Mackey wants to share his abduction experience and discuss medical procedures. In here we give him the benefit of the doubt.
Let's not allow the thread to devolve into believers vs debunkers thread. It's not what its for.

Thanks Jelonek.

I want this to be a thread people can share openly, without having to "prove" their experiences.

If you come here trying to push an "agenda", or starting trolling or bashing people that express their experiences, you will be reported to the "Mods".

For clarification on what actions will get you booted off the thread, please go to the "forums" section, scroll down to "Aliens and Ufo's" section, then read the thread "ALL MEMBERS READ: Increased Scrutiny for Aliens and UFO's forum" posted by tothetenthpower.....

That being said, I would love to read more stories about Medical Procedures or things related to that nature. Look forward to reading them!

Thank you to everyone who has shared so far, and if I haven't responded to you personally, please don't take it personally. I have thoroughly enjoyed what everyone has shared so far.

a reply to: Outrageo

Thanks for your post Outrageo.

You posted a few things that I can relate to. I can not and will not watch horror movies, or movies about abductions. I have watched parts of them, but unless I'm strapped to my chair, I get up and leave. Movies like that make me ill to my stomach.

Needles scare me. I sweat profusely when I have gotten them in the past.

I too have spent hours researching and looking for "something I cant quite put my finger on" type of things. After I saw my first UFO, I spent hours and weeks looking for pictures of UFO's, and all I saw was a small light in the sky that changed colors and moved in a figure 8 pattern. Then second UFO I saw over downtown Atlanta, I looked for two years at pictures, and I finally found one that looked like it, the blue aquatic center during the Olympics in China.

And the part you posted about not really wanting to find the truth...... That is exactly how I feel. I have not set up a video camera or listening device in my room, because, I think that if I actually recorded an ET in my room, I would crack, and might become the guy walking down the street in tattered clothes with mangy dreadlocks and no shoes, babbling to anyone I met to look out "the aliens are coming!!!" or walk around like Tom Hanks in the movie about the deserted island screaming "WILSON!!! Come back!!!!"

After the water in my bed 60 days ago, I have not wanted to go to sleep. It has seriously affected my performance during the work day. I just hope it doesn't happen again.

a reply to: mackey88
I experience sleep paralysis from time to time,
and It seems that I am awake but can not move and
I sense the presence of someone or someone(s) in the
room or something(s). I can feel the bed moving
because someone is up on the bed.

The last time I experienced this, they actually
moved me around which was potentially frightening
However, I've been experiencing these kinds of things
since I was 10 years old, and I have discovered the fastest
way to make it stop and come out of paralysis is to remain
calm.

Thanks for you replies by the way also.

Rebel 5

originally posted by: mackey88
a reply to: Outrageo

I have not set up a video camera or listening device in my room, because, I think that if I actually recorded an ET in my room, I would crack, and might become the guy walking down the street in tattered clothes with mangy dreadlocks and no shoes, babbling to anyone I met to look out "the aliens are coming!!!" or walk around like Tom Hanks in the movie about the deserted island screaming "WILSON!!! Come back!!!!"

ROFL!!!

There is no Et with an agenda to disclose to the world that they're accessing you, that is behind the veil stuff and would violate most soul contracts and why you're even here. Not joking, read up on what Sleeper says, and Lou Baldin's site, because it doesnt' work that way. Knowing how it really works, you pretty much are off the hook on setting up infared tech for dark bedrooms, and don't walk around with expensive camera's glued to you.

You just share with people how to either have contact, if thats what they want, or try to discourage them, or how to be protected from meddling, OR how to wake up more and develop your psi from a Higher Mind and Love platform in which case contact really won't be fear based anyway.

But, I'll give an example. This is how real Et works. If for example you're in your room, OR you're in a stadium watching a game, and the craft is overhead, either completely stealthed or in subspace, OR visible, and it doesnt matter either way.

You remember looking at your clock. Then you continue with your day or night. The clock just continued. No one noticed the time splice that took place. In the case of the stadium, maybe a few were taken, but its my opinion that all had missing time. Everyone was processed, given checkups and other things.

Now out of that stadium for example, a few may have seen the craft, the rest didn't. Most don't know they were taken, but some remember a bit of it.

In some cases everyone sees it, because they want to nudge everyone to wake up more, some are in denial, that soundless hovering light 200 feet up is a satellite or a drone, others are excited or afraid and some are in contact.

But no one even catches them on film unless its part of their soul contract to do so, and I've been outside with a camera on a few optimum nights and nothing flashes or shows up, so it doenst seem to matter.

Its pretty easy to get in contact with them, and then start to have sitings, just don't feel like encouraging people being at risk. There are lots of sides.

But just a youtube search will yield results and it works.

I am going to write this, but the problem is it takes me several paragraphs just to give the whole disclaimer and how to seek at growing spirit, love, meditate and not allign with the wrong ones.

But I'm actually curious. Is it more psi? Those with more gifts in that area experience this immediately and those who are very programmed in conventional beliefs and materialism don't?

So, experiment is this. Watch these videos and shield from any concept of merging or we're One. Thats the actual problem with the acturian one. I got contact, and saw two different ETs, one was blue and yet a little more human looking than they described, and the other was a man and was inside that craft, at least in a kind or remote viewing or being pulled way. And it was lovely positive energy, but after this message about waking up and raising earth from lower frequency the concept of One, and to me Merging. I don't merge.

Its not just true that they're monitoring everyone watching this video, but did find that to be true, but in reality they monitor everyone all the time, so any video is going to be monitored by many groups of them.

So the paragraphs of giving warnings, that my purpose is simply to greet Love and Good teams and say hi and thanks for looking over us, but its also a bit of a test on my part. I remember I have a home to return to, people I love here and on the other side and really have no intentions of portalling into another dimension that i don't recognize.

But they are mentioned in the bible as positives with pleiades. Orion is given bad rap in the bible..

But the experiment is this, if you watch these, what do you sense? Do you get contact or uplifted and a message? How about the next morning? Receive a download of new ideas? Wonder how many are aware.


ET's assisting Earth Arcturian message- P1 Footage of mothership, scoutcrafts, introduction.

And this one especially. This one I had a strong positive joyful happy uplifted energy and a strong message from and its the craft shown at Eceti ranch.

Actual think watching the whole 14 minutes is good because it a bit like meditating, your mind gets soothed.


Galactic Family - Lightship footage compilation

If someone is really striving to contact their Team up there or Guidance and they don't seem to feel or get greeting. The next step in trying without giving up and standing out in the cold for hours on end month after month, (not saying skywatching can't be enjoyable in good weather), is to find a wonderful hemi sync or Theta type sound video and listen to it for 30 minutes first. Then watch the video.

This for example as the theta first:


Ascension Theta Meditation Binaural Beats - Also with Hemi-Sync

Its not very long. People who are experiencing greetings, and uplifted energy sessions with encouragement, and sightings, don't tend to think it done by the military, though there are military abductions. They know.

But after all this time, with so many resources at people's fingertips and meditation and methods, why are people still debating about ufology as if its all one thing, and possibly all military. I've had et abductions and they were far over the head of our military. But the main thing is, abductions aren't fun. But people can make contact themselves and those interested in this should have already had their own experiences, sightings etc.