NASA attempting to cover-up Nicaraguan meteorite strike?

a reply to: eriktheawful

With my luck, the meteor would hit my house and kill me. My wife would collect the life insurance and house insurance and she wouldn't have to pay for a funeral because I would be shoved into the ground already.

Well, beats getting old and crippled with alzheimers disease

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

All I can say is: To what end? What would be gained by "covering up" a meteor strike? Specially one as inconsequential as this one?

Any meteorite strike is significant. I don't know why they would attempt to cover it up, that is why I came to this conspiracy site and attempted to initiate some open minded thought provoking discussion on it. Maybe we are having more meteorite strikes than the models predict, so we will have to investigate why the models are wrong, and maybe some already know why the models are wrong but would like to keep this knowledge from the public - it certainly has happened before, are you saying something like that is impossible?

Do you think it is wrong to talk about a possible cover-up on this conspiracy website?

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

All I can say is: To what end? What would be gained by "covering up" a meteor strike? Specially one as inconsequential as this one?

Any meteorite strike is significant. I don't know why they would attempt to cover it up, that is why I came to this conspiracy site and attempted to initiate some open minded thought provoking discussion on it. [...]

Do you think it is wrong to talk about a possible cover-up on this conspiracy website?

Not if there is some evidence of a conspiracy to discuss! But you don't seem to have any evidence other than "it might be, what if it was?", which could be applied to anything at all. Why this news story out of all the hundreds you could have picked?

How can we have a meaningful discussion when the only evidence appears to be in your own head?

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

All I can say is: To what end? What would be gained by "covering up" a meteor strike? Specially one as inconsequential as this one?

The simple reason is that 'all' these meteorites make up the orbiting debris of Planet X/Brown Dwarf..which has been attempted to be covered up since its discovery, incidentally it is nearing Earth more so by the day.

We are experiencing a serious uptake in meteorites and it is building year on year...here's something to ponder..all the records we have, are (for the main) based around meteorites that hit land..considering our planet is mainly water this is exceptionally worrying prospect,how many are we unaware of??..the biggun is coming soon,only someone uninformed would think otherwise.

Oh..and as for NASA..there sole job is to hide the true nature of space...they are heavily editing the SOHO camaras which are showing compelling images daily and BATRUS data which is signalling a magnetic body in the near vicinity which is deforming our magnetic field.We are in no doubt nearing the end game.

By the way thanks for the thread Planet X good job tackling this!!...and i have some info i wouldn't mind your opinion on,but i will have to PM you the link as it might break t&c's..i'll get on that later after work..stay well man..

originally posted by: Buddyman

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

All I can say is: To what end? What would be gained by "covering up" a meteor strike? Specially one as inconsequential as this one?

Oh..and as for NASA..there sole job is to hide the true nature of space...

Once again, how can NASA do that? Any rube with a telescope can look at space. It's straight up there above your head!

As for Planet X, I thought that had died with the 2012 hoopla... no such luck.

a reply to: Buddyman

Really? That's what NASA's true purpose is?

So, is that also the true purpose of the ESA? The Russian space agency? The Indian space agency? The Japanese space agency? The Chinese?

Is that also the purpose of how many universities with their own observatories?

Is that what every single amateur astronomer out there are doing?

Wow. That's a MASSIVE cover up involving....well, billions of people.

Somehow, I just don't buy that.

We've been told over and over that Nibiru/Planet X is on it's way. We see dates posted, taken down, changed, date arrives but no Nibiru/Planet X.

We're still waiting.......

a reply to: Rob48

Least of all NASA. What would they gain?

NASA needs to keep the impact model as the only method of crater creation, as admission of the true cause would open up a huge can of worms. The real cause is electric discharge, but an admission of such would lead to the realisation that all the craters, not just on Earth but on other impacted bodies so far observed, are also electrical discharges.
Heres a smaller crater from a mountain trail in Colorado:
www.summitpost.org...
The photographer noted the charring of some of the rocks, and assumes lightning.
And going back to 2007, there was this one from Peru:
contrarybooks.com...

The September 15, 2007, impact in Carancas, Peru, resulting in a 45 feet diameter crater, was caused by a chondrite (stony) meteorite 10 feet in diameter. In theory, it should have delivered as much energy as an atomic bomb with an explosive energy of 15-kiloton equivalent of TNT -- enough to destroy New York City -- but there was only smoke and steaming groundwater. People walked over from nearby to have a look. Peter Schultz, professor of geological sciences at Brown University and an expert in extraterrestrial impacts, went to Peru to learn more and he presented the findings from his travels at the 39th annual Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in League City, Texas. [March 11, 2008] "This just isn't what we expected," Schultz said. "It was to the point that many thought this was fake. It was completely inconsistent with our understanding how stony meteorites act."

Consistent with an electrical discharge though, but they wont even entertain the idea, there would be too much egg on too many scientists faces if this were to become an accepted method of crater formation.

a reply to: Buddyman

ROFL

With all the amateur astronomers around, I am sure that keeping "Planet X" a secret would be a simple matter.

Let's see...Planet X has been about to hit us since, oh, late 90s?

There is nothing factual about Planet X. Nothing verifiable, nothing nothing. It's a doom porn hoax. Fodder for weak minds that will believe anything.

a reply to: GaryN

Makes no sense. Why would it open a can of worms? No logic whatsoever.

Besides which, there are so many lightning strikes that it would be obvious to anyone who has ever been near one. Yet, there are no reports...no documentation.

This would be quantifiable, verifiable and documentable, easily. Yet it is not.

More nonsense from the tin foil hat crowd.

a reply to: Psynic gee I don't know. Maybe because they're not the only ones with telescopes? If they stay quiet someone else certainly would not. But they don't stay quiet because they know that. They realize that you can't keep these things secret. If they can see it so can an astronomer from some other country or even from our own. It's common sense simply put...

Oh please. Not this happy horse crap again. NASA Cannot cover up space. It's there for the looking. Get a telescope. See if anyone comes to your door to take it away. I just know that the only reason you posted what you did was to inflame. And here I am taking the bait. Planet X. Yeah piloted by Luke Skywalker. y to: Buddyman

a reply to: GaryN

I like your thinking, very open minded.

As most scientists today know, most of the science laws we now take for granted were at one point considered "crazy" by mainstream science, and it is only by thinking outside the box and perseverance that scorned scientists were able to formulate these laws, often from their observations of anomalies.

However, even though meteorite craters may by accompanied by electric discharge during their formation, I do not believe electric discharge is the sole cause of their formation.

But thanks for thinking outside the box, keep an open mind!

Although there is no conceivable reason to cover up a meteorite strike, the fact that collectors are willing to pay a great deal of money for meteorites suggests a reason why some people might choose to fake a meteorite strike. Fortunately, collectors can tell the difference between the various types of meteorite and slag.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I like your thinking, very open minded.

It's not just about being blindly open minded, it is about looking at accepted science and applying it to the situation at hand, and trying to determine if it is possible that alternative processes are at work. If there is no science to allow for those processes to work, then the idea can be discarded.
In the case of craters, I asked if electricity could cause such features, and looking into the effects of electricity on rock, I find that pulsed electric fields are used commercially to shatter rock, and the nature of the shattering will depend on the magnitude and characteristics of the discharge, as well as the dielectric, piezo-electric and capacitive properties of the rock. The Coulomb forces can be extremely powerful and cause rock to be ejected from a cliff face for example, and if the energy input is powerful enough, a Coulomb explosion can occur, breaking chemical bonds and releasing a lot of energy, explosively.
We know that lightning strikes somewhere on Earth millions of times a day, and in sandy or dusty soil it can create fulgerites, yellow and green glass as found in the deserts or on mountain and hill tops. I have found amorphous silica, which requires temps of 2200 C to form, also on mountains and hill tops, so what caused the temperature? Well, we know that ohmic or inductive heating can occur with rock, up to those temperatures.
So electricity as a causitive force can not be eliminated for craters and other geomorphology processes, and some mainstream geophysicists do accept that much of what was thought to be long-term, gradual weathering of mountain peaks is most likely from electrical activity.
Here's an example of a crater on a mountain trail in Colorado. The photographer noted the charred appearance of some of the rocks in the pit.
www.summitpost.org...
I have seen and photographed what are clearly lightning caused pits and discharge shattering in my own part of the world, so it is about the magnitude of the discharge, and nobody can say there is an upper limit to the magnitude of electrical discharges possible on Earth, especially at times of large coronal mass ejections, when the electric field gradient could reach many millionds of volts/metre, and the evidence for such events in Earths past is plentiful and obvious, once you start to recognise certain features as not being possible by weathering, erosion, glaciers, tectonics and upthrust.
So yes, an open mind is neccessary, but also the willingness to examine the possible alternaives in a scientific and unbiased way. If an idea is totally preposterous, it should be disprovable with no more than two well thought out statements, so if anyone here can disprove the possibility of electrical formation of craters, lets hear it.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Is it because such an event is inconsistent with their claims that such events are extremely rare?

Well these events are extremely rare.....but they do happen, I can't see why NASA or Space Weather or anyone else for that matter would want to cover up an actual meteorite strike.

I don't know, why does any institution or organization cover-up anything? Do you think any cover-ups or conspiracies exist? If so provide some examples. Or do you believe everything the MSM and the government spoon feeds you?

Is it wrong to speculate about possible conspiracies or cover-ups on this website?

Nothing like giving a person a choice between agreeing with you or being an imbecile. Do you believe in any conspiracies or everything msm spoon feeds you? Gee not much gray area in your world is there? Let's try that on you.
Do you believe an educated credible professional or every moron who comes up with an off the wall theory? See how biased that is? So was your choices for that poster.

Why are you presenting what I said as a false dichotomy? I realize that may be one of the logical fallacies though you may not.

The false dichotomy argument which you attempted to accuse me of and failed, would go like this: Either everything is a conspiracy or nothing is a conspiracy. Get it? But of course I am aware of the illogic of the false dichotomy, and try to avoid them and did not use one here.

Asking you if you believe in even a single conspiracy, one cannot be accused of using the logical fallacy of the false dichotomy.

I just like to know who I am discussing things with. I love thought provoking discussions with intelligent people with divergent viewpoints, it is a great way to broaden your knowledge.

However, I dislike wasting my time with people who are closed minded and possibly have a hidden agenda and may not be representing their own personal viewpoint.

If it is true you do not believe in any conspiracies, that is fine, that is your right, but it is the very definition of closed mindedness, and I shudder to think why you would have that belief and still come to a conspiracy website and write thousands of post and badger and insult people.

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

ok..I will ask the question:

Why would there be a conspiracy to hide a natural phenomena that happens commonly?

Well i suppose they have never ran a backhoe before. That hole looks nothing like what a backhoe would do. To get the circluar effect one would have to dig on all sides and those trees are in the way. This does not even remotely look like the work of a machine. Guess what there will be fragments present in the ground if it was from the sky. It really makes no sense to cover it up and the timing was too close to another rock near us to totally dismiss the claim that it was from the sky. I wonder what they found in that hole that is worth calling out the shill masters to sway opinion on the matter. I call dibbs on the object and if it is not returned to me then those in contact with it will be cursed.

a reply to: deadeyedick

This is Nicaragua we are talking about.... one dude with a shovel would be the more likely scenario.

a reply to: bbracken677
There you go again with your logical reality. I still call dibbs

originally posted by: bbracken677
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

ok..I will ask the question:

Why would there be a conspiracy to hide a natural phenomena that happens commonly?

That is a great question!

The general answer is, well, they do not people to know the truth.

So specifically in the case, what is the truth? I'm not sure.....but I'll repost some of what I wrote above:

Any meteorite strike is significant. I don't know why they would attempt to cover it up, that is why I came to this conspiracy site and attempted to initiate some open minded thought provoking discussion on it. Maybe we are having more meteorite strikes than the models predict, so we will have to investigate why the models are wrong, and maybe some already know why the models are wrong but would like to keep this knowledge from the public - it certainly has happened before, are you saying something like that is impossible?