NASA attempting to cover-up Nicaraguan meteorite strike?

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

I don't know, why does any institution or organization cover-up anything? Do you think any cover-ups or conspiracies exist? If so provide some examples. Or do you believe everything the MSM and the government spoon feeds you?

Is it wrong to speculate about possible conspiracies or cover-ups on this website?

Of course it's good to speculate, but my question to you was why would NASA or anyone else try to cover up a meteorite strike?.....they are quite rare, but they do happen, everyone knows that......since you are the OP'er....how about you tell us why you think that anybody would want to cover up an actual meteorite strike, and a relatively small one at that?

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Is it because such an event is inconsistent with their claims that such events are extremely rare?

Well these events are extremely rare.....but they do happen, I can't see why NASA or Space Weather or anyone else for that matter would want to cover up an actual meteorite strike.

I don't know, why does any institution or organization cover-up anything? Do you think any cover-ups or conspiracies exist? If so provide some examples. Or do you believe everything the MSM and the government spoon feeds you?

Is it wrong to speculate about possible conspiracies or cover-ups on this website?

Not wrong, no. However one should examine what is to be gained.

People, organizations and/or govts do not just decide to cover something inconsequential up for no reason. There is either something to be gained by the cover up, or likely there is no conspiracy.

It looks the right shape for a meteorite crater - there's a particular curve shape with a raised edge and a parabolic/conical crater. Both of those are there. But if it was a metal/rock meteorite there should be remnants underground.

One thing to remember is that only objects above a certain mass and of a certain composition will remain incandescent through it's passage through the atmosphere.
If the object is small enough it will shed most energy in it's passage through the atmosphere, and will still have enough energy to excavate said crater.

originally posted by: samkent
Somebody playing with explosives.

Could be. Looks a lot like a bomb crater.

I don't think I remember seeing any meteorite craters before this one.

Would someone be able to profit by creating a trending new doom porn based on the Earth getting peppered with these?

Nicaragua would be a pretty easy place to pull off something like this.

Stage a bigger one in Mexico to follow and speculate the third may hit LA and I think you'd get peoples attention.

Conversely, if it were a real threat NASA would want to downplay it.

a reply to: punkinworks10

This is what I'm thinking. Or who knows, maybe no one saw the flash? Maybe it just wasn't recorded or witnessed.

I think it was either what you said or it just wasn't witnessed.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: Argyll
a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

Is it because such an event is inconsistent with their claims that such events are extremely rare?

Well these events are extremely rare.....but they do happen, I can't see why NASA or Space Weather or anyone else for that matter would want to cover up an actual meteorite strike.

I don't know, why does any institution or organization cover-up anything? Do you think any cover-ups or conspiracies exist? If so provide some examples. Or do you believe everything the MSM and the government spoon feeds you?

Is it wrong to speculate about possible conspiracies or cover-ups on this website?

Nothing like giving a person a choice between agreeing with you or being an imbecile. Do you believe in any conspiracies or everything msm spoon feeds you? Gee not much gray area in your world is there? Let's try that on you.
Do you believe an educated credible professional or every moron who comes up with an off the wall theory? See how biased that is? So was your choices for that poster.

So, someone at NASA looks at a picture says it was dug by a backhoe and there is no evidence of anyone seeing it fall.

Well, first of all, has anyone at NASA who wrote this actually ever used a backhoe or observed one digging a hole under those conditions? Have they actually even went down there to look at the site or are they looking at a picture on a monitor and making assumptions. I like science but not fake science. Don't even make statements like that unless you have gone and made observations yourself.

I can't say if it was a meteor or not, but neither can a person sitting behind a desk somewhere who has no evidence. Something hit there, that is quite evident as people witnessed the boom. It could have been someone with explosives but I see no evidence of a backhoe on the pictures I have seen. And I know backhoes and trackhoes pretty well. I have worked construction for many years and have used a backhoe myself years ago. They make evident tracks which I have not seen evidence of. Maybe NASA got better pictures from the space station and their cameras can see the tracks clearly. I would expect our military to have that capability though, not NASA.

We will leave this to the people who are actually there to interpret. Was this related to the meteor flying by? I don't know, it is possible. The one in Russia was determined to come from a different direction, so that one was evidently not related to the flyby of that asteroid, or so we are told.

Does it bother you that not everyone believes in conspiracies. Are we not allowed membership on this site that same as you?a reply to: PlanetXisHERE

a reply to: rickymouse

It was not officially put out by NASA.

It was a comment made by Dr. Tony Phillips, who happens to run Spaceweather.com, in which he republishes NASA articles, ESA articles, etc.

However, the comment about a "backhoe" was from him....not NASA

Why would NASA downplay a real threat? Doesn't the government warn us about lots of threats? Don't they tell us about pending storms ,hurricanes, wild fires, landslides and avalanches? Don't they tell us every time there's an asteroid that will pass near earth. Don't the have a web page just for near earth objects? Since they're so up front about those things how do they get the reputation of covert operators. Or is it just fun to imagine they've got something they're hiding from us.
reply to: Psynic

a reply to: PlanetXisHERE


Okay, I could see you speculating about other things it might have been (IE explosives, etc) instead of a meteorite.

However, if you're also going to be open to and speculate that NASA was trying to cover it up....then speculate!

In other words, WHY you think they were trying to cover it up, for what reason, etc, etc.

I and others might not agree with you, except I can't even do that (except to say that officially that statement did not come from NASA itself). I and others still need to hear your reasoning behind it.

Having sparred with you in the past over stuff, I KNOW you normally would put out the WHY part, hehehehe. So I'm kind of missing it here.

My gut says: Nah...why would they?

But I'm still open to hear what you have to say! Else the conversation becomes: Yes they did! No they didn't! and everyone get's bored and goes home.

So lay it on us when you have time.

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Why would NASA downplay a real threat? Doesn't the government warn us about lots of threats? Don't they tell us about pending storms ,hurricanes, wild fires, landslides and avalanches? Don't they tell us every time there's an asteroid that will pass near earth. Don't the have a web page just for near earth objects? Since they're so up front about those things how do they get the reputation of covert operators. Or is it just fun to imagine they've got something they're hiding from us.
reply to: Psynic

Because we can do something to defend ourselves from "hurricanes, wild fires, landslides, and avalanches".

Who knows what they do and do not tell us about "asteroids that pass near earth".

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Why would a supposed cover up hide a bigger asteroid? That doesn't even make a little sense. There's no burn mark on that hole. It's a fraud. A hoax. But hey it's NASA so of course you ahem...guys ....are out in force. Give me a break already will ya?

Does it surprise you to see threads about conspiracies on a conspiracy website? Do you think conspiracies exist?

I wonder if you are here to give NASA a bad name, and spread FUD about them being a shady agency. I see it a lot on this site. I think it might be a conspiracy. How do we know your intentions are legit? you could be a shill from the real NWO that seek to cover up things by making the real organisations all sound iffy.

Yeah, this is a conspiracy site, lets make any old thing up and run with it....

The neverending 'oneupmanship' game playing that goes on in ATS threads is a great means for entertainment.

I think the owners should turn this place into a cable network reality tv show, they'd make a killing.

originally posted by: eriktheawful
a reply to: rickymouse

It was not officially put out by NASA.

It was a comment made by Dr. Tony Phillips, who happens to run Spaceweather.com, in which he republishes NASA articles, ESA articles, etc.

However, the comment about a "backhoe" was from him....not NASA

Yeah, I just read an article on this and NASA's part is the skepticism of it being a companion of the meteor that passed by. They aren't saying it isn't a part of it but say it most likely is not related. There may have been twenty people digging for the precious meteor in that hole, destroying the evidence. Notice the guy in a picture in another thread on ATS with a metal detector......I bet he has a shovel with him too.

If a meteor puts a hole in my back yard. It is mine, I am going to sell it. I'll be damned if I am going to donate it to some scientists or a college.

originally posted by: PlanetXisHERE

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
a reply to: Yeahkeepwatchingme

Why would a supposed cover up hide a bigger asteroid? That doesn't even make a little sense. There's no burn mark on that hole. It's a fraud. A hoax. But hey it's NASA so of course you ahem...guys ....are out in force. Give me a break already will ya?

Does it surprise you to see threads about conspiracies on a conspiracy website? Do you think conspiracies exist?

I think the issue is more "what would anyone possibly gain by covering up a meteor impact, when it would in fact be a neat and newsworthy event?"

Least of all NASA. What would they gain? It makes zero sense. If you're going to invent a conspiracy, at least make it have some purpose!

originally posted by: Psynic

originally posted by: AutumnWitch657
Why would NASA downplay a real threat? Doesn't the government warn us about lots of threats? Don't they tell us about pending storms ,hurricanes, wild fires, landslides and avalanches? Don't they tell us every time there's an asteroid that will pass near earth. Don't the have a web page just for near earth objects? Since they're so up front about those things how do they get the reputation of covert operators. Or is it just fun to imagine they've got something they're hiding from us.
reply to: Psynic

Because we can do something to defend ourselves from "hurricanes, wild fires, landslides, and avalanches".

Who knows what they do and do not tell us about "asteroids that pass near earth".

It's not like we have to rely on NASA to tell us. You realise lots of near earth objects were discovered by amateurs? People with no affiliation to NASA?

There seems to be this weird idea on ATS that NASA somehow "owns" space. Anyone can look at space, you know. We don't have to ask Houston's permission!

a reply to: rickymouse

Depending on the size and type, there are a lot of collectors out there that will pay some pretty big money for meteorites.

So I say: go for it!