Heavily Armed 'Men In Green' Enter East Ukrainian Villages

originally posted by: maghun
a reply to: DJW001

According to yout statements you understand nothing.

There is no Russian invasion anymore than there were WMD, mobile weapons labs, aluminum tubes, Sarin gas etc, etc, etc. It’s all BS concocted by a servile media pursuing the agenda of a warmongering political establishment that wants to escalate the conflagration in east Ukraine at all cost. Even if it leads to a Third World War.

Obama’s “Catastrophic Defeat” in Ukraine

“We are currently witnessing an epic and historic event. The Ukrainian regular army and the punitive battalions are suffering a catastrophic defeat to the south of Donetsk…..It still is not quite clear how the Junta intends to avoid a complete defeat here…. By squandering the most combat-capable brigades in systematic offensive operations, the Junta sustained enormous losses and at the same time suffered a crushing, purely military defeat. The southern front has collapsed.”

President Obama has done nothing but sit on his hands throughout this crisis. Quoting Palestinian propaganda does nothing to change that fact.

a reply to: DJW001

Donbass is a second Palestine.

...and about the "leaders":

The entire Ukraine conflict could be resolved tomorrow morning if Kiev, and its western support, would pledge to stop waging war on the Donbass. And give it a separate status, either within Ukraine or in a separate state. After half a year+ of warfare, how else could you resolve this crisis? Only through more bloodshed, that’s how.

But our western leadership is simply too trigger happy for comfort. Based on only hints and allegations. There’s a NATO conference in Wales this week; Obama, Merkel, they’ll all be there. I suggest you just watch and listen what comes out of that. It won’t be pretty. Peace will not be a commonly used term there. While for all of us, and all the civilians in the Donbass, that’s all we want.

But these clowns are dragging us into war. And yes, maybe it would be a good idea for you to tell them that you don’t want them to.

These Clowns Are Dragging Us Into War

a reply to: maghun

Donbass is a second Palestine.

Yes, a handful of violent fanatics are using innocent civilians as human shields. Works for me.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Here`s our answer about all the "invasion" talk, US needed an excuse to send in weapons.

It`s always the same, and people still claiming US isn`t an aggressor...

Of course weapons are used for peaceful means, now don`t they ?

Ukraine crisis: US senators urge arms 'to fight Russia'

Leading American senators have called for the US to send weapons to help Ukraine fight what they say is "a Russian invasion".

www.bbc.com...

If senators are calling for America to send weapons to Ukraine, it means they have not sent weapons yet! That makes who the aggressor, then?

They want to send in more sophisticated weapons.

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Here`s our answer about all the "invasion" talk, US needed an excuse to send in weapons.

It`s always the same, and people still claiming US isn`t an aggressor...

Of course weapons are used for peaceful means, now don`t they ?

Ukraine crisis: US senators urge arms 'to fight Russia'

Leading American senators have called for the US to send weapons to help Ukraine fight what they say is "a Russian invasion".

www.bbc.com...

If senators are calling for America to send weapons to Ukraine, it means they have not sent weapons yet! That makes who the aggressor, then?

They want to send in more sophisticated weapons.

More sophisticated weapons would require training, which means Ukraine would need to pull its best troops out of the field. Not going to happen. If Ukraine can actually prove that Russian combat troops are engaging them inside Ukraine, NATO will lend air support. Victor can't wait for that to happen.

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien

originally posted by: DJW001

originally posted by: BornAgainAlien
Here`s our answer about all the "invasion" talk, US needed an excuse to send in weapons.

It`s always the same, and people still claiming US isn`t an aggressor...

Of course weapons are used for peaceful means, now don`t they ?

Ukraine crisis: US senators urge arms 'to fight Russia'

Leading American senators have called for the US to send weapons to help Ukraine fight what they say is "a Russian invasion".

www.bbc.com...

If senators are calling for America to send weapons to Ukraine, it means they have not sent weapons yet! That makes who the aggressor, then?

They want to send in more sophisticated weapons.

More sophisticated weapons would require training, which means Ukraine would need to pull its best troops out of the field. Not going to happen. If Ukraine can actually prove that Russian combat troops are engaging them inside Ukraine, NATO will lend air support. Victor can't wait for that to happen.

That would mean NATO going to fight Russia directly !

I don`t see that happening.

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

According to Putin Russia has no forces in Ukraine so how would it be a direct encounter between NATO and Russia?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

According to Putin Russia has no forces in Ukraine so how would it be a direct encounter between NATO and Russia?

It was according to DJW001 :

If Ukraine can actually prove that Russian combat troops are engaging them inside Ukraine, NATO will lend air support.

You`re trying to frame me about his words, come on now ?

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

Has Ukraine proven that the Russian military are engaged in Ukraine?