Unknown orange/red glow over Pacific Ocean

a reply to: JimObergagreed to not interrupt the thread flow which has been on death watch for weeks now which is how coverup agents prefer it to be...

If anyone on here is keeping up on Lou Baldin's facebook, all things ufology, (Sleeper here on ATS), he called this the serpent crafts basically. So, good enough for me, that must be what it is.

a reply to: DERRUFOafter a week of waiting for answers to some questions,perhaps a member of the Heijt crew who also saw the Lights can give us their impression of what it may have been or what it clearly was not, such as volcano activity deep on the ocean floor. I am no expert but I feel its unlikely the escaping heat steam and gases would make clear visual review of the Lights possible if from internal heat of earth escaping in the Deep. Is there any one who can contact members of the Heijt crew to simply ask them some questions without getting their names if necessary? I have tried to demonstrate increased alien activity on earth. my site is derrufo konepke at google plus. It is a free service.

a reply to: DERRUFO

I find you hard to follow, are you asking for the opinion of the 2 pilots that witnessed the event?
If the answer is yes, please read the thread, you will see that besides me forwarding replies earlier in the thread, at one point the co pilot chimes in.

As the TS I check back with this thread every now and then. I'm hoping the photographer/co-pilot is given an update when the official agencies have it..

a reply to: AnonymousWitnessi wish to thank you for bringing this info in here. as well as contacting the pilot and aiding with translation if needed. I am hard to follow. I have since 9 or 10 days ago referred to the facts of the case. I then added a list of direct and detailed point for point questions. No one has to do any thing but answer those questions. The fact that the people involved with the actual sighting do not answer the questions is all that concerns me. I hope this aids you in my attempts to understand. This past thread you refer to is well done. My questions are about what occurs since those comments were made a Long Time Ago. Apparently I am the only one who is a bit worried by what was seen, you all seem as content as cats with warm milk about the fact there is no followup in the world news or scientific agencies...online...in news sites...I do not seek replies from any one here at the thread. I respectfully asked some questions. If they are not answered I will not in any way be unhappy with the crew. I respect their positions and that if not for them we would have no info (data) at all on this "event" . thank you for replying.

a reply to: DERRUFO
You are not the only one interested in this incident. You are the only one flooding the thread with repeated questions, many of which have already been answered.

Let's have a little patience. The photographer has promised to keep us updated.

a reply to: OpenMindedRealist i near the end of my patience.

a reply to: DERRUFO Time is up. I will now declare for the future in my postings anywhere that these images of Lights seen in the Ocean are an invasion fleet of Alien spaceships to Earth. I will also declare the govts of the world should be openly and publicly investigating and analyzing the images with scientists who study the earth where the ocean floor meets the earth. The opinion of scientists and govt officials on the record would be most helpful to the investigation. If no such activity occurs, if the coverup and blackout of info on this matter continues then we have no other choice but to assume another coverup is underway where it makes no sense. With This kind of force, this many ships, It is no longer a visitation. It is exploitation of earth's resources. It is mining of the oceans. It is colonization perhaps by alien beings, who may introduce their own life forms from their own oceans here. The fact is, what is the point of continued criminal coverup of mankind's own governments when the forces of at least one Alien race are comfortably here now. Why not simply reveal the truth ? I know I will.

a reply to: DERRUFO i am now going to again thank the people who made the images and reported them. You are not being blamed in any way for the lack of info. you are not being criticized for not answering questions. There were many good and well thought out details provided by the crew. Thank you. The ufo cover up enters a new phase where alien fleets are on the waters of earth and govt tries to deliver ways to weaken the USA with ebola, a disaster as president in obama, less restrictive standards on who enters the US military, lack of national borders, it is evident the alien race that invaded the World benefits from a USA that is in chaos, or weakened with disease. Obama aids the Aliens. It is simple. It is clear. The choice now for our planet is before us. Never surrender or give in or obey any govt that has people like obama and his staff as the leaders.

a reply to: DERRUFO

Dude, of course you're entitled to your opinion, but I seriously thought you were ANTI-conspiracy and being SARCASTIC, because your argument is so over the top!

We've discussed good evidence already, including alien arguments. We even got the pilot to share! Your not going to change minds by jamming all this information together, it makes it too hard to follow!

a reply to: tAcAnAvAni appreciate it, a courteous reaction to me. but i am making the comments for FYI reasons only. I do not come here often. Based on the spooky before Halloween reaction of this site to THIS topic, with the pilot having had the noble dignity to come here, and yet no analysis comments on the profile of the images. how the sphere lights are in their segregated geometric areas in the pic...meaning even an amateur ufo researcher can see the formations of singular ships...5 here etc 5 there..any ways...no i am not coming back here. i left these comments for people. I do not expect this site to change. AS i said Halloween is coming. Watching this thread self destruct was for me, a researcher, former air force guy, with over 22 years involvement in researching the coverup , i was very entertained. you can never imagine how much. when i got the word on the event it was already 3 weeks past the date it happened. Late to the party but watching the chill of coverup fall on this thread was most entertaining. Knights Bridge is where i stand. This debate need not feed itself to make me happy. Online. It's the idea behind it all you see...The site reads Above Top Secret yet no one will dare post. I am the only "spammer" you see. Ha ha. end of comment.

a reply to: DERRUFO As a courtesy to this website i am sharing some basic findings i think so far is okay to mention. The Lights are moving in the same direction as the airliner at the time of the image recording process. The reason for this undeveloped finding is the simple matter of comparing some of the other images Pilot H. has taken with the exposure times involved and you do see streaking of lights sources overland *( note the winnipeg image for example) or others. There is very little streaking of the lights in the ocean. If the Lights were in motion they are not necessarily ufos but it does shorten the list of choices. end.

People.. at the moment I am on a much-needed vacation after a very stressful time. I have decided to take a little distance from all the photos/sighting for a few days since I have been overwhelmed by hundreds of people and requests and it was just a bit too much at one point.
I will come back to you when I have more information and to answer some questions. Just give me a few days.
Currently a Frenchman is conducting a thorough investigation on the original (.nef) files, if he is finished I will share his findings/report.

DERRUFO; I read your email that you sent to my private email-adres earlier today. You have lost all my goodwill and respect, I will not answer any of your questions anymore. How dare you lecture me on how to live life.
Oh and please... stop spamming this thread with your unreadable posts. Maybe somebody from this site can just put an end to this?

originally posted by: jpcvanheijst
People.. at the moment I am on a much-needed vacation after a very stressful time. I have decided to take a little distance from all the photos/sighting for a few days since I have been overwhelmed by hundreds of people and requests and it was just a bit too much at one point.
I will come back to you when I have more information and to answer some questions. Just give me a few days.
Currently a Frenchman is conducting a thorough investigation on the original (.nef) files, if he is finished I will share his findings/report.

DERRUFO; I read your email that you sent to my private email-adres earlier today. You have lost all my goodwill and respect, I will not answer any of your questions anymore. How dare you lecture me on how to live life.
Oh and please... stop spamming this thread with your unreadable posts. Maybe somebody from this site can just put an end to this?

Thanks for the update.
Enjoy the vacation.
Pay no attention to the spam.

I too have been flicking back and just looking for an update !
Just to read derrufo talking bs to his self which has derailed it !
Which is disappointing as this thread was epic !
But hope it picks up again without derrufo !
Peace.

a reply to: DERRUFO i only reply to myself.i refuse to deal with those who are acting like they care when its all a Lie. i am over this topic as a scientific investigation. i now will review it as it comes up in news reports in the future if lights are seen and imaged by others at sea or in the air. i am german dutch myself. but i will not respond to the non issue comments. you see the best way to deny or deflect attention to an issue they all want to hide is to attack the messenger. At least like i said i moved on. the light sources were 25 kilometers X 15 kilometers and seen in same amount of radiant energy for 30 minutes and you fools discuss me instead. shame shame shame on you all... haha i am over this issue now... i do not care. but after the revolution i will dine in the kings chambers and kitchens !@

Ok I'm back and hopefully adding something useful to this thread again

- Two independent persons are having a closer look at the images in the coming weeks, including the following group of people www.ipaco.fr...
Im interested in their findings and their possible verdicts on what we saw there. Future reports will be shared here.

- I don't know if I stated it before, but 3 independent organizations looked into their recordings and NONE of them found any electrical discharge (lightning strike) hours before and after our sighting, with a radius of about 500km/250Nm of the lights.
(Departments of Earth and Space Sciences, and Physics, University of Washington - The United States Precision Lightning Network and the World Wide Lightning Network).
Making the lightflash we saw earlier even stranger, since it was very likely not a lightning strike.

- I have received photos from 3 different pilots that took shots from groups of red lights over the Pacific Ocean in the last two months.
Though the lights look much less bright and a lot smaller then what we saw, the size of the total cluster of lights is about the same of our sighting. This could be a strong indication that its actually a fishing fleet, although I cannot explain the red color they are using, since this is totally useless for attracting fish. Any ideas about these new shots are welcome.

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- On September 19th, I flew the same route between Hongkong and Alaska. Before the flight we read the NOTAMs (Notice To AirMen) that includes information about the route, airspace, beacons etc etc.
One of the notams was the closure of a large part of airspace South of Kamchatka for Russian Navy rocket tests. I have marked the closed area on the navigation chart and uploaded it to my own gallery/blog on pbase.

Here the links to the images since I cannot add any images to my posts here, for some reason.

The notam text itself;
www.pbase.com...

And the chart with the marked area and the route we flew on August 24th (red line);
www.pbase.com...

This 'could' be an indication that there is actually a lot of military activity going on these days on those waters.

a reply to: DERRUFO NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS HEIJST YOU ARE STILL A HERO .

a reply to: jpcvanheijst
JP, I certainly hope you have contacted Dr. Richard Haines of NARCAP. He specializes in pilot sightings of all kinds. I'm pretty sure this event will grab his attention.

He recently spoke at the CNES-GEIPAN conference last July. The conference is mostly in French but several papers, videos and PDFs are in English. Dr. Jacques Vallee also spoke (in English).

www.cnes-geipan.fr...

A member here, called elevenaugust is also a member of IPACO.

All the best
guyx

a reply to: gguyx

Thanks for your reply. elevenaugust (IPACO) is currently looking into the original high-res images and whenever they will publish any results I'll share them here with you.