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Pentagon: Chinese Fighter Jet Flew Dangerously Close To U.S. Aircraft

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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 01:38 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
I do find the US complaining is a bit rich considering their continued abuse of actual sovereign airspace across the entire globe. But then, bullies often complain.

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Well maybe I am wrong. Please show me where the US has intentionally sent fighters dangerously close to China's aircraft.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 02:27 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Well maybe I am wrong. Please show me where the US has intentionally sent fighters dangerously close to China's aircraft.




Based on the account of Wang Wei's wingman, the Chinese government stated that the American plane "veered at a wide angle towards the Chinese", in the process ramming the J-8.


It depends on who you believe!

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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 02:37 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: OccamsRazor04



Well maybe I am wrong. Please show me where the US has intentionally sent fighters dangerously close to China's aircraft.




Based on the account of Wang Wei's wingman, the Chinese government stated that the American plane "veered at a wide angle towards the Chinese", in the process ramming the J-8.


It depends on who you believe!

P

Last I checked it was intercepted by the J-8's. Which means even if the Chinese version is true (which is doubtful) it means the J-8's intentionally came in on the US plane and got close. Either way it does not show what you want it to. In fact it strengthens the position that the Chinese do this regularly.

The U.S. released video footage from previous missions which revealed that American reconnaissance crews had previously been intercepted by Lt. Cdr. Wang. During one such incident, he was shown approaching so close that his e-mail address could be read from a sign that he was holding up



the Chinese government refuses to release data from the black boxes of either plane, both of which are in its possession


Thank you for offering proof that the US does not do this and that China does it regularly.
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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 07:37 AM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I have to disagree. All countries that have the means do this.

They do this on a regular basis.

They have all been playing chicken for decades.

In the air and under the water, the game is played and will continue to be played.

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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 07:43 AM
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originally posted by: pheonix358
a reply to: OccamsRazor04

I have to disagree. All countries that have the means do this.

They do this on a regular basis.

They have all been playing chicken for decades.

In the air and under the water, the game is played and will continue to be played.

P

Right or wrong all I said was show a source for your claim, and you ended up sourcing the fact China does this all the time.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 07:45 AM
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originally posted by: iamhobo
How dare the Chinese fly too close to a foreign surveillance aircraft in the East China Sea.

For shame!!


I guess the Gulf of Mexico and the Arabian sea belong to those two respectively.


Doh!!!



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 07:55 AM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69

originally posted by: iamhobo
How dare the Chinese fly too close to a foreign surveillance aircraft in the East China Sea.

For shame!!


I guess the Gulf of Mexico and the Arabian sea belong to those two respectively.


Doh!!!

South America must belong to America.

Stay in school kids.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 07:59 AM
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originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

South America must belong to America.



It does.

The "Americas" North, Central and South America


Were you trying to imply that it belongs to the United States of 'America"



Stay in school kids


Agreed



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:11 AM
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a reply to: greatfriendbadfoe

Slow news day.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:12 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

And I'll point you to the passage in the article international airspace. That means that the US plane has every right to be there without interference.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:13 AM
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a reply to: pheonix358

Right, because a P-3, with a crew of 14 people on board is going to be playing games like that, and deliberately going to try to shove a fighter out of the way, and risk everyone on board.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 11:46 AM
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at least none of their planes disappeared like 370



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 01:26 PM
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a reply to: SLAYER69
a reply to: Zaphod58

Obviously it's international waters, it's based more on principle. Don't think for a second the US wouldn't buzz a Chinese surveillance plane in the central Gulf of Mexico.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 01:31 PM
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a reply to: iamhobo

Actually, the US doesn't buzz like this. They escort, but they learned a long time ago that buzzing causes accidents. The near accidents and shoot downs got to the point they signed an actual treaty with Russia as to how intercepts are handled, by both sides. Regardless of if they were Russian or Chinese aircraft, they are intercepted the same way.



posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: OccamsRazor04

yeah stay in school yourself America is the North , Central and South america .. and nope America is not your contry ! dont forget you are just some United States IN the america !
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posted on Aug, 23 2014 @ 06:07 PM
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originally posted by: SLAYER69

originally posted by: OccamsRazor04

South America must belong to America.



It does.

The "Americas" North, Central and South America


Were you trying to imply that it belongs to the United States of 'America"



Stay in school kids


Agreed

I think you missed the point. The poster claimed the East China Sea has China in it, so it belongs to China. Much like saying South America has America in it .. so it must belong to that country everyone calls America.

Clearly it doesn't, because that's not how it works. Names do not convey ownership.



posted on Aug, 29 2014 @ 01:14 PM
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It was a P-8A Poseidon belonging to VP-16 from Jacksonville, FL. They're currently deployed to Okinawa. They were in international airspace, 135 miles east of Hainan, where they've been monitoring the situation around the disputed islands in the area. A Chinese Su-27 intercepted them, and performed a barrel roll over the top of them, approaching within 50 feet.

theaviationist.com...

Interesting that they were carrying Harpoon warshots during their patrol.
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posted on Aug, 29 2014 @ 01:21 PM
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I imagine they are very interested in the Poseidon.

Interesting that is VP-16, this makes it a bit personal. I was at NAS JAX in the AIMD(now FRC) at hanger 1000, home to several VP squads.



posted on Aug, 29 2014 @ 01:33 PM
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a reply to: jrod

They've been busy with them since they got them. They've been all over Asia and the Pacific with them. First to deploy, they've been to Japan, Australia, Korea, Hawaii. They're coming up on 9 months overseas with them. Another squadron (VP-5 IIRC) is preparing to deploy on their first overseas mission, and a third is in the process of transitioning to the Poseidon.

Australia just announced a purchase of 8, with an option for four additional through the USN FMS office as well.
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posted on Aug, 29 2014 @ 01:45 PM
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Wait, so the Chinese were "communicating/keeping up foreign relations" like we taught them to via Top Gun and we have a problem with that?



Am I the only one picturing that this is what actually happened?




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