Breaking: Whistle blower at CDC recants study "disproving" vaccine autism link.

Please watch this before it goes away.
link to vid

I've just seen this this morning. When we get a whistle blower, the corporate blockade on information breaks. This may be a whale.

Hot topic. What part of the Vaccine is damaging children? There could be a few mechanisms. It's by no means clear. Objective scientific study is the only way to know the answer.

Spent science from within the US has failed us badly. Whistleblowers are my heroes.

We need more.

The smearing of Andrew Wakefied will arrive soon. Before you buy the smear, and it's superficial at that, watch the vid and convince yourself he's unethical or a liar or selfish. You can't'do it. Well maybe you can, but I can't.

This is a quick one. A video posted at the autism media channel names William Thompson, PhD, as the whistleblower. His name is also posted at Age of Autism.

Thompson was indeed one of the authors of the 2004 De Stefano study that is accused of hiding the link between the MMR vaccine and autism.

a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
So every peer reviewed science paper done fails to find a link but you will believe an anonymous unverified whistleblower?
Its not smearing of Wakefield it is statement of fact.

Good link. S&F It will probably disappear.

a reply to: ScepticScot

Not worth a reply. You need to read.

There may or may not be a link between the MMR vaccine. I myself believe there is something going on with vaccines and it probably has nothing to do with any particular vaccine and everything to do with the number and frequency. The new financial frontier for big pharma companies is vaccines. They are trying to push vaccination for everything from cancer to allergies to dementia etc. It's ridiculous.

I've done quite a bit of research on the pertussis vaccine and it's an abject dismal failure from a vaccine standpoint. THE toxin from the bacteria they now know is responsible for the actual infective process and one in which the body has a hard time clearing initially is adenylate cyclase toxin. It actually attaches to the cilia in the lungs and tricks the body's immune system. However, eventually the host overcomes this toxin and clears it. Hence, why the vaccine doesn't work. It has ZERO ACT IN IT! So not only are people, including highly vaccinated children still getting whoopping cough, the natural antibodies produced from people exposed to the natural form of it is not happening. I.e. mothers are not producing any antibodies to it, only to the vaccine. Vaccination is NOT immunization and vaccine antibodies are not the same as natural acquired antibodies.

Most infections occur via the mucosal immune system. I .e. the linging of the gut, our nasal passages, the layers of the lungs. This part of the immune system is just now becoming apparent in how important it is in fighting off infections. Injecting a vaccine directly into the blood bypasses this entire mechanism.

Bottolime, is we have NO CLUE really how the immune system functions in its entirety. It's probably the least understood and researched system in the body, while the most complex. But yeah let's inject our precious children with 30+ vaccines by the time they are 16. Makes sense to me!

a reply to: ScepticScot

There is new research being done as to the effect of multiple vaccines causing a few conditions to occur, one of them being autism. This research is being evaluated in Europe to validate the results.

Now if you only consider each vaccine on an individual basis, there will not be evidence to show that that vaccine alone is doing harm or causing anything to happen. It creates a storm of chemicals when multiple vaccines are taken, which spirals into a protective state which causes problems.

I read the research, it seems very probable that it can do this. Europe does not recommend all the vaccines that they do here, so their problems will probably be less. Try evaluating that here in America with the four times as many vaccines being recommended or required.

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
So every peer reviewed science paper done fails to find a link but you will believe an anonymous unverified whistleblower?
Its not smearing of Wakefield it is statement of fact.

1) plenty of research done has found a significant link
2) the whilstle blower is apparently William Thompson

Video explains it all.

originally posted by: GreenMtnBoys
Bottolime, is we have NO CLUE really how the immune system functions in its entirety. It's probably the least understood and researched system in the body, while the most complex. But yeah let's inject our precious children with 30+ vaccines by the time they are 16. Makes sense to me!

Lol excellent post! That's what the average Joe fails to understand, they think scientists are like gods because they lack advanced scientific knowledge themselves. They think our understanding of the human body is 99% complete, when in fact it's more like 0.01% complete. Scientists truly don't understand the full repercussions of injecting young children with such a high number of vaccines.

There is significant evidence and research showing that vaccines to in fact cause neurological inflammation. And neurological inflammation may or may not have a link to autism, but in and of itself it's a serious concerning risk of vaccination. They are starting to realize how detrimental maternal stress is to a baby's developing brain inside the womb. I don't know what causes autism. But I think people that parrot the cause as better diagnosis are idiots sorry. That is such a small aspect of the rise in austism. Just look at all the rise in behavioral problems such as ADHD. The health of kids and robustness in my opinion has changed even in my lifetime. Kids are not only vaccinated like a pin cushion but eat like crap. All the junkfood marketed towards children is disgusting. And you know what…..how many corporate parents, moms and dads, that work for these pathetic corporations like Kellogs, Kraft etc. that market all this crap but would never feed it to their own kids. That's what gets me the most. That's how it is in every industry nowadays. It's like the pediatricians that will follow the vaccination schedule for everyone else's kid but when it comes to their own are starting to wake up and question things. I've talked to a few ped doctors and they are SEEING it in their offices. The different between vaccinated and unvaccinated kids. There are some kids who may not be affected as far as we know as children, but many are. And we have no clue what these vaccines are attributing to later in life.

originally posted by: InverseLookingGlass
The smearing of Andrew Wakefied will arrive soon. Before you buy the smear, and it's superficial at that, watch the vid and convince yourself he's unethical or a liar or selfish. You can't'do it. Well maybe you can, but I can't.

I can tell already that you follow this subject with the eyes of an eagle....

No need for any smears to start soon, Wakefield was struck off by the GMC and his paper revoked many years ago now...

en.wikipedia.org...

MMR doctor 'to face GMC charges'

ANDREW WAKEFIELD, the former surgeon whose campaign linking the MMR vaccine with autism caused a collapse in immunisation rates, was paid more than £400,000 by lawyers trying to prove that the vaccine was unsafe.

Surprise, surprise! Andrew Wakefield was paid by lawyers to undermine the MMR vaccine

The sources are endless, and all many years old now...

I don't know if the vaccines cause it or if they do something like awaken genes that were dormant or something. But I do know that when I was an infant, I was given one of these vaccines and I nearly died the same day. A fever of 103 degrees and the doctors even told my parents that they should prepare for my death. I recovered but as my family said, I was a different baby after that day. Who knows but I know my lifelong OCD, depression, anxiety, constant issues with embarrassment, clumsiness, awkwardness, strange speech patterns, obsessions with certain subjects, and I was shy, hypersensitive to heat, sweat, nothing can be around my wrists or ankles, no tight clothing, rants, outbursts, intolerance to stress, etc......

Was diagnosed as Asperger's when I was 15. Put on the dreaded, addictive anti-depressants and suffered in misery for years. Hypothetically speaking in college someone discovered something like cannabis to ease the symptoms and well to be honest, no one knows the person has it unless they tell someone. The symptoms are still there but they're controlled through a form of self-analysis brought on by the effects of cannabis.

I commend that person though, they knew how to safely help themselves.

Me? Still an Aspie

Have you read the comments under that video?

The comment re horizontal interference? Where older siblings and breast feeding can interfere with the immunization? That's very interesting.

I'm going to further examine this. Both of my children are on the spectrum. So, this is certainly worth my time and effort.

Plenty of replies stating there is evidence linking vaccinations to autism and not a single link to peer reviewed paper, strange..

a reply to: rickymouse
Two separate issues.
There has never been any proven connection between mmr and autism and it has now been widely and extensively studied.
Is it possible that too many vaccinations are given in the US, not seen any research confirming but is certainly possible. All vaccinations are about risk assessment. Balancing the risk of the original disease against the risk of side effects. There I possibly a good argument that more things you vaccinate against the more the balance can tip.

a reply to: ScepticScot

There won't be any proven connection if you do not allow the evidence that proves it to be relevent. MMR is one of many of the vaccines that when combined cause this condition to occur. So which of the twenty or more necessary vaccines should you cut down here to bring them down to the safe five total vaccinations or less?

Remember, there are three in MMR so that means that you should not possibly have another vaccine for a year to keep this problem from occurring. When they get the particulars on this all figured out it will be a good day. Knowing the FDA and the ones making these vaccines, they will not accept the research and if it is not accepted, it will not be applicable as proof.

a reply to: rickymouse
Again where is the evidence to support this? Why 5 safe vaccinations? What makes you think mmr combines with other vaccinations to cause autism? it is not a case of people not accepting research it is that there is an absence of research supporting the claims you are making.

Breaking: CDC whistleblower Thompson in grave danger now

William W Thompson, PhD…the CDC whistleblower…was escorted off the premises of the CDC campus yesterday afternoon. This is what a source has just told me. Therefore, the CDC knows Thompson is the whistleblower. He’s in danger. I’ve also been told that the Autism Media Channel, which had posted the video revealing Thompson’s name and outing him, is gone. The site is suddenly gone.

Source and updates

a reply to: dreamingawake

most whistle-blowers end up being found dead...'majority of them suddenly are diagnosed with depression and commit suicide.'

has anyone seen the thread on all the 'dead' scientists' on ATS?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

how bloody convenient!!

originally posted by: ChaoticOrder

originally posted by: ScepticScot
a reply to: InverseLookingGlass
So every peer reviewed science paper done fails to find a link but you will believe an anonymous unverified whistleblower?
Its not smearing of Wakefield it is statement of fact.

1) plenty of research done has found a significant link.

Can you post the link to the peer-reviewed studies that have withstood the scrutiny of the wider scientific community?

There isn't one randomized, double blind, placebo controlled study comparing vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids.