Mike Brown may have paid for cigars, the storeowners never called 911.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

i see you can't argue with logic so you resort to calling the man names.
question, if you just had your face smashed in by a punk and when you got out of your car and he rushes you and you have a gun are you gonna stand there and let him beat you again, or are you gonna shoot?

even cops have a right to self defense.

Uh.. if the man you are referring to is the cop, then what the hell are you talking about. I'm not arguing with him at all.

originally posted by: TorqueyThePig
a reply to: hammanderr

Did GoGo accuse you of making blanket statements?

That is rich coming from someone who says "patrol officers are nothing but low IQ tax collecters."

That is so hypocritical.

Pot meet keetle...

No it's not. It's a fact. That's what they are. It is a fact that police departments hire patrolmen with lower iq's, and it is a fact that they are tax collectors.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: GogoVicMorrow


even cops have a right to self defense.

There was nothing to defend himself against.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: hammanderr

I said potentially and i am right.

Listen man, I am an extreme conservative libertarian. So no I don't play the race card.
But when someone calls me a thug apologist because i argue against an unarmed man being killed by a crooked cop then yeah I have to wonder when they are calling that man a thug, etc, without knowing him.

If he was a white guy and did the same thing I know for a fact you wouldn't have called him a ghetto thug.

I would agree with the assessment of you being a bit of a thug apologist. And even more so based on your statement above. You say an "unarmed man" then say a "crooked cop". When in actuality it should be "a strong armed robber" and "a cop that I know nothing about other than he killed a known criminal". Please show me something anywhere that shows this cop is crooked. I think you have seen the video at this point of Brown being a criminal thug.

It amuses me how people can call this unjustified and for that matter justified when all we are doing is speculating based on rumor and innuendo.

None of the facts presented show conclusively one way or the other at this time.

All the speculation and such is what's causing the rabble and with additional people being hurt it is my opinion the riots are in violation of our constitutional right to assemble.

So in this case violence begets violence.

Peace out

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow
You have to realize that it is not as common to have white ghettos as it is to have black ghettos. Is that not true? Since I know that to be a fact, the title of ghetto thug is appropriate when speaking of black criminals. It's simple logic...

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

there you go being disingenuous, stop playing like you don't know what i'm saying.
your arguing a point that doesn't hold water.

I really made this thread to discuss the fact that the store owner didn't make a call, and that we as a people should request the anonymous 911 call that led to this kids death, but unfortunately the thread filled up with cop worshipers and people with race issues. So we can't have an actual discussion.

I've held my own against a move of insulting people long enough. I'll come back when you guys are at recess and try again.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

there you go being disingenuous, stop playing like you don't know what i'm saying.
your arguing a point that doesn't hold water.

No I am absolutely not. You aren't making sense. You said I was resorting to name calling instead of arguing logically, but i wasn't arguing because the person i was calling names is the officer that as far as I know isn't in this thread.

originally posted by: Mikeultra
a reply to: GogoVicMorrow
You have to realize that it is not as common to have white ghettos as it is to have black ghettos. Is that not true? Since I know that to be a fact, the title of ghetto thug is appropriate when speaking of black criminals. It's simple logic...

You know that to be fact.
Well I'm very excited to meet the man that makes facts.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
I really made this thread to discuss the fact that the store owner didn't make a call, and that we as a people should request the anonymous 911 call that led to this kids death, but unfortunately the thread filled up with cop worshipers and people with race issues. So we can't have an actual discussion.

I've held my own against a move of insulting people long enough. I'll come back when you guys are at recess and try again.

No, what you have shown is a story that the owner claims he did not make the call....nothing based in fact yet on that one. And maybe the owner didn't make the call....maybe the store employee did as other witnesses have stated. The call did not lead to his death.....his actions lead to his death. Love it when people try to blame someone doing the right thing for the entire incident. How about a crazy suggestion here.....don't be a criminal and bad things won't happen to you.

originally posted by: Vasa Croe

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: hammanderr

I said potentially and i am right.

Listen man, I am an extreme conservative libertarian. So no I don't play the race card.
But when someone calls me a thug apologist because i argue against an unarmed man being killed by a crooked cop then yeah I have to wonder when they are calling that man a thug, etc, without knowing him.

If he was a white guy and did the same thing I know for a fact you wouldn't have called him a ghetto thug.

I would agree with the assessment of you being a bit of a thug apologist. And even more so based on your statement above. You say an "unarmed man" then say a "crooked cop". When in actuality it should be "a strong armed robber" and "a cop that I know nothing about other than he killed a known criminal". Please show me something anywhere that shows this cop is crooked. I think you have seen the video at this point of Brown being a criminal thug.

Give me one example of me being a "thug apologist."

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

There was nothing to defend himself against.

they have hospital records of the cop being treated for injuries.
there are witness statements that the thug charged him, after punching him in the face while he was still in the car.

what was the cop suppose to think this big ol thug is coming to play patty cakes with him. or he is running at him to surrender. please stop trying to play like you know that he wasn't doing anything other than trying to surrender.

originally posted by: GogoVicMorrow
a reply to: hammanderr

You guys are so phobic of black people. If he works in that neighborhood and deals with that kinda stuff he'd have no problem calling the cops if he felt like he needed to.

The kid was a punk, but he was an 18 year old college student a week away from starting classes. He was acting like an ass, but how can you say he deserved to die for that?

I'd like to see evidence that he was actually about to start college, have you seen admission papers? An acceptance letter? I haven't.

Apparently he had plans to possibly attend Vatterot college. It's a for profit, technical college. Literally anyone can go at any time. All due respect to technical colleges and graduates, but let's not pretend that Michael had been accepted into an actual collegiate program. He didn't take an SAT or gain entrance to a university.

Can you produce any evidence that he was going to start school in a week? Cause I'm gonna start quitting smoking in a week, just like I've been planning to for years.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

Makes thread with his opinion.

People present counter arguement to his opinion.

Gets mad a people for presenting said logical counter arguement.

Results to personal ad hominem attacks against me the "low IQ tax collecter."

Calls others racist.

Leaves thread because he is upset and in the process again results to ad hominem attacks.

That sounds about right.

But hey, what do I know? Iz beez jus a low iQ tax collecta.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow
Yes you really put your foot in your mouth. Think twice before starting a criminal apologist thread. Law abiding citizens are fed up with criminals and their supporters. Try to get some sleep and come back when you're better rested.

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

ok ok you win i don't make any sense to you but i'm willing to bet others know exactly what i meant.

i guess others are just dim witted hunh?

a reply to: GogoVicMorrow

Ok...your thread title. There is no MAY about it....he stole them. Apologist doesn't mean directly apologizing for Brown's behavior, it is more of a sympathizer. I have none for him If he hadn't committed a crime he would not be in this situation....or I guess I could say Non-situation since he isn't around anymore.

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Come on now, not dim witted.

"Low IQ." (As I bow to GoGo's avatar)

a reply to: TorqueyThePig

that's right.
i misspoke.