An Army in Ferguson tonight! Sporadic Twitter/Facebook censoring of #Ferguson hashtag

a reply to: Kram09

That's why they're called GAMES. If you don't like them, don't buy them for yourself or your kids. I think there's a little bit of a bigger issue here then crying about what types of entertainment is available on the market currently. Besides, those games are rated M for reason. It's meant to be played by someone who realizes that, yes, it's only a game and no, you shouldn't mimic it in real life.

Kind of unrelated in my opinion.

originally posted by: WhiteAlice
with a degree of cynicism that he didn't condemn a whole lot of similar activity against Occupy nationwide.

I got that notion too. I was sort of let down by the fact that he didn't really state who was going to be taking over the policing in the area, or even address why/who was the seemingly military force that was present last night.

Nothing to see here, move along folks.

:-(

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Thank You! Shared and retweeted...

Obama even chastised the Ferguson LEO for the their heavy handed tactics today. They keep replaying it on MSM....

Des

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Every town around has those "Toys". They have had them for YEARS. They typically only come out to fairs, and parades. Kids can check them all out and oooo and ahhh over them. Most towns have retired military stuff. They didn't actually buy them for fairs and parades, but for scenarios like this. Go figure! Crazy right?

Now for that whole "protect and serve" thing... All those people in that town are citizens, yet some are being robbed, having their businesses that they worked hard for destroyed, cars destroyed. They can't go to the store because there are people out there doing all sorts of crazy things. All this is being done by the other citizens. So who is it you want them to protect and serve??

As much as you hate the police, you can't have it both ways. You can't be upset that they did nothing while people rioted AND upset that they are doing something about it.

a reply to: parad0x122

That's why they're called GAMES. If you don't like them, don't buy them for yourself or your kids. I think there's a little bit of a bigger issue here then crying about what types of entertainment is available on the market currently. Besides, those games are rated M for reason. It's meant to be played by someone who realizes that, yes, it's only a game and no, you shouldn't mimic it in real life.

Kind of unrelated in my opinion.

It's not unrelated at all. They may be rated M, but that doesn't make any difference these days. If you see the way these games affect a lot of young people, for example playing Call of Duty and the amount of aggression they display.

Of course not all people are like that but there are a substantial number. They'll see militarized police as "the norm" and think it's all just acceptable.

a reply to: zysin5

What we actually have here is a failure to communicate, no seriously in my opinion this is a situation where conspiracy breaks down we have so many angles here.. Are we to believe that al jezeera in its dislike for america set up a situation where they where targeted by american police! The outrage! No wait they are targeting all news stations this is an attack on freedom of press! The outrage! no they are targeting minoritys and there community peaceful protest! the outrage! what we really have here is a police force not trained properly to deal with these type of sensitive issues the lines of right and wrong are being infringed upon, we also have a cynical and pissed off american public ready to jump on any issue to show its outrage. This is a sad situation, hopefully its a means to an end.

a reply to: TechniXcality

what we really have here is a police force not trained properly to deal with these type of sensitive issues the lines of right and wrong are being infringed upon, we also have a cynical and pissed off american public ready to jump on any issue to show its outrage.

I'd give ya a big cookie for that one, if there were a way to Email one. It's the thought that counts..eh?

I think you hit it closer and probably more accurate to the reality of what has been happening on the ground than even those on the ground trying to describe each other.

a reply to: mrsdudara

You can call LTL (less than lethal) weapons "toys" all day long but I daresay that not many on these boards are going to pick up the usage of calling them "toys" here. Usually toys that leave very large breaks in the skin get recalled so these are clearly not meant for children. And you're right. I've seen these weapons before. I saw them in multiple cities during the Occupy protests where one young Iraq vet nearly died from a LTL weapon. He has brain damage instead. Lucky guy.

I've never once seen these weapons at a fair or parade. In fact, the only time I've seen anything resembling what was in Ferguson was actually in East Germany in 1987. Let me tell you, East Germany in 1987 was SCARY.

And one more thing. I do NOT hate the police. Nice try there. I am quite open in my appreciation for the police department that saved my life about 20 years ago. I wouldn't be here if it weren't for their quick wits, instincts and efforts. You're totally barking up the wrong tree there but I'm sure you'd really like to stereotype me as being yet another "cop hater". Why? Because I'm a problem, aren't I?

Instead, I'm a concerned citizen that appreciates good police officers and departments but I also know that it is my duty to question what I find questionable without fear of recrimination or being accused of being a "cop hater". I'm not a coward who fears being labelled when I see injustice occurring.

a reply to: openyourmind1262

Yep you're right, I am racist... within reason. If you had seen even a fraction of the things I've seen in my life, you would be too, and you wouldn't be ashamed of it.

I can't wait for pictures of your star witness looting a store to surface.

Obviously, if the police video backed up the story police are telling, it would have been released to prevent what is occurring. They are doing as they have done for decades, with the exception that the more they try to control the flow of information, truth and thought - the more turn against them.

Looting and burning of things that can be replaced rebuilt are a minor nuisance when compared with the continued immoral (criminal) behavior by authorities in MO. In the end, without commerce the public servants salaries will not be paid nor will retirees pensions be met.

Police live in regular houses, have go to sleep sometime like the rest of us, and they have children in public schools so regardless of how armed they are or scary they look they know they're as vulnerable as the rest of us thus I don't expect any more killing. The behavior we are seeing by police is their worldwide brotherhood manual of how to murder, lie, go home at night and feel good about yourself. It is what is.

The cat is out of the bag, their usual partners in crime the msm have split thanks to technology. Authorities have arrested at least two journalists, fired bean bags at professional camera crews and taken their cameras, created a no-fly zone to keep news aircraft from reporting the truth .

Has any one PAID any attention to the fact the looters who got busted were not Ferguson residents all were from out of town ?

Does it even matter since your narrative is already made cant confuse yourselves with facts can we.

originally posted by: kruphix
a reply to: SubTruth

The force they are showing up with is not in line with the founding principles of this country. This is not a war front it is an American city for god's sake.

Really?

Is that why George Washington marched the United States army on a group of farmers for refusing to pay their taxes???

You should look into the Whiskey Rebellion...and then rethink your statement.

Or you could look into Shay's Rebellion, and what Thomas Jefferson said about it:

I hold it that a little rebellion now and then is a good thing, and as necessary in the political world as storms in the physical. Unsuccessful rebellions, indeed, generally establish the encroachments on the rights of the people which have produced them. An observation of this truth should render honest republican governors so mild in their punishment of rebellions as not to discourage them too much. It is a medicine necessary for the sound health of government.

SOURCE

a reply to: Bone75

If you are admitting to being racist, are racist, and are purporting your BS here on ATS then I suggest you leave now before you get thrown out. Your views are extremely ignorant and not wanted here at ALL.

a reply to: Cito

if they have a video of Michael Brown’s body being shoved into the back of a police department SUV i think it should be brought to the light as soon as possible. It will make a world of a difference in my opinion.
I understand that it will cause an outrage that might lead to a manhunt. But you cant just hold these things back like that, very childish of anonymous if any of this is true

a reply to: WhiteAlice

Im amazed at the ordnance,policing starts at the state level in Australia,in my state the police have disolved all the outlaw biker gangs and run them out of the state with just pistols and nightsticks,yes there is a riot squad and mounted police but they have nothing like the kit on display here only the anti-terror squad and rapid reaction team(swat) has these sort of weapons and they are only deployed in emergencies...talk about overkill.

originally posted by: ElOmen
a reply to: Cito

if they have a video of Michael Brown’s body being shoved into the back of a police department SUV i think it should be brought to the light as soon as possible. It will make a world of a difference in my opinion.
I understand that it will cause an outrage that might lead to a manhunt. But you cant just hold these things back like that, very childish of anonymous if any of this is true

The first couple of pages everyone is 100% on the protesters side, then slowly people start popping up
claiming they can see reason in the cops behavior because of riots.
Please do not start for one second accepting this as reasonable the cops are showing this behavior to PROTESTERS not RIOTERS!, This is peaceful people gathering on the streets, not thugs smashing businesses up they are shoving around!
Stop trying to find reason in this! It is unjust it's as simple as that people. If it was you who shot an unarmed civilian you would right now as you are reading this be in jail, so explain do we hold the same human rights as a police officer does...? All the pieces fit for a reason, this is why when you type "cop [insert negative behavior]" You will find HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of videos but if you type "Civilian beats cop up" or something you might be lucky to find 20/30.

This whole thing needs to be fixed WITHOUT any violence, we need good to overcome bad and right now those cops are bad, they are in the wrong. I would like to see how some civilian arrests would go down, those protesters need to start handcuffing these police!

a reply to: scghst1

I'm well aware of my boundaries. If you ever have the pleasure of being held at gunpoint and urinated on while your friend is being raped in the bathroom because "dis how ya'll did us", then I'd say you've earned the right to criticize my racism.

Until then, If you have a specific point that you found extremely ignorant, I'd love to hear it.

originally posted by: mrsdudara
a reply to: WhiteAlice

Every town around has those "Toys". They have had them for YEARS. They typically only come out to fairs, and parades. Kids can check them all out and oooo and ahhh over them. Most towns have retired military stuff. They didn't actually buy them for fairs and parades, but for scenarios like this. Go figure! Crazy right?

Now for that whole "protect and serve" thing... All those people in that town are citizens, yet some are being robbed, having their businesses that they worked hard for destroyed, cars destroyed. They can't go to the store because there are people out there doing all sorts of crazy things. All this is being done by the other citizens. So who is it you want them to protect and serve??

As much as you hate the police, you can't have it both ways. You can't be upset that they did nothing while people rioted AND upset that they are doing something about it.

I do not hate the police in the past I have been a huge supporter of LEO's on ATS. Something has change in the very fabric of the US. I think the police state is just a symptom of a much greater disease that will continue to spread.


Maybe people in general have changed and it is hard to see until a reference point is made. Police need to wear cameras 24/7 while on duty. That data streams to cloud and cannot be tampered with or deleted.