Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

Of course the US dosent care its exports of food to Russia is less than 1 bill so basically almost no pain. The main export from US being chickens... which will only hurt US chicken farmers. Brazil has quickly lined up for the chicken Russian business to support their local chicken farmers. Brazil and NZ have also lined up to replace Finland's milk exports to Russia.

Russia is however the EU's largest food market worth 10's of billions. That is where the pain will be.

Russia can feed itself its just cheaper and easier to import from Europe all that will come of this situation is prolonged cold war like political tensions until the western elites decide they want their business back and then sanctions will be lifted.

Never underestimate the Russian people they are resilient, committed and tough Putin knows this and he knows his people wont cry out for MacDonald’s and iphones they will just eat turnips and tins of Spam and do it with pride.

originally posted by: brianporter
Russia can feed itself its just cheaper and easier to import from Europe all that will come of this situation is prolonged cold war like political tensions until the western elites decide they want their business back and then sanctions will be lifted.

Never underestimate the Russian people they are resilient, committed and tough Putin knows this and he knows his people wont cry out for MacDonald’s and iphones they will just eat turnips and tins of Spam and do it with pride.

They get to keep McDonalds and coke. Processed and canned foods along with soda ect, is not banned. Mostly it is just fresh foods. So the West will just process the fresh food and then Russian will buy it. Kind of silly and not very healthy but, no food shortages and the Western companies do not lose money and look to other markets cutting Russia off for good instead of just a year.

Such praise for Russia.. I really don't get it.

I will say this.. in the end, if Russia wants to play the sanction game.. they will lose.

originally posted by: fleabit
Such praise for Russia.. I really don't get it.

I will say this.. in the end, if Russia wants to play the sanction game.. they will lose.

It all boils down to the frustration about all the disgusting things EU/US has done to lots of people in this world for wanting to stay dominant in this world and someone able to do at least something against it.

originally posted by: SaturnFX
Yeah..erm...so let me get this straight...
Putin has decided to ultimately starve his people in order to mildly annoy some farmers outside of Russia.

And some dip-hi-s on ats think Putin is super duper clever for this move...

Interesting...but, it is politics on ATS..it never really did make a lot of sense

I know, Man, Putin is so awesome and manly, I wish he was the leader of the US, then we;d get some respect. No food, but respect

Sarcasm off (guess I better say it)

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

And Russia hasn't? All major powers have secrets, they spy, they use methods to continue dominating. I personally don't have a huge issue with Putin.. he has in general been good for his country. But if you knew about skeletons in Putin's closet, I have a feeling you might change your mind. The Ukraine situation took my opinion down several pegs for Putin. Why people here praise Russia and Putin for their invasion baffles me. If the U.S. had been the one to do it in the same sort of situation, people here would bleat how wicked and evil our government is. This site reeks of hypocrisy in every thread.

originally posted by: fleabit
a reply to: BornAgainAlien

And Russia hasn't? All major powers have secrets, they spy, they use methods to continue dominating. I personally don't have a huge issue with Putin.. he has in general been good for his country. But if you knew about skeletons in Putin's closet, I have a feeling you might change your mind. The Ukraine situation took my opinion down several pegs for Putin. Why people here praise Russia and Putin for their invasion baffles me. If the U.S. had been the one to do it in the same sort of situation, people here would bleat how wicked and evil our government is. This site reeks of hypocrisy in every thread.

I only explained to you why...I know he`s not a Saint...I`m not a Putin fan.

originally posted by: fleabit
Such praise for Russia.. I really don't get it.

I will say this.. in the end, if Russia wants to play the sanction game.. they will lose.

They already are.. The latest sanctions against their financial sectors is hitting pretty hard, both for internal development and external investment.So far the estimated losses are about 100 billion dollars and climbing.

Russia can feed itself, but I bet people will miss fruits and high-quality dairy products. Russian quality is bad, that is why rich people come to Finland for shopping on eastern border. This ban leads to overproduction here, as Russia is important export country for Finnish companies. The food prices are expected to drop, but only temporarily. Soon the prices are even higher than today. Also, food companies have to find new customers. Finnish dairy company Valio exports 1/5 of their production to Russia, and this ban is great impact for their income.

Putin's reputation currently is highest it has ever been, but Russian people have used to good quality and wide variety of products. This ban ends it. There will be empty shelves in shops just like during Soviet Union. This might even lead to malnutrition, as many fruits and vegetables don't grow in Russia.

Putin did this because Russian people are used to strong leaders, and there is also upcoming elections, which Putin plans to win. There is no limit on total terms President can serve, but President can run two consecutive terms and then sitting out one term. Putin had 2 terms in 1999-2008, then Medvedev (Putin's puppet) 2008-2012 and then Putin again from 2012. One term is 4 years.

Oh Naws! We're all going to go broke in the US! The US government is doomed!

Seriously Hellas, Stop drinking the kool-aid!

It is high time to bring order to the markets is the bastards bane of all Russia from foreign sellers are periodically kick and punch from cops and go home it youtu.be... 2013 P.S. Russian markets for Russian and monkeys go home it skins youtu.be...

strategic reserve of Russia is our people and products grown personally and anyone can have 40 +% it en.m.wikipedia.org... is and you do not have in the Dacha it's not just a house youtu.be... is the garden you want to keep the cattle want to grow vegetables berry fruit drink himself and sell fresh milk is his own master not to grow drugs and problems with the state will not be heh heh sometimes problems youtu.be...

When you play the game of sanctions you win or you die.

originally posted by: MrSpad
They get to keep McDonalds and coke. Processed and canned foods along with soda ect, is not banned. Mostly it is just fresh foods.

I really wish they banned coke at least.

But McDonalds and coke have factories and employ too many ppl in the country, so only fresh foods will get banned.

The import ban is no big deal. Russia can import from other countries. Similarly Europe and US can export to other countries. So net impact is zero.

The Western sanctions are more serious as they block capital of wealthy Russians and large Russian companies.

The Western actions force Russians to not trust Western financial system.

I doubt that Western nations can cut off Russia from international trade. Asia has a very strong economy right now and the fact is that almost all Russian needs can be met through Asian trade.

So while West may bask in the glory of its sanctions, even those will fail.

As far as military supplies and military technology are concerned, these were already blocked before the Ukraine war. The cooperation projects with France and Italy etc. are not very significant militarily.

If Russia plays its cards right and works with China, then the West may find it impossible to contain Russia militarily.

In many ways Russia is far more powerful than USSR as it is far more homogeneous.

Perhaps the western sanctions are starting to work on the Russians, so Putin announces his own sanctions to make it appear he is in control of the situation.
This may be his way to show his people that he is punishing western governments for not supporting his support of the rebels.

That's just great.

Now I have to stand in line for 4 hours instead of 2 to buy milk in Russia.

a reply to: rupertg

If there is milk on the market,that is.


I don't blame people. Living on a consumerist society makes it really hard for some to really understand and grasp the concept of rationing everyday stuff, doing long lines,etc. But their time will come, and they will understand.

a reply to: rupertg

There may be some shortages. Nobody should expect a war will be painless.

However Russia has more than enough land to feed its people. It is a question of raising productivity.