Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

originally posted by: baburak

originally posted by: dragonridr

... But Germans overwhelmingly support sanctions against Russia they see them as a direct threat to Europe. Thats why they have been leading the fight to further sanctions. Usually its the UK that takes the lead in Europe but Merkel jumped in and took over. Shes even got Obama following her lead. I guess Margret Thatcher has been replaced and now Merkel is leading Europe just like Thatcher used to. I think she was the wild card Putin didnt count on when he started this land grab he figured Germans like us they wont do anything.

Are you kidding? What you wrote is complete bull# and it is clear that you are not from Europe. German business is furious because they are losing with sanctions against Russia and with sanctions against them. Siemens even said they will boycott sanctions or move their headquarters from Germany. German population doesn't want sanctions against Russia and supports Putin (by almost every research made in Germany) more than Obama and US.

So again. What you wrote is complete BS. Come to Europe and see for yourself or just ask people from Germany.

Well im glad you took the time to do polls and talk to german businesses but apparently your data contradicts what other polls say. Could you please post your polling results from your survey you did.

BERLIN, July 28 (RIA Novosti) – More than 50 percent of Germans would back tougher sanctions against Russia even if they meant a loss of “many jobs” and a slowdown in the nation’s economic growth, according to a telephone opinion poll published by German weekly news magazine Der Spiegel.

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BERLIN , July 25 (UPI) -- German industries would support tougher sanctions against Russia, the leader of a German business organization said Friday.
Eckhardt Cordes, chairman of the Committee on Eastern European Economic Relations, an industry lobbyist group representing 6,000 German companies doing business with Russia, noted sanctions proposed by the European Union would harm German businesses but, "If there is a price to pay then we will pay it," adding his group would support additional sanctions "100 percent."



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See reality is Germany sees Russia as a rogue nation friends disappear when a country starts attacking its neighbors. we can play games all you like but anyone with half a brain knows this conflict is a russian invasion. In fact are rebel leader posted on the web hes waiting on supplies from Russia. So the separatists are no longer pretending hes got tanks on order lol. Oh and just for kicks heres some more so whos not based in reality.

"Economic interests are not the top priority. The top priority is ensuring stability and peace," Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was quoted by the newspaper as saying.

If German ministers were to warn against sanctions because of the potential damage to the German economy, then Chancellor Angela Merkel would have the wrong ministers, he said.

"Economic interests are not the top priority. The top priority is ensuring stability and peace," Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was quoted by the newspaper as saying.

a reply to: dragonridr

I'm glad you chose only results and responses which were given right after the crash of the B77 and world media campaign of blaming Russia. I would like to see the result of the polls before campaign started or latest business opinion ..

WSJ.com - German Businesses Urge Halt on Sanctions Against Russia (May, 2014)

Several of the biggest names in German business—including chemical giant BASF, engineering group Siemens, Volkswagen, Adidas and Deutsche Bank have made their opposition to broader economic sanctions against Russia clear in recent weeks, both in public and in private. ... In most countries, it would be highly unusual for corporate executives to inject themselves into geopolitics and matters of national security with the forcefulness that a number of German business leaders have. But many of Germany's largest companies have substantial Russian operations, built in some cases over decades, and worry that tough economic sanctions would rob them of a key growth market when their home market—Europe—is stagnant.

Bloomberg View (august, 2014) - Eastern Europe: Don't Sanction Putin

The leaders of Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic feel Western sanctions against Russia have gone a little too far. These people know the Soviet system better than anybody in the world outside Russia itself, and they recognize that sanctions are not going to work.

And even Ukraine loses support among EU countries ..

Itar Tass (august, 2014) - Slovak PM criticises Ukraine over sanctions against Russia

Ukraine’s possible sanctions against Russian gas transit will jeopardise the economic interests of European countries, Slovak Prime Minister Robert Fico said on Thursday. He said “it’s weird” that Ukraine, which has signed an association agreement with the European Union and is receiving its aid, was taking “unilateral steps” that jeopardised the economic interests of individual EU countries, The Association Press quoted Fico as saying.

And just for the fun of it .. Putin probably has higher approval rating in the US than US government, which has lower approval rating than hipsters, zombies, and hemorrhoids.

... meanwhile .. poll on the Independent website shows that 65% of the voters chose Putins as their favourite world leader.

a reply to: baburak

And just for the fun of it .. Putin probably has higher approval rating in the US than US government, which has lower approval rating than hipsters, zombies, and hemorrhoids.

Americans have a higher opinion of psychopath mass murdering cult leader Charles Manson than Vladimir Putin according to this poll. But that's not the point of the poll. The poll is almost satirical, intended as a wake-up call to Congress, not, as you misstated, the "United States Government."

As for German businesses objecting to the sanctions, they are more concerned about their corporate profits than the well being of Germany or Europe.

a reply to: baburak

Your funny you dont want to see polls from now but prefer them from months ago because things changed after the attack on the civilian airliner ? Wow sad partis i know your not joking see life changes things change and now Russia is considered a threat to Europe. See funny thing about life circumstances will often change people minds as they say you cant live in the past. Well with the stuff Putins done since may opinions have changed dont know why you posted a poll from may when mine was last week.?? I guess its getting harder and harder to defend Putin hey i know you CAN GET A POLL from 2 years ago in the US i know alot of people in the US supported Putin back than including me. Your turning your argument into a joke and a sad commentary on the extent of control the Russian media has spreading propaganda.

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: baburak

Your funny you dont want to see polls from now but prefer them from months ago because things changed after the attack on the civilian airliner ? Wow sad partis i know your not joking see life changes things change and now Russia is considered a threat to Europe. See funny thing about life circumstances will often change people minds as they say you cant live in the past. Well with the stuff Putins done since may opinions have changed dont know why you posted a poll from may when mine was last week.?? I guess its getting harder and harder to defend Putin hey i know you CAN GET A POLL from 2 years ago in the US i know alot of people in the US supported Putin back than including me. Your turning your argument into a joke and a sad commentary on the extent of control the Russian media has spreading propaganda.

No, I'm saying I don't want to see polls from weeks ago that were made just after the crash of B777. As I already said, I want to see latest opinion or the ones before the media war started.

You just keep looking for words to twist as it is obviously what you are doing, since I made it clear in my last post:

I would like to see the result of the polls before campaign started or latest business opinion ...

You see the 'latest' in there? I guess not because you don't want to see it. And as you said:

... see life changes things change ...

And you have to accept the fact that the world approved those sanctions only during the media war in the first two weeks after the B777 crash. Deal with it. Europe doesn't want any new sanctions against Russia as it didn't want them before. Or just keep twisting words until you find the meaning you like.

originally posted by: baburak

originally posted by: dragonridr
a reply to: baburak

Your funny you dont want to see polls from now but prefer them from months ago because things changed after the attack on the civilian airliner ? Wow sad partis i know your not joking see life changes things change and now Russia is considered a threat to Europe. See funny thing about life circumstances will often change people minds as they say you cant live in the past. Well with the stuff Putins done since may opinions have changed dont know why you posted a poll from may when mine was last week.?? I guess its getting harder and harder to defend Putin hey i know you CAN GET A POLL from 2 years ago in the US i know alot of people in the US supported Putin back than including me. Your turning your argument into a joke and a sad commentary on the extent of control the Russian media has spreading propaganda.

No, I'm saying I don't want to see polls from weeks ago that were made just after the crash of B777. As I already said, I want to see latest opinion or the ones before the media war started.

You just keep looking for words to twist as it is obviously what you are doing, since I made it clear in my last post:

I would like to see the result of the polls before campaign started or latest business opinion ...

You see the 'latest' in there? I guess not because you don't want to see it. And as you said:

... see life changes things change ...

And you have to accept the fact that the world approved those sanctions only during the media war in the first two weeks after the B777 crash. Deal with it. Europe doesn't want any new sanctions against Russia as it didn't want them before. Or just keep twisting words until you find the meaning you like.

I gave you the latest business opinion but you didnt bother to look at it but instead want to deny the poll. Ignoring the silliness of wanting to look at older polls in a situation thats been going on months. What purpose is there to look at a poll from may when people didnt focus on the conflict. See the airliner didnt change people opinion like you think it just made them actually pay attention. And when people looked into it they could see what Russia did was wrong. In fact its starting to happen in Russia. See if Russia is on the right side here than why is most countries against there actions? If Russia is on the right side why is countries imposing sanctions when its obviously not in there best interest to do so? If russia is on the right side why did they take territory from Ukraine instead of helping them? No one has annexed territory other than Russia since world war 2! Why is it that even people in slovyask not that the separatists are gone saying it was Russians that came in and started the conflict and at first were seen as protectors but they quickly realized they were there to make a land grab. If you have internet access take the time to look at what the people in eastern Ukraine says about the Russians now that they are no longer there with guns.

a reply to: dragonridr

LOL ... it's pointless to argue with you since you are not interested in any new facts if they are not in line with your views.

You want to know what the latest business opinion is. I already posted one link (and I guess you missed it) but I can post one more. There are a lot of similar actions going on in EU ..

Spanish farmers burn EU flag

And there are five countries that will lose more than Spain.

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: dragonridr

LOL ... it's pointless to argue with you since you are not interested in any new facts if they are not in line with your views.

You want to know what the latest business opinion is. I already posted one link (and I guess you missed it) but I can post one more. There are a lot of similar actions going on in EU ..

Spanish farmers burn EU flag

And there are five countries that will lose more than Spain.

They are not protesting because they want the ban on export to Russia lifted, they are protesting because food prices are low and they have been prevented from "dumping" the produce in France, hence the anti-EU sentiment. The EU will purchase the Spanish fruit as compensation. The issue is further complicated by stringent EU aesthetic standards for produce. Nice try, though.

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www.freshfruitportal.com...

ec.europa.eu...

a reply to: DJW001

LOL ... and again. The first link you posted, that speaks about this protest, clearly says (in Spanish) that this particular protest (the image that i posted) was because of the Russian sanctions. I guess you don't agree even with your own sources, huh?

a reply to: baburak

LOL ... and again. The first link you posted, that speaks about this protest, clearly says (in Spanish) that this particular protest (the image that i posted) was because of the Russian sanctions. I guess you don't agree even with your own sources, huh?

That is not exactly what it said. It said that there was uncertainty about the effect of the sanctions, and that opinion was divided. Anger at the EU is not support for Russia.

originally posted by: baburak
a reply to: DJW001

LOL ... and again. The first link you posted, that speaks about this protest, clearly says (in Spanish) that this particular protest (the image that i posted) was because of the Russian sanctions. I guess you don't agree even with your own sources, huh?

This has been an ongoing issue with the fruit growers has nothing to do with Russia. But nice try bottom line is fruit growers cant make any money and they blame the EU. As far as sanctions no businesses dont like them but even in the article i wrote they support it. See as i said opinions about Russia is galvanizing in Europe. Russia has done mre damage to their international relations and making themselves a rogue nation. Shame to at one point Russia was considered a world leader but i guess that role just didnt fit Putin.

And more of the latest opinion on sanctions, since you say that everyone supports them. We already know that Spanish farmers do not support it and that German businessmen doesn't support those either ...

Hungary PM Orban condemns EU sanctions on Russia

Eastern Europe: Don't Sanction Putin

Citrus farmers want state to seek sanctions exemption

Slovakia warns against ‘meaningless’ sanctions as EU crisis talks over Russian export ban begin

Finland will No Longer Impose Sanctions on Russia

a reply to: baburak

Here, perhaps you need to look further than twitter:

www.elperiodicodearagon.com...

www.heraldo.es...

www.abc.es...

This is not the first time UAGA-COAC has staged a stunt like this:

www.diputaciondehuelva.net...

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: baburak

Here, perhaps you need to look further than twitter:

Twitter has all the info anyone could ever need, according to US government. As Psaki said, US government opinion on Russia is based on the posts on social networks ...

originally posted by: baburak
And more of the latest opinion on sanctions, since you say that everyone supports them. We already know that Spanish farmers do not support it and that German businessmen doesn't support those either ...

Hungary PM Orban condemns EU sanctions on Russia

Eastern Europe: Don't Sanction Putin

Citrus farmers want state to seek sanctions exemption

Slovakia warns against ‘meaningless’ sanctions as EU crisis talks over Russian export ban begin

Finland will No Longer Impose Sanctions on Russia

Your funny from your own links you obviouslt do not understand context. Here let me help when they said this:

Finnish PM speaks out just days after sanctions
Finland will impose no additional sanctions on Russia in response to Moscow’s ban of food imports from some EU countries, said Finnish Prime Minister before the presidents of the two countries are set to meet on Friday in the Black Sea resort of Sochi.

Doesnt mean the PM is against sanctions he simply said no need to add additional sanctions meaning that he just not going to add more just because Russia did. See he could have started a trade war and said fine we will stop selling you electricity etc. But the PM was smart enough to know you dont try banning stuff in retaliation for sanctions.

originally posted by: baburak
And more of the latest opinion on sanctions, since you say that everyone supports them. We already know that Spanish farmers do not support it and that German businessmen doesn't support those either ...

Hungary PM Orban condemns EU sanctions on Russia

Eastern Europe: Don't Sanction Putin

Citrus farmers want state to seek sanctions exemption

Slovakia warns against ‘meaningless’ sanctions as EU crisis talks over Russian export ban begin

Finland will No Longer Impose Sanctions on Russia

Farmers are whining about sanctions because they want EU subsidies. As for why Eastern European leaders oppose sanctions, I believe your source puts it perfectly:

That Orban, Fico and Sobotka are not as defiant as Sikorski may, however, have nothing to do with courage. Unlike Sikorski, who sought asylum in the U.K. at the age of 18, they know and remember the Soviet system well, including the oft-repeated quote attributed to Soviet Politburo member Mikhail Suslov: "We do not economize in matters of ideology." As a result, they might recognize that Putin, with his nostalgia for the Soviet past, isn't going to be deterred by mere economic difficulties, just as Soviet leaders and their vassals were not. The scars of that kind of thinking are still visible throughout eastern Europe -- in the joyless concrete buildings, the abandoned factories, the rural desolation. Eastern Europe has worked hard to escape that legacy, and its leaders know that if Russia goes into Iron-Curtain mode, it will have no pity for itself or its neighbors.

Your own source, emphasis mine.

Argentina is ready to organize supplies of a wide range of animal and plant products to Russia, including dairy products, cheeses, chocolate and confectionery products, milk powder, wine, macaroni products, fish and seafood, and fruit - mainly citrus fruits, apples and pears, said Argentina's Industry Minister Debora Giorgi. The country also considers supplying breeding animals and genetic material, the minister added.

The Russian agency will examine proposals and guarantees of the Argentinian side within the shortest possible time to expand the list of enterprises interested in supplying animal products to the Russian market, said Rosselkhoznadzor head Sergey Dankvert.

en.itar-tass.com...

a reply to: BornAgainAlien

There is something RT is telling you about Argentina has one of the world's highest inflation rates,this forces them to limit its exports of meat, corn, wheat and other foods to try to keep domestic food prices down. Meaning they will not ship anything to Russia in large quantities without restrictions.Their government makes international shipments difficult by not always granting export permits and often on a very limited basis.

But hey maybe Russians inflation rate can surpass theirs and than wont that be funny only Russia doesnt supply its own food hmmmmmm.

originally posted by: Hellas
Putin bans agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

A one-year ban has been imposed on certain agricultural produce, foods and raw materials from countries that have sanctioned Russia. An order on economic measures to protect the country's security has been signed by President Putin. The decree “on the use of specific economic measures” has been signed in response to sanctions imposed on Russia by a number of states over the Ukrainian crisis, the Kremlin said on its website.

While the law comes into force immediately, the government has been tasked to come up with a concrete list of imports to be banned. The decree orders the Cabinet to take measures to provide a balance on product markets and prevent rapid price growth. The government has also to join efforts with manufacturers, businesses and retail store chains to increase the Russian goods supply.

I say way to go Putin! Let them choke on their sanctions

RT

Yeah, right on. EU bends to banksters pressure carefully. Sort of, "we do what you ask us to do but see for yourself that it leads to no where". EU is open for evolution alongside with russia but there is a subtle line, like breaking up with your girlfriend without hurting her feelings. Sort of like, see what you did))))

Cheers

Well it seems even the Mighty Russia didn't think this one trough :
Russia excludes dietary milk, some vegetables from blacklist

The Russian government has amended its list of embargoed agricultural products, by removing lactose-free milk, young salmon and trout, as well as some vegetables and nutritional supplements from the list of restricted imports.

Seed potatoes, onions, and hybrid sweet corn can now be imported from Western countries after earlier falling under Russia’s food ban.

The governmentdecreewas signed by Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev on Wednesday.

On August 7 Medvedev instigated the ban on imported beef, pork, poultry, fish, cheese, milk, and fruit vegetables from Australia, Canada, the EU, the US and Norway.

Shortly after a group of Russians filed a petition to the PM urging products needed for “special dietary purposes,” such as lactose or gluten free, be excluded from the blacklist.

rt.com...