Putin BANS agricultural imports from sanctioning countries for 1 year

a reply to: Hellas

Where are all these sanctions from western nations on Israel? -- who is in the process of ethnic cleansing?
It's all bs. Thanks Obama. And the rest of our self serving government who are just pawns of the bankster elites.

originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Hellas

Where are all these sanctions from western nations on Israel? -- who is in the process of ethnic cleansing?
It's all bs. Thanks Obama. And the rest of our self serving government who are just pawns of the bankster elites.

You don't sanction your mentor

a reply to: Hellas

Russia has to import food.
The US exports food.

I am not sure how Russian logic works but to me it looks like its backwards.

Obama speaking on this topic live now. He was asked a question about it.

Basically saying sanctions are working the way they're supposed to.

a reply to: Xcathdra
Yep. And guess where they get a lot of their food from?

Ukraine.

originally posted by: pirhanna
a reply to: Hellas

Where are all these sanctions from western nations on Israel? -- who is in the process of ethnic cleansing?
It's all bs. Thanks Obama. And the rest of our self serving government who are just pawns of the bankster elites.

Good question -

While trying to find that answer you can also check to see why Russia nor China have placed sanctions on Israel. This would mean Russia and China are self serving governments who are just pawns of the bankster elites.

Yes?
No?

Also what does Israel have to do with this thread?

originally posted by: Xcathdra
a reply to: Hellas

Russia has to import food.
The US exports food.

I am not sure how Russian logic works but to me it looks like its backwards.

No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Xcathdra
Yep. And guess where they get a lot of their food from?

Ukraine.

Yeah this is one of those ignoring history lessons for Russia. The Ukraine was the bread basket of the Soviet Union and even then the USSR still had food issues.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Obama speaking on this topic live now. He was asked a question about it.

Basically saying sanctions are working the way they're supposed to.

Big words from Mr. 17 trillion in debt..

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Obama speaking on this topic live now. He was asked a question about it.

Basically saying sanctions are working the way they're supposed to.

Big words from Mr. 17 trillion in debt..

He didn't do that all by his lonesome. Just saying.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity

originally posted by: Hellas

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Obama speaking on this topic live now. He was asked a question about it.

Basically saying sanctions are working the way they're supposed to.

Big words from Mr. 17 trillion in debt..

He didn't do that all by his lonesome. Just saying.

Yeah well I know that

But he is the one in charge and now crying that Russia is biting back.

a reply to: Hellas

He ain't crying. In fact he was kind of laughing at the little tantrum Putin threw here.

ETA: I just calls em as I sees em. I don't see parties. This is not a partisan issue with me. Just saying

originally posted by: Hellas


No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.

You once again missed the point by ignoring facts.

The history of Russia is replete with food shortages and famine. Russia, just like other countries, have been experiencing large droughts. In Russia's case their wheat production has been suffering.

Food is one of those areas where buyer can be found for surplus. Since we export and Russia does not, please explain the benefits of Russia's actions?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
a reply to: Hellas

He ain't crying. In fact he was kind of laughing at the little tantrum Putin threw here.

ETA: I just calls em as I sees em. I don't see parties. This is not a partisan issue with me. Just saying

Russia is Europe's largest importer in value. Maybe that will give you another perspective how big or small this ban is

originally posted by: Xcathdra

originally posted by: Hellas


No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.

You once again missed the point by ignoring facts.

The history of Russia is replete with food shortages and famine. Russia, just like other countries, have been experiencing large droughts. In Russia's case their wheat production has been suffering.

Food is one of those areas where buyer can be found for surplus. Since we export and Russia does not, please explain the benefits of Russia's actions?

Are you talking food or in general? Because I don't think you forgot Russia's gas exports

Gas isn't agricultural or an import.

Wondering where this is going.....

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Gas isn't agricultural or an import.

Wondering where this is going.....

Let me repeat that for ya..

Russia is Europe's largest importer in value. That's meat dairy products, fruit & vegetables.

Still laughable??

ETA: since when is Gas not a good that gets imported?

a reply to: Hellas

No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.

You seem to be underestimating the role that hunger, want and starvation have played in Russian history. The people will begin to notice when foodstuffs begin to disappear from the shelves. Cranberries and pineapple at first, then oranges, beef, chicken... and eventually wheat bread. They will see the specter of chronic food shortages creeping back. If Putin wishes to avoid a replay of the events of 1917, he will indeed need to find new resources to feed the people. Unfortunately for him, everyone is aware of his predicament and they will use it to leverage their prices. Brazil and Argentina will be happy to sell grain and beef to Russia... at twice the price they charge China.

a reply to: Hellas
It's a temper tantrum move. So yes in that respect.

Russia has a habit of starving its own people and those of its neighboring countries in fits of temper. Who will this hurt more? That remains to be seen.

Also, he blocked imports from the U.S., no?

originally posted by: DJW001
a reply to: Hellas

No one will die on a watermelon shortage! I'm sure if there is no America tomorrow, the rest of the world will be just fine. No one died before they imported goods from other countries. Don't overestimate America's or Europe's influence on that.

You seem to be underestimating the role that hunger, want and starvation have played in Russian history. The people will begin to notice when foodstuffs begin to disappear from the shelves. Cranberries and pineapple at first, then oranges, beef, chicken... and eventually wheat bread. They will see the specter of chronic food shortages creeping back. If Putin wishes to avoid a replay of the events of 1917, he will indeed need to find new resources to feed the people. Unfortunately for him, everyone is aware of his predicament and they will use it to leverage their prices. Brazil and Argentina will be happy to sell grain and beef to Russia... at twice the price they charge China.

What? Are you serious??

So Russia has no own meat etc???

Russia's meat self sufficiency grew from 72% in 2012 to 76% in 2013

global meat