Should DOD shoot Ebola plane down?

originally posted by: VashKonnor
a reply to: ~Lucidity

They could have been treated there, without introducing an as-yet unknown virus to the Western hemisphere.

There? In Africa? The whole reason why Ebola spreads because Hospitals don't have the correct equipment or staff?

They knew the risks and probably know the risks of bringing it back here but did it anyway. Why?

They are not bringing it back here. You people are so ignorant on VID's that you make these wild assumptions that viruses like Ebola are some sort of pandemic-like the crap you see in zombie movies.

It isn't! If you know the virus you know how to control it. It's when you don't know someone has been infected that the real danger appears. Stop spreading this BS idea "doctors brought it here".

If they would be left in Africa where nobody has an efficient health-care system, they would die.

You are taking a pretty emotional view here, and that's understandable.

Emotional? I'm making jokes out of someone's else fearful ignorance... I'm not emotional.

You are. You are scared. So scared in your bubble of ignorance that you would prefer to see two doctors die in Africa, than to bring them home and give them the best chances possible of survival.

The reality is, this was not a wise decision but will benefit someone

Who? Why? When?

You don't know. If you don't know, you are just making up crap.

I'm not scared. Not one bit. Maybe you need to read some and maybe check out the other thread and maybe deny some of your ignorance on the matter.

a reply to: ~Lucidity

I'm not scared. Not one bit. Maybe you need to read some and maybe check out the other thread and maybe deny some of your ignorance on the matter.

Nice way of saying a lot of things without saying anything at all.

Yes its well known if you want to stop the spread of a comunicable disease blow # up to spread it around as much as possible. Where is the facepalm smiley.

I'm not twisting. You said it and it was today that I read it. You can lie to yourself and claim you never wrote 30k infected but I know and you know that you really did.

m reply to: ParanoidAmerican

Ok sorry. I got angry when I read that part and responded to that. There are so many heartless fear mongering posts that I rushed to judgement on yours. Again sorry. a reply to: LABTECH767

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

There was no way I could have edited it today, as you should know you only have 4 hours to edit a post. Go try to edit a post from yesterday. So you could not have read what you claim.

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a reply to: ParanoidAmericanf you actually read the article, it said they (Nigeria's Public Health) wanted to contact 30,000 people, not that they were infected. Transmission rates for Ebola are low. Your statement is typical of ...



Here's someone else who read the post before you edited it. Nice try though.

a reply to: Xeven

Don't you think its much smarter to bring them here where we can study and monitor and prevent any further spread of the disease? Sounds to me like your just trying to create more of a pandemic than there already is. You need go get your head out of the movies and open your eyes to the real world. Obviously the gov knows what they are doing by bringing these two home. Why on earth would they risk it otherwise?

I'm not "claiming" anything. You lie through your teeth. You and I both know you said it. Good God just knock it off already. I can't believe you're trying to say you didn't say what we both know you did say. a reply to: ParanoidAmerican

]I did read it and clarified my statment, still doesn't change the rate this is spreading and size of the outbreak.



Here's where you admit to editing the post.

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

Lol back to the ad hominem tactics....

Yesterday before you replied.....so there is no way you read it as you claim....I am done this is a worthless debate with someone who claims I am thinkheaded.......wow
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originally posted by: PageLC14
a reply to: Xeven

Don't you think its much smarter to bring them here where we can study and monitor and prevent any further spread of the disease? Sounds to me like your just trying to create more of a pandemic than there already is. You need go get your head out of the movies and open your eyes to the real world. Obviously the gov knows what they are doing by bringing these two home. Why on earth would they risk it otherwise?

No I do not think bringing a deadly virus to our shores is smarter.
Not trying to create anything other than discussion about the risk of bringing deadly disease to our country.
I allow my mind to travel outside the box you live in and bring those thoughts here for discussion.
I spent 20 years in this government and I can tell you that they absolutely do not know what they are doing.
The government turned a blind eye to this situation and did not allow anything. As the CDC director said a civilian company made the decision to bring them home without US government consent. The CDC helped them how ever.

No government official did any critical analysis of the risk of letting this happen before allowing it to happen.

originally posted by: Xeven
No government official did any critical analysis of the risk of letting this happen before allowing it to happen.

You do not know that, do you? There are contingencies for dealing with this type of thing, coupled with facilities and professionals capable of dealing with it.

In laboratories all over the world, including the US, scientists routinely deal with very nasty diseases. You can be sure Ebola is already in the US and being handled on a daily basis.

Regards

a reply to: paraphi

I could be wrong I guess. I am just going by what CDC Director is saying in interviews.

a reply to: BobAthome

I'm not really sure what you're trying to say. Are you saying we should save the tax money used on making sure the plane is refueled and turned around and instead just kill innocents? I'll bet you scrambling jets to shoot the plane down would cost more than having police officers reroute the plane and send it back on it's way.

originally posted by: PageLC14
Obviously the gov knows what they are doing by bringing these two home. Why on earth would they risk it otherwise?

"The gov knows what they are doing" I just spit a mouthful of Dr. Pepper thru my nose all over the place.

oh, I just noticed all the people doing damage control are basically new members, just like in the BP disaster a few years back.

Pretty transparent don't you think; do you think this type of thing goes unnoticed?

originally posted by: aboutface
a reply to: DuckforcoveR

I'm a bit confused as to why the spread is being attributed to washing of the body as though it's a primitive practice only found in third world countries. Back when I worked in a hospital, all deceased were washed after death as per written hospital policies, and by hand, before going to the funeral home where it is believed that morticians also wash the bodies using a hose and drain system. It is customary therefore in all cultures to do so, and before the availability of latex gloves everyone used a handheld washcloth.

Because the African form of 'washing the body' consisted of hours of touching, kissing and mourning over the dead guy, all without any semblance of understanding of germ theory. And they were washing someone with Ebola, not dead from a heart attack, cancer, or whatever. Corpses who have died from contagious diseases are not 'washed by hand' anymore, and for good reason.

According to the BBC effort's to stop the spread of the disease are now proceeding slower than the spread of the disease, in liberia the people are being buried with resident's fearing this may put them in further danger.

This is a terrible tragedy that is hitting people who suffer more than enough already and this is further exacerbated by the fact this strain of Ebola is suspicious but as we all know and suspect it may be an engineered strain though perhaps even a virologist could not prove that.

Containment has therefore now failed in Liberia and it continue to spread, people fearing quarantine may go to ground only to infect others and if that plane was shot down this proves that it was a futile act.

For many decade's now the production of new anti biotic's has been slowed by corporations whose only ethic's has been the bottom dollar and the next quarterly so have been reticent to invest in new large scale research and anti viral drug's have also not been researched as effectively as they might have been for the same reason's, sanitation has been privatised in many western nations producing further contagion conducive condition's by corrupt short sighted politicians who think there opinion is correct when in fact they are expert's in no field.

This may expand out of africa and even if we manage to stop it this time it will happen again as long as we allow the illiterate rich boy's to rule us, the young politician to appeal to the young voter was the worst mistake of the twentieth and twenty first century as the older guy's cared about there kid's and knew they had less time, so running the country was there priority and not what came after that Job.

IF this comes under control and IF it is not artificial then it will be a miracle should we not face another pandemic within the next 10 year's.

God help us all and especially those suffering right now, losing there mother's, father's, wive's, husband's, son's, daughter's and entire family's.

I said thick headed not think headed. Big difference. Yes I'm through. You are not fooling me. r reply to: ParanoidAmerican

a reply to: AutumnWitch657

To be honest it was partly my fault in the way I wrote it and after my last post I actually felt terrible, but that is not what I would want to see, still we may yet see just that but may not be told about it as there are some pretty inhumane decision makers out there so sorry if I came across too harsh as well.