Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: marg6043

America is a developing country?

Well Detroit and New Orleans are

LOL. Yes they are third world. When you visit, I'll take you to my old haunts in Detroit.

Im possibly in south carolina october and I have to pass through detroit airport, even though the stop over one hour im not looking forward to it

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck
...this matters because real doctors speak English, right?

Yeah, not sure why that mattered.

NavyDoc has done a sufficient job of refuting the points made without picking on someone's language skills.

Say whatttttt????

Experimental Ebola Serum Grown in Tobacco Leaves
By Brenda Goodman, MA
WebMD Health News
Reviewed by Michael W. Smith, MD

Aug. 4, 2014 -- ZMapp, the experimental treatment rushed to two Americans infected with Ebola in Africa, is grown in specially modified leaves of tobacco -- a plant better known for harming health than healing.

“We complied with a request from Emory University and Samaritan’s Purse to provide a very limited amount of ZMapp last week,” says David Howard, a spokesman for Reynolds American Services, the parent company of Kentucky BioProcessing. The small biopharma company in Owensboro, KY, has been contracted to grow the drug.

Making the serum is slow, in part, because the plants must be grown for several weeks before they are “infected” with a type of protein. “Basically the plants act like a photocopier of the proteins,” Howard says.

Once they’re infected, Howard says it takes a week for the plants to make enough of the protein to harvest and distill into a useable drug.
www.webmd.com...

he compound used to treat Dr. Kent Brantly and Nancy Writebol was only formulated in January, according to Larry Zeitlin, PhD, president of Mapp Biopharmaceuticals, the California company that co-developed the drug.

It has been tested in monkeys, but had never before been given to human patients before it was rushed to Brantly and Writebol.

Zeitlin says he hasn’t even had a chance to publish a scientific paper on the compound, which is a combination of three antibodies that are thought to help in two ways.

One of the antibodies alerts the immune system to infected cells so they can be destroyed, says Erica Ollmann Saphire, Ph.D. She's a professor of immunology at the Scripps Research Institute in La Jolla, CA. She’s been given a government grant to study the antibody cocktail.

Saphire says the other two antibodies probably prevent the virus from making more copies of itself. “We’re still trying to figure out exactly how it works,” she says. “But it seems to neutralize the virus.”
Cautious Optimism

Other experts who study Ebola urged caution with reports of Dr. Brantly’s dramatic recovery on the drug.

Thomas Geisbert, MD, professor of infectious disease at The University of Texas Galveston Medical Branch, has been studying the Ebola virus since 1988.

He says news accounts that Brantley’s rash disappeared in just an hour after receiving a dose of the drug don’t make sense to him.

Contradicting what we are hearing in the MSM

Des

Ut oh. He just called navydoc an emt. It's ON.

a reply to: crazyewok
Y'all come visit us in Atlanta too, ya heah? We have ebola!

a reply to: Destinyone
Oh lord the FDA is gonna freak.

originally posted by: crazyewok
a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

If he could get BASIC medical facts right then sure it can be put down to a non english speaker.

But he/she is getting facts wrong a high school student should know.

Not what the NAvyDoc said in his post, and not what I'm addressing.

originally posted by: adnanmuf

A navy doc is an emt usually.

Oh boy, can't wait for NavyDoc to read THIS one...get y'ur popcorn handy and watch the show.

Future Tip: Never call a doctor an EMT.....not good form.

Glad you're here, NavyDoc, I asked a question a few pages back that wasn't answered about shedding the virus:

I know it's going to definitely be in the fluids of a person with symptoms, but when a person has no symptoms yet, is there absolutely 100% zero chance of even a single virus cell being present in those fluids? Or is it just highly unlikely that the amount of virus in the fluids would infect anyone? How is it that zero virus cells get into things like saliva or sweat until it's reached critical mass for symptoms to manifest?

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: ~Lucidity


a reply to: crazyewok

I'll take Trick Medical Questions for $1000, Alex.

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

And speaking of questions...

Questions about this new Ebola drug

Ahh....he told her she should have the first dose! That splains it.

I don't know how many times I have to say this. IT. IS. NOT. A. DRUG. It is a serum of antibodies made from individuals who have survived the disease.

well it is a drug then!
What do you call venum antitoxin and diphtheria antitoxin found in pharmacies worldwide?

a reply to: ~Lucidity

Actually I may be flying home from Atlanta. Pkan is to come on down from DC and vist a few states in 2 weeks.

Anyway I drink so much coke its only fitting I vist the homeland!

This Ebola thing does not worry me in the slightest visting Atlanta,

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: marg6043

America is a developing country?

Well Detroit and New Orleans are

LOL. Yes they are third world. When you visit, I'll take you to my old haunts in Detroit.

Im possibly in south carolina october and I have to pass through detroit airport, even though the stop over one hour im not looking forward to it

South Carolina? I live in North Carolina on the coast now. This could be fun. We could go shooting.

a reply to: JohnnyCanuck

What are your opinions on ebola being introduced to Countries that have had no previous experience with ebola in humans out in the general populous.

Des

a reply to: crazyewok
It's a nice...airport Coke world is a bit disappointing, as is CNN. Atlanta is a...strange place. Getting very crowded, but you should get in touch! There are some cool places too, like Six Feet Under. lol

OMG the OBX is my favorite place in the world. a reply to: NavyDoc

ETA: Well...so far.

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
Ut oh. He just called navydoc an emt. It's ON.

a reply to: crazyewok
Y'all come visit us in Atlanta too, ya heah? We have ebola!

a reply to: Destinyone
Oh lord the FDA is gonna freak.

It's GMO tobacco that is being used. This mystery is coming full circle. The lead players are all crammed into one bed together. Gives a whole new meaning to doom po rn...huh...

Des

originally posted by: adnanmuf

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: ~Lucidity


a reply to: crazyewok

I'll take Trick Medical Questions for $1000, Alex.

Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis

And speaking of questions...

Questions about this new Ebola drug

Ahh....he told her she should have the first dose! That splains it.

I don't know how many times I have to say this. IT. IS. NOT. A. DRUG. It is a serum of antibodies made from individuals who have survived the disease.

well it is a drug then!
What do you call venum antitoxin and diphtheria antitoxin found in pharmacies worldwide?

Antitoxins.


Not drugs.


You need to learn the difference.

An antitoxin is essentially antibodies to the proteins found on the venom of venomous animals.
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

A drug is a chemical that does not use the antibody process but instead changes the chemical and biological function of the target organism.


How many breakfast cereal boxtops did your "medical degree" cost you?

originally posted by: ~Lucidity
OMG the OBX is my favorite place in the world. a reply to: NavyDoc

ETA: Well...so far.

We can take the boat out and go fishin'. Red drum is good eating.

a reply to: Destinyone
Lemme guess...bound by microcystins and produced by Monsanto/Tekmira in Ohio?

originally posted by: 00nunya00
Glad you're here, NavyDoc, I asked a question a few pages back that wasn't answered about shedding the virus:

I know it's going to definitely be in the fluids of a person with symptoms, but when a person has no symptoms yet, is there absolutely 100% zero chance of even a single virus cell being present in those fluids? Or is it just highly unlikely that the amount of virus in the fluids would infect anyone? How is it that zero virus cells get into things like saliva or sweat until it's reached critical mass for symptoms to manifest?

Nothing is 100% However, the majority of virus shedding is after the patient is symptomatic. This is why viruses like ebola tend to "burn out" and viruses like HIV spread--one can shed HIV without symptoms.

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: crazyewok

originally posted by: raymundoko
a reply to: marg6043

America is a developing country?

Well Detroit and New Orleans are

LOL. Yes they are third world. When you visit, I'll take you to my old haunts in Detroit.

Im possibly in south carolina october and I have to pass through detroit airport, even though the stop over one hour im not looking forward to it

South Carolina? I live in North Carolina on the coast now. This could be fun. We could go shooting.

Shooting is on my list of too dos! My north carolina route I think is takeing me down to asheville though before down to charleston. Still arguing with my traverling campanion though !

Anyway back on topic before the mods beat us

originally posted by: JohnnyCanuck

originally posted by: NavyDoc

originally posted by: adnanmuf
You just Google pig is universal host or reservoir. And Google Ebola reston. I learned about pig in Med school before 1984 before there was internet. I am not gonna google for you. Do your research before you make silly statements like your no 2 fact crazyewok!

I'm a real MD with credentials. You cannot even speak English. Please enlighten me.

...this matters because real doctors speak English, right?

In Canada, certainly.