Ebola Patient in Atlanta Hospital

originally posted by: 00nunya00
a reply to: DrHammondStoat

Touché, the official reports say she showed no symptoms on the plane. Less reliable sources say she was showing late-stage symptoms, but we have no way of knowing. My concern is that if she collapsed immediately after deboarding, and died hours later, they would have told us if she had a heart attck or stroke or something commonplace that would cause these symptoms (privacy laws do not apply to the dead). Instead, they're just saying she tested negative for Ebola. I'll wait until we have autopsy results to decide.

ETA: it's good to remember that the National Enquirer broke the story about the John Edwards affair weeks before any mainstream credible outlet did. Tabloids are unreliable, but they have one advantage: they don't usually have to bow to the same pressures of censorship other outlets do. Perhaps the Mirror is actually more accurate about her symptoms and the rest are downplaying fears?

True, sometimes tabloids get it right but still no reports of the woman actually being ill on the plane. I remember reading in the Telegraph (or some broad sheet ) that doctors stated the woman died of natural causes and tests for ALL infectious diseases were negative. I can't find it now. You're right that we can't know for sure what we are hearing is the truth but we have to go off something until some other evidence tells us otherwise.

I've no idea if privacy laws would apply to a non- Uk citizen or that we would hear of autopsy results unless it was published as part of an inquest. I think I'm just going to wait to see if the Zombie-pocalypse begins, I have enough supplies to last at least the 21 days poster BobAtHome has been talking about.

originally posted by: kruphix

originally posted by: marg6043
a reply to: kruphix


Been prepared, doing research and reading as much information as you can is not been paranoid, is just exercising caution and been smart about it, specially when is not cure and the infection is fast and fatal.

It is being paranoid...nothing you do, no "research", no "reading"...is helping anything. No one on this website has any effect on what is going on, no one on this website will be immune to an outbreak because they read about it, no one on this website has any clue what is going on...

Honestly, it sounds like a bunch of children talking about monsters under their bed...all of them think they know exactly what they are talking about...none of them do.

Speak for yourself

I'm surprised you bother commenting on a thread that what you believe, is full of children with monsters under their bed.

Most of the posters here have provided some very accurate information including facts about the spread & transmission of the virus. I applaud the members who are keeping many of us up to date with the information they find as we will not hear it from the MSM.

Here are a couple quotes to those of us who have just been called paranoid.

Peace

Only the paranoid survive.
- Andy Grove

A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on.
- William S. Burroughs

People coming on Ebola threads asking questions and putting forth info whether it's disinfo or not is a good thing imo.

Disinfo is causing lots of problems for locals in west Africa. Knowledgeable people can help quell panic/disinfo, possibly save lives and calm people down.

I came here with a concern/wanted more info and much to my satisfaction crazyewok very kindly provided it. I'll read more but I'd don't always have time to do so. It's convenient to pick brains here at ATS/check out provided links all in one place.

Trusting the medical industry here in the states is a tough pill for some to swallow. Some people are simply going to be a harder sell, patients is key.

a reply to: kruphix


Kruphix. All you do in any thread you manage to insert yourself into, is try to derail the topic of the thread with accuasations of stupidity of all the ATS members posting in it. It's almost like you get off on stirring the pot.

That is so sad, because it does appear you are intelligent, yet, you never do any research to add anything of a positive nature to the thread you decide to stir crap in. You could be an asset if you chose to be.

Now, as to the topic of this thread. It's to compile as much data on ebola that we can, since this a new situation of introducing 2 human beings with active ebola to a part of the world that has not dealt with this issue before.

Knowledge is power to make informed choices. Deny Ignorance, is the motto of ATS.

Now, Kruphix. If you have nothing to add of any value. Please find another thread to track mud into. We are actually spending our valuable time, trying to educate ourselves.

Des

Something that we all should know about big pharma and their backers.

How an on-hold Ebola treatment is boosting Tekmira

With the Ebola outbreak in West Africa proving difficult to control, according to Centers for Disease Control and Prevention director Tom Frieden, the world is looking to the pharmaceutical industry for solutions.

That's pushing up shares of a money-losing Canadian biotech firm called Tekmira Pharmaceuticals (TKMR), which has been working on a treatment called TKM-Ebola. The stock jumped by almost one-third last week, and rose another 12 percent in early trading on Monday, before slipping back along with the rest of the market.

Never let a pandemic go to waste specially when the pandemic is brought to a nation like the US and not by accident.

www.cbsnews.com...

interestingly the has been put in hold, perhaps waiting for more people to get infested, after all now Ebola is in the US

The treatment is considered one of the most advanced medications for Ebola, Vox notes. The company has been awarded a $140 million contract from the Department of Defense to develop the therapy, which protected 100 percent of primates infected with a lethal dose of the virus in an earlier study.

The Monsanto Sponsored Ebola Vaccine Will Kill More People Than the Ebola Itself

Monsanto, or Monsatan as many call them, has partnered with the Department of Defense to use a proxy third party company to develop a vaccine against Ebola. The seed money began at $1.5 million. The value of the deal could grow to an estimated $86 million dollars.

investmentwatchblog.com...

Can we call it now an agenda?, How long the government has been preparing for a pandemic in the US

DoD Has Deployed EBOLA Detection Kits to National Guard Units In All 50 States

April 12, 2014,

On April 8th Congress was informed by the the Department of Defense [DoD] that because of emerging threats JBAIDS hemorrhagic fever assays have been deployed to National Guard units of all 50 States.


. “By partnering with the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command and the Food and Drug Administration, we have made accessible additional diagnostic assays for high
consequence, low probability biological threat agents for use during declared public
health emergencies. This collaboration has facilitated the availability of viral hemorrhagic fever diagnostic assays for use during a declared emergency and adds
previously unavailable preparedness capabilities to this fielded system…


……To address the need for a near term capability to combat emerging threat materials,
we have already provided Domestic Response Capability kits to the National Guard weapons of mass destruction civil support teams resident in all 50 states. These
kits provide emerging threat mitigation capability that includes detection, personnel
protection, and decontamination.”

globalresearchreport.com...


Look to me like the pieces are falling in place.

Paranoia, or research.

a reply to: marg6043I started a thread regarding Monsanto and Tekmira, days ago. It just got pushed to the bottom of the deck. ATS Thread: Monsanto & Tekmira: The Cure for Ebola
Knowing that Monsanto is behind this, should signal many red-flags. But, i guess people don't care about the "truth"; just about what the bs networks have to say.

originally posted by: ImDaMan
a reply to: marg6043I started a thread regarding Monsanto and Tekmira, days ago. It just got pushed to the bottom of the deck. ATS Thread: Monsanto & Tekmira: The Cure for Ebola
Knowing that Monsanto is behind this, should signal many red-flags. But, i guess people don't care about the "truth"; just about what the bs networks have to say.

The Secret Serum that both patients received was produced by Mapp Biopharmaceutical.

There is a reason Tekmira is on hold, that is to make way for Mapp I would imagine. The question is why?

Mapp Bio

CNN Source

And it appears that Mapp Bio was contracted by DoD.

Source

The contract ends on July 14th, 2015.

Department of Defense knew something.....

Mapp Bio is also working with Defyrus on the Zmapp project (Secret Serum).

And as it just so happens... Defyrus is a biodefence company with a patent on a delivery method for biodefence against a biological agent (eg. Bio weapon).

Defyrus News Release

Patent Info

a reply to: ImDaMan

I am so sorry I missed I will add the information I got in it, because all this is starting to fall in place.

ATS Member soficrow posted a new thread with this new story of Dr. who contracted Ebola after treating Sawyer in Nigeria. www.abovetopsecret.com...

I'm adding link to story to our thread for reference material.

Sawyer is the American who traveled through 4 airports/3 flights in Africa then died of Ebola 2 days after his last flight into Nigeria.

Authorities in Nigeria on Monday announced a second case of Ebola in Africa's most populous country, an alarming setback as the total death toll from the disease in several West Africa countries shot up by more than 150 to 887.

Most of the newly reported deaths occurred in Liberia, where on Monday night a special plane to evacuate a second American missionary who fell ill with Ebola landed in the capital. Nancy Writebol is expected to arrive in Atlanta on Tuesday, where she will be treated at a special isolation ward.

Health authorities in Liberia ordered that all those who die from Ebola be cremated after communities resisted having the bodies buried nearby. Over the weekend, military police were called in after people tried to block health authorities in the West African nation from burying 22 bodies on the outskirts of the capital, Monrovia.

The World Health Organization announced Monday that the death toll has increased from 729 to 887 deaths in Guinea, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Nigeria.

Nigerian Health Minister Onyebuchi Chukwu said the confirmed second case in his country is a doctor who had helped treat Patrick Sawyer, the Liberian-American man who died July 25 days after arriving in Nigeria from Liberia.

Test samples are pending for three other people who also treated Sawyer and now have shown symptoms of Ebola, he said. Authorities are trying to trace and quarantine others. abcnews.go.com...

Des

a reply to: Seek_Truth

Yes an US base pharma in California but it doesn't have the heavy funding like Tekmira have that is from Canada.

Is it me or is this outbreak looking more and more like an act of terrorism??

Dirty Bomb containing Ebola?

a reply to: marg6043

Defyrus has the funding though. Also from Canada.

Defyrus

originally posted by: Seek_Truth
Is it me or is this outbreak looking more and more like an act of terrorism??

Dirty Bomb containing Ebola?

That is an interesting question. I'm not believing some of what is being put out by the MSM. I have seen FOX News cable, today claim that Dr. Brantly was miraculously cured(their word not mine), in the matter of less than 48 hours after taking a single dose of a *secret serum* the day before his flight to the U.S. That he went from being on death's door to walking into Emory Hospital on his own.

The spin machine is in full swing. That's just my own opinion.

Des

a reply to: Seek_Truth

I see, this getting better and better, so is already various companies trying to get into the ebola vaccine frenzy, so timely, don't you think.

But so far we all know that Tekmira has heavy backing from Monspanto and the DOD partnership.

a reply to: Destinyone

Incredible isn't, it doesn't get any dirty than that, darn we are good here in ATS, we can spin the issue around until, hell we start to see the light of true.

a reply to: Destinyone
It's a spin-o-rama, worse than the Tilt a Whirl of MH370. CNN also said that the doctor's symptoms abated an hour (give or take) after the serum was administered. It was stated that it had never been tested on humans (is this true? And if so, how did the serum affect the lab animals/monkeys? I guess that'll be announced by one of the networks.
But for dire symptoms to vanish in an hour? Wow, that's super fast.

a reply to: marg6043

Did you read my earlier post?

Mapp Bio (Leaf Bio) partner's with Defyrus and was contracted by the Defence Threat Reduction Agency

Department of Defense is heavily involved in this "Secret Serum" aka Zmapp.

-Cheers

originally posted by: drwill
a reply to: Destinyone
It's a spin-o-rama, worse than the Tilt a Whirl of MH370. CNN also said that the doctor's symptoms abated an hour (give or take) after the serum was administered. It was stated that it had never been tested on humans (is this true? And if so, how did the serum affect the lab animals/monkeys? I guess that'll be announced by one of the networks.
But for dire symptoms to vanish in an hour? Wow, that's super fast.

Exactly...deaths door implies to me, degeneration of vital internal organs. Now all better with a kiss from a secret serum.

Plus all the previous stories said only ONE dose was sent and the good Dr. insisted Nancy his assistant get it. Now the story is he took the first dose as he said he was dying, and she got the second dose. What about the original story Dr. Brantly only got a blood transfusion from a boy who got better from ebola???

Too many stories changing in the matter of a few days.

Des

a reply to: drwill

I posted that part of the findings on another thread, it looks like is symptom free, or it could be just wishful thinking

A representative from the National Institutes of Health contacted Samaritan's Purse in Liberia and offered the experimental treatment, known as ZMapp, for the two patients, according to the source.

The drug was developed by the biotech firm Mapp Biopharmaceutical Inc., which is based in San Diego. The patients were told that this treatment had never been tried before in a human being but had shown promise in small experiments with monkeys.

According to company documents, four monkeys infected with Ebola survived after being given the therapy within 24 hours after infection. Two of four other monkeys that started therapy within 48 hours after infection also survived. One monkey that was not treated died within five days of exposure to the virus.

Brantly and Writebol were aware of the risk of taking a new, little understood treatment and gave informed consent, according to two sources familiar with the care of the missionary workers. In the monkeys, the experimental serum had been given within 48 hours of infection. Brantly didn't receive it until he'd been sick for nine days.

www.cnn.com...