Seriously freaking out.

a reply to: NoRulesAllowed

I believe he said that at first he thought it looked like a star or a satellite, but then when it came closer to him it looked like an orb. He did say that it came straight at him and I think that's what sparked the intense fear.

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
i too believe in God and evil spirits, but they don't manifest in any form like your describing.

Agreed. Aliens aren't demons. Demons don't ride in space ships. They are etherial and have no need of them.

a reply to: FlyersFan

But he is not describing a machine he's describing lights and orbs zipping around. Demons can certainly do that. Why do you think Satan is called prince of the powers of the air?

a reply to: wtbengineer

Thank you for defending my honor it means a lot.

To clear up the confusion here, AT FIRST it looked like a star or satellite. Then it started moving erratically. I didn't see it's true 'shape' until it was almost directly over my head, it was just round.

Asfor the question. Do you go around rebuking everything?

No, I don't. I'm not a nutcase. As I said, I'm perfectly sound minded.

I just don't like it when something that I DIDN'T YET SEE grabs my attention. It makes you a little uncomfortable you know. I hope you never have to experience it.

I don't 'rebuke' everything I see because not everything I see puts out a feeling of utter fear in my soul. This wasn't any day ordinary fear, it was exactly the same fear I had when I saw the pyramid UFO. It's a deeper fear than I'm used to. And it I used God to defend me, why not? It worked for me.


Thank you SO much for your support ATS. I'm feeling a little better now after a few goods cups of tea!

a reply to: Joneselius

Hey, no problem my friend. I just didn't see anything in any of your posts that deserved being picked over.

And I'm glad you're feeling better!

a reply to: Joneselius

I think I would be more afraid of humans than ghosts. Ghosts cant do as much to you compared to the evil humans are capable of. Either that feeling was put upon you or your mind knew it just wasnt right.

originally posted by: Joneselius
a reply to: Stormdancer777

I would if I had them....

There was absolutely nothing calming about it.

Please don't super-impose other people's feelings onto this. I didn't feel calm, or mellow. Not on either occasion. Maybe they, whatever 'they' is, don't like me? I would of felt calm or comfortable if I could. UFO's don't inherently scare me. They just weird me out. The pyramid one scared me because it was so massive and weird, it also emenated fear, you'd know that being an observer yourself. Maybe you feel what they want you to.

Maybe I've annoyed 'them'? I honestly don't know.

THIS,

In that respect he should pay attention to those emotions

I didn't make myself clear, I was telling you to play close attention to the fact you felt fear, the emotions we feel are significant in determining if the entity was a good or bad, I too have had an experience with a negativity entity, and yes I felt fear, and yes I repeated the lords prayer over and over.

Sorry I didn't make myself more clear last night.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: hounddoghowlie
i too believe in God and evil spirits, but they don't manifest in any form like your describing.

Agreed. Aliens aren't demons. Demons don't ride in space ships. They are etherial and have no need of them.

How do we know they are ethereal?

Well for what it's worth. I believe you. I don't think you saw anything spiritual or demonic.

As for why you sensed it before you looked at it. I believe you mentioned something to that effect. The craft might be emitting some sort of energy field for it's propulsion. or as a scanner, looking for something. You might have subtly sensed the energy field. Maybe it's microwaves, ultrasonic, quantum, who knows but maybe thats what drew your attention to it. Jut like if you hear a sound your going to look. Maybe you felt it's presence literally in some way due to whatever energy field it's propulsion puts out.

As for the responding to your rebukes. There have got to be ways to scan an area specifically for the type of energy signatures a thinking brain puts out. Using a very sensitive antenna maybe it's possible to detect the electrical signatures of a brain, (especially a human brain, which probably looks distinct compared to the rest of the signals it senses from other brains ie. animals) as minute as they may, be from all the other electrical signatures in the environment. They can then filter it out of all the background noise and hone in on an individual. Maybe it was looking for something or someone and was picking up on your rebuke. Maybe when you are rebuking something it sends out a distinct or more obvious signature that it's sensors picked up over the rest and it came over to investigate. Maybe it thought "hey is this the guy were looking for?" they came took a look and either went, "nope not him, damn he's around here somewhere. "

Maybe it did find their guy, and you're still here and safe so it probably meant you no harm.

Also, could have been "theirs"could have been ours(human). You never know. But I doubt it was spiritual in nature. And you feeling it could have been it's propulsion fields altering whats going up in your brain making you feel "different" and it was completely unintentional and an unavoidable side effect of the propulsion system.

Either way, CALM DOWN! and don't worry too much. In fact be happy that you're privy to stuff most humans never notice. Other than startle you it obviously hasn't done you any harm.

Plus coming in contact with god is a fearful experience also.

Moses, Isaiah, Daniel, Peter all had frightening experience when coming in contact with god.

example
MATTHEW 17:5-7: While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. And when the disciples heard [it], they fell on their face, and were sore afraid. And Jesus came and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid.

Daniel 10:9-10 But the sound of his words came to my ears, and on hearing his voice I went into a deep sleep with my face to the earth. Then a hand gave me a touch, awaking me, and putting me on my knees and my hands.

Rev. 1:17 - And when I saw him, I went down on my face at his feet as one dead. And he put his right hand on me, saying, Have no fear; I am the first and the last and the Living one;

And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand on me, saying to me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

a reply to: Joneselius

No, I don't. I'm not a nutcase. As I said, I'm perfectly sound minded.

well that's not what you say here.

OCD the real story.

now after seeing this, it is much harder to believe your story, as you yourself stated in that thread that,

it's often said that people with OCD are one or two symptoms away from Schizophrenia - in some aspects that's true.

and in another post in that thread, you stated mother suffered from schizophrenia.

You don't sound Schizophrenic, I'd know my mother is schizophrenic.

it is a well known fact that mental illness can run in families, and can be passed on. it is also noted
that many people with schizophrenia, say that their ocd symptoms started first.

now don't get me wrong, i'm not knocking you for haveing a illness. but having dealt with the schizophrenia, ocd, bi polar, manic depressives on my mother side. there are 6 alive now, three of which have been institutionalized most of their lives. and going back in the family line, there are at least 15 that have been said to have been that way.
great grand parents, great aunts and uncles,aunts and uncles, and cousins. hell one of my great uncles told one of my aunts that has been diagnosed as a schizophrenic, manic depressive with bi polar, and ocd, when she was complaining about her condition. Mary we're all crazy, you just got papers saying so.

oh and one other thing, about half of them went around rebuking the demons and was thought constantly that the were under attack.

any way back to my point, after reading the thread i pointed out, and your posts there in. it makes it much harder for me to believe this thread.

i suggest that you go to your preferred mental health specialist, tell them what you saw and how you felt and get you some help.

ETA: i forgot to post this quote of one of your posts. this says a lot.

It's not superstition. It's apart from it. It's not something we 'believe' per sea.
It's not superstition. It's apart from it. It's not superstition. It's apart from it. It's not something we 'believe' per sea. We know our thoughts aren't real but the images and sometimes scenes that play out in our heads 'feel' real. I'm not a superstitious person at all, not really. I'm not a superstitious person at all, not really.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
How do we know they are ethereal?

Demons are etherial. They can possess people and travel inter-dimensionally. They travel through solid objects. They are ethereal and have no need of a space ship.

originally posted by: wtbengineer
But he is not describing a machine he's describing lights and orbs zipping around. Demons can certainly do that. Why do you think Satan is called prince of the powers of the air?

The OPs opening post said this -

originally posted by: Joneselius
You may remember my last as the (black pyramid thread) I posted about a past experience I had with a UFO. Well here I am again, 3:50am and I've just had my second 'close encounter'.

Therefore I am under the impression that he's claiming this as a UFO type thing. There are people who think that aliens and ufos are really demons. That's why I stated that demons are etherial and have no need of a vehicle .. it looked to me like he was saying this was alien stuff. If not .. then my mistake.

Clarification from the OP on this would be helpful.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
How do we know they are ethereal?

Demons are etherial. They can possess people and travel inter-dimensionally. They travel through solid objects. They are ethereal and have no need of a space ship.

Have you seen it happen, and how do we know that aliens are not capable of the same thing?

ethe·re·al
adjective \i-ˈthir-ē-əl\

: in heaven

: resembling heaven : seeming to belong to another world

: very delicate
Full Definition of ETHEREAL
1
a : of or relating to the regions beyond the earth
b : celestial, heavenly
c : unworldly, spiritual
2
a : lacking material substance : immaterial, intangible
b : marked by unusual delicacy or refinement
c : suggesting the heavens or heaven
3
: relating to, containing, or resembling a chemical ether

a reply to: hounddoghowlie

Good advice. However, he may not be totally trippin. He may have seen something real. I still doubt it's spiritual or demonic in nature. Trust me there are some weird things in this universe that are absolutely real. Interestingly I think religious cosmology is not one of them. This could have been something totally different. mechanical in nature. Could have been theirs could have been ours.

I do believe the OP should go talk to someone to deal with separate issues, and maybe for related anxiety. But in regards to seeing weird stuff thats real. He may be telling the truth and just doesn't know what he saw or was really looking at.

If I were him I'd re read my post and ponder it.

Just a theory. The eye under certain conditions reflects light back to the observer. If a starcraft was equipped with a camera or HUD display, then your eyes (especially at night) might to them, light up even from some distance away. They could then zoom in and begin there decent. Don't fear them. We are great at sending thoughts /images with our mind, not so mush as receivers. The Native Americans believe strongly that feathers can be used to communicate with our star ancestors. I feel that the time of contact is soon and inevitable.

originally posted by: Spacespider
a reply to: Joneselius

I don´t think its anything to do with rebuking it disappeared.
Perhaps this "entity" was just curious about you and wanted to make friendly contact
But it sensed you where panicking and could not handle contact so it let you be.

Or OP made a contract with the entities in the UFO before this life, and they are coming to ask if the contract is still valid. From the OP's reaction, s/he is not wanting to initialize the contract. This is most likely why s/he had the other encounter (Gold pyramid), and I would bet that s/he had many encounters/dreams/etc that would support this line of thinking. Dreams of big owls, men in black, floating and talking with other people in hyper-realistic dream-scapes?

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
How do we know they are ethereal?

Demons are etherial. They can possess people and travel inter-dimensionally. They travel through solid objects. They are ethereal and have no need of a space ship.

The holy spirit possesses you too

That's why the Bible says to test the spirits, what is the holy ghost. the holy spirit, the Shekhinah glory?

And the spirit of the LORD will come mightily upon thee, and thou shalt prophesy with them, and shalt be turned into another man.

originally posted by: Stormdancer777
Have you seen it happen,

Aliens or demons? I've been around demons a handful of times. They HATE. The hate on them is tangible. It's as if you were the only person in the universe and all their attention and hate is being directed towards you. As far as aiiens go ... I"ve seen a UFO three different times but haven't had any person to alien encounters.

and how do we know that aliens are not capable of the same thing?

Good question. Aliens = organic. Demons = etherial. I would think that's the main difference. And just speaking from my experience with demons ...,. those couple of times tell me that demons wouldn't bother playing with someone and pretending to be a light in the sky. All they want is to hate and destroy you. They wouldn't waste time playing games. And again .. that's my opinion based on my experience.

Seriously Stormdancer .... if you are ever near a demon you'll know it. The hate freezes your very soul. And I'm not exaggerating. It's pure hate and your soul literally freezes with fear. I never want to be near one again. It's not fun.