history of secret societies

secret societies are one people all the way to the ancient past.

it all started in india 5000 years ago with a cannibal tribe called Manda.

they were freed slaves since they were lazy and rejected work.

they lived off cannibalism and eating any thing unlawful and not eaten by the peoples of india.

peoples of india had different religions but they all believed in primal god.

the Manda rejected all gods or religions. They believed that earth is extremely old and humans originated from animals and there was no god and no soul. They claimed that the only soul is the blood that come out from dead humans and animals.

they believed all people around them were wrong and that every thing is lawful if man desireth such as killing stealing coveting sodomy just about any as long any one's heart desireth (Humanism, what ever a human desireth is humanism)

there is no soul no god nothing after death no god judgement. they however believed in spirits as beings living on earth made of light or fire.
They noticed than when they slayghter an animal or a human the spirit posessing the animal if any will posess them. They enjoyed communicationg with these spirits, those spirits were found only in deserted places especially in at night at midnight and before dawn.

They learned wisdom from these spirits such as earth is very old, cycles of life on earth and that nature never ends but cycles and recycles, the spirits knew that because they been living on this earth for hundred million years.

The Heathen Athiest Manda being always posessed by spirits did not like to work or make have family or anything other humans do since it was a waste of time and effort.

Since they were unable to live solely on cannibalism and trash, they accepted offer from other peoples to work as butchers, animal slaughteres, since the normal people around them also believed animals could be posessed by spirits and they did not want to be posessed if they slaughters animals them selves (like to their cattle)

Since then the Manda (Magi) were able to get sustained living regardless of what ever happens to the other peoples from war natural disasters etc, since always the new communities will need them as butchers.

Because of their cannibalism for such a long time they developed huge forehead caused by the meat of dead people and especially the meat of pork since they had their own cattle swine that live on trash.

those Mandas (Medai, Magi ) followed other peoples where ever they went.
most famous immigration of india is that of the victorious Arians (Hari) who came from the river Harirud in Afganistans who moved west as the Persians, so the Manda (Medes) lived where ever the Persians lived (Persians a branch of Arians believed in Monthiesm a one god only named Ahura Mazda among other names)

the Medes managed to live separately and cause uprisings from a millinium to millenium. the first one was their defeat on the hand of the Arians in India, then another revolt recorded by the Akkandians as Umman Manda wrath, headed by Nimrod who destryed Ur the city of Abraham. Abraham confronted Nimrud.

the next revolt was the Kaldea/Assyrian empire expansion in 10-6 century BC time of sack of Jerusalem, where the Manda (medes) were the majority of the army and the Magi (head sorcerers of the Medes) were the ruling class of the empire a religion that was subscribed to by the Assyrian kings and then the Kaldeans who were pure Magi who managed to get rid of the Assyrians. The Kaldees sacked Palestine and all near east killing every body (king Nabonidas 550 BC)

The Persians ( monothiest) caught up with their former slaves and massacred them on the hand of Persian King Darius the Great who built his capital in the Elam area (medes) and their destroyed capital Sus or susa.

Darius identified with the jews and Arabs as their god eloh is the same as his god Ahora mazda and so he appointed the prophet Daniel as the second in command of all the empire (prime minister for life)


to be continued

The Magi religion after being dessimated by the Persian became Pariah homeless hated people. The y had o find a place to rest so they used Ezra one of them impostering as a Hero of the jews person, remeber that the main methodology of Magi Manda Medes Madai the Ancient Communists the Apologist Athiest of ancient times, was always dissimulation, what is dissimulation?? it is infiltrationg other people and pretending they are one of them, and surviving like that even if having to curse their own people in public.

The Magi managed to make their own first fake nation but still living all over the world, but have their separate communities where other people believed they are the Ancient Israelites or at least believers of the Jewish religion what ever that is, since that religion was left to the Magi themselves to matriculate through the ages however with aparant gnostic Magi dissimulation (aka communists athiests of the ancient)

also back in time in 1500 BC the Magi had contact with the people of Gog and Magog and managed to converts some of them to the Magi religion (communists athiests) those gog (goths) became known as Magog since they are all descend from same stock but with out knowing their immediate father, only Maternal Lineage was known, just like the Magi were in India and later in Iran. all maternal lineage nations like russians Ashkenazi jews Armenians etc trace their origin to the Magi being converts to the Magi religion.

the Magog (Massagetai) were powerful under leadership of a queen (Tamara or Tomyris for example) they were also known as the Huns (from Ha, people of the wind) ever traveling in their caravans seeking new land you have the Ha-n (the Chinese han who managed to take over china from the original chinese (mongols Japanese Tibetians and Hmong Haplogroup C)

the Rozehan (the red han) are the russians (Roze people, flesh people aka people who are like flesh with no skin, red people or red ha-n)

Also from the western goth who were the goths gog who took over europe also subscribed to that communist religion later became known as the Templars and then Freemasons.

In our times all these groups who are of the Magusi religion (No god, blood is the only soul (red flag of communists or Rothschield meaning Red shield in memory of the red flag of Ashkenazi Khazar uprisings against christians russians in the east. or east europe, the red flag of the Medes under Babek the Khurramian leader of the Magi uprising against the Abbasids.

they are all together are the secret societies of today and they are all tracable to the Cannibals' religion in India.

they use dissimulation (secret society manipulation of revolutions and destroying the enemy society from within)

Secularism is actually their current Apologic Athiesism of today replacing Zoroaster's dualist magi religion and Manda religion of old.

but the leadership among them goes only to the Caucasian race (gog magog the Goths) AKA the europpeans (free masons eliminati etc)

the other Magi in he secret society such as the jews and shia are dispensable

a reply to: adnanmuf

S&F'd i can work with some of this..
here's three modern day renditions of ahura mazda

and a topic about other owls
some "related" movie analysis & other stuff
the light coming to earth
some crazy "related" transhumanism #
male & female polarities
and an insight into how they use a subtext
thanks for providing the foundation for a nice research hub

of course i forgot to mention, "where are the magi(magusi) now?
they converted to Judaism to start the talmudic Judaism which encompass all current jews, the old Israelite religion of Moses continued by the Essenes and the Islam), and then some of the Talmudic Jews converted to Islam to start the Shia gnostic Magi branch.
As for the other Magi convert to Magi they were in the free masons illuminati etc in Europpean countries and now they are the intellegensia in every country in the world working together in unisom.

So you have the original tribe of Magi Magusi Manda now living luxury life in Iran as the Black turbans (desendents of the prophet Muhammad as they covertly claim) and some of the Israelies and in Hollywood etc.

originally posted by: adnanmuf

As for the other Magi convert to Magi they were in the free masons illuminati etc in Europpean countries and now they are the intellegensia in every country in the world working together in unisom.

How do you know the Freemasons are of this lineage? Do you have documents, or some sort of factual basis for this?

(you do know the Illuminati no longer exist right?)

a reply to: adnanmuf
Except Magi and Medes doesn't come from Manda.

actually they do. Manda in the name it is hindi name, Manda name is very much used in the Middle east especially in south iraq and gulf states , it refers tomanda dishes etc remnant folklore and traditions of that tribe.

Umman Manda is used in 1800 BC to refer to the communist uprising (qarmatian style )
they do come out against the people whom they live within about every thousand years (usually they kill every body , become very rich with loot and then they suffer starvation because they just killed the people who make food being them too lazy)
they are known as the Pro-literates (Prolitaria) defective people mutants heathen hidonistic athiest. They managed to convert people who went down (very people in every nation) joined them as secret dissimulative gypsies.

The Term Medes is not correct , in the assyrian records it says Manda yet Europpean scientists translate it as mede.
Magi are the master sorcerers among the medes such as Zoroaster (whose real title was Zara da shatra) also a hindi name which means Zara (gold) da (the ) shatra (the infamous class who are expert in reading scriptures such as sanscrit Veda etc, like richis)

they were not correctly interpreting old scriptures but they were cheating all the time. When they found a prophecy about Abraham in the sanscrit veda (4500 BC) they claimed they are Brahma ( ancient sanscrit writers used to put the first letter in a word at the end and continue with that letter cursive to cover the whole word, that was to prevent changing the scriptures how ever the Magi pharaisees being stupid and not smart as they claim translated it as Brahma instead of Abraham.

A very good example is after Jesus christ came lots of liars (Magi) called themselves gnostics, so the true christians added a to the begining of the word which in greek mean not so agnostic means not gnostic (meaning idiots), yet the gnostics being idiots indeed took the word agnostics to call themselves in literature.
how stupid they are throughout centuries.
By the way Magi mean Gnostic!
Mag being from Magus (like in Major) big forehead (big brain individula- amutation originally came from cannibalism, but Manda Magi used that heathen mutation to brag they have big brains.

do not trust scientists when they translate ancient scripts for you, they the scientists are controlled by Magi, Magi scientists are at the head of every scientific department to filter information (making them politically correct (psst! for them)

a reply to: adnanmuf
Actually magi comes from "magush". Nor were the Medes atheists. Thanks for the revisionist BS.

So I shouldn't believe "scienists" translations, but you're telling the truth...please spare us your superiority complex.

a reply to: KSigMason

Athiesthism was not allowed in ancient times. Pagans would kill a person who profess unbelief in Gods especially the Ancient Gods.
The Magi religion (other names for them identical=gnostics, mysticism, Zoroastran, dualists) they were Apologist athiests meaning they made a veneer around their ultimate secret (no god), that venear was a matriculation of anything that could fit them in the predominant religion of their times (dissimulation). Their main thesis (which they did not believe it either but just a veneer) is that god the ancient is too far and he won't do nothing, from that faraway a transcendence or emanitation (sphere) came out of him (another god, closer god) that created everything, but he created it with lots of mistakes (diseases, natural disasters, etc) not a perfect creation like the Ancient God would go.
So that new god (demurge, satan etc) rules in cycles of time, one cycle for him and the next cycle for the representives of the Ancient God (the antichrist, Orpheus, Dionisius) However for that representive to come, the full cycle of suffering of the demurge has to complete, so the more pain the closer the next cycle some name it the Age of Aquarius).

The Manda a real tribe who came from India as a slave tribe (gypsies) accompanying other tribes that came from India (Arians, Hari -people who still continue to believe in the One God Monothiesm)
The Manda infiltrated the middle East (ran away from the Arians and took the area on the persian gulf shore near Iraq (susa, the nation of Emal, Elam means People, since the semites named them so because they were of unknown origin just people.

The Elam started the second revolution (first revolution was the Mahabhatra of India in which Arians came on top) the second revolution was recorded in the Akkadian chronicles (inscriptions on clay tablets) as the wrath of Umman Manda, meaning the wrath of the nation Manda (maternal lineage of Manda since they were communists know body knows his father just knows his mother, so thier mother was Manda mother of the nation, just like russians say Mother russia or Mother Katia). The Umman Manda revolution destroyed the Pagan (polythiests who belive in god the father but also other representive gods of him), they destroyed the city of Ur city of Abraham after he ran away from it as a monothiests a follower of Noah from the far east). in that revolution they were crushed so many of them settled in hard to reach areas like Kurdistan (mountains, and north Iran (current day Tehran) and Azerbijan)

Since then 4000 years ago most of them converted to the monothiest religions (kurds, Kaldeans, etc) while just a small minority strived on the ancient Magi belief (covertly however, pretending to be other people like Jews or Shia)

Their third revolution was 700 BC their destruction of JKerusalem, and Ezra preparing a dissimulating cover as Israelites still in Iraq and Iran (Mordechi and Ester).

The fourth revolution was the carmatians in 900 AD. The fifth revolution was the Socialist Internationale of Karl Marx and the Bolshevics (headed by jews and shia who threw the covering and became openly athiest for the first time.

Manda=Medes
the so called Mandaeans are descendents of Manda (same name) but still using dissimulation.

Manda now is a way of life and a belief but it all started from the Manda cannibals tribe of India 5000 years ago and beyond.

Their way of life ( trickeries of the gypsies) continued in our times in the covert operations departments (intelligensia)

So Manda---Medes--- Magusis--- Zoroastra---Magusis are ruling Persia--Mazdak and Mani-- Babek the red (Khurram)--Magog-- magog the red (Soviet union), Ashkenazi Jews (from Magog)--Kipputzes in Palestine--Mass Media control making the revisionist Political correctness (Hollywood)--Present moment they are very rich with spoils, they are only few millions but they only need 500 millions to serve them since they are lazy, so they want mass genoside of earth population so they don't revolt on them since they are so heavy with loot they cannat defend it , and they don't believe in after life so they don't want to die for that too.

Hope this cleared the question of "origins of the Secret Societies"

a reply to: adnanmuf
Gnosticism along with those others listed are no atheistic and they believed in a supreme being, a god. You can call it a cover, but you have no provided any actual evidence that this is true.

All of this doesn't take away from the fact that 'magi' doesn't come from Manda.

None of this proves the origin of "secret societies".

originally posted by: KSigMason
a reply to: adnanmuf
Gnosticism along with those others listed are no atheistic and they believed in a supreme being, a god. You can call it a cover, but you have no provided any actual evidence that this is true.

All of this doesn't take away from the fact that 'magi' doesn't come from Manda.

None of this proves the origin of "secret societies".

Magusis were the religion of the dualist Zoroastrans. Zoroaster was a Magus, meaning a Major sorcerer (magus means Magnum, big in the language of the Indians and the indo-europpean languages and the Sanscrit the dead language of India language of Vedas.

Magus were from the Medes as said by Herodotus. The Medes are the Manda as in Assyrian Royal inscriptions and Nabonidus chronicles cylender,

So Manda are the Medes and the Magus were a class of magicians (notice Magician relation to Magus and Magi!!)
in the Medes nation. The religion of the Medes was the religion of Magus who were from the Medes.

"Gnostics were the apologist athiests of the Ancients". do you understand the difference between athiest and apologist athiest? or athiest undercover? when an athiest in undercover he creates a dissimulated religion (dualism) so he is not ovious to the others as athiest and is not called athiest.

Gnosticism covert themselves in other religions like Mani Bardaisan, Montanus, from Bardaisanism came the Shia "

all roads lead to rome

(you do know the Illuminati no longer exist right?)

aye 'tis the order of miley cyrus nowdays
a snake only sheds its skin

a reply to: adnanmuf
Are you a Sunni Muslim by any chance?

Magi and Magus both come from "magush". Major etymology is not rooted with Magus; there's a difference between magus and magnus.

So Manda are the Medes and the Magus were a class of magicians (notice Magician relation to Magus and Magi!!)
in the Medes nation.

Well magician comes from magus, but you confuse the priestly class for class of magician.

"Gnostics were the apologist athiests of the Ancients". do you understand the difference between athiest and apologist athiest? or athiest undercover? when an athiest in undercover he creates a dissimulated religion (dualism) so he is not ovious to the others as athiest and is not called athiest.

I get that you are trying to call them crypto-atheist, but you are still false in this premise. My guess is you are playing at the my religion is better than yours game, and you are revising history and twisting information to play your deception...poorly done as it is.

why in the world Magician comes from Magus if the Magus were not magicians????
also Mobed in Wikipedia means a Zoroastran Priest "The term 'mobed' is a contraction of Middle Persian magu-pati, the first half of the expression apparently deriving from Avestan maga- or magu- (of uncertain meaning), and with Avestan -paiti meaning "master" or "teacher". Through Old Persian magush and Ancient Greek μάγος magos, Old Iranian magu- is also identified as the origin of the Latin word magus, a "magian". Through the Greek adjective μαγικός magikos and Old French magique, 'mobed' is distantly related to the English language word "magic"."
you can see the Zoroastran priest title Mobed is made up from Magu and Pati, so howcome Magus are not Zoroastrians???

Zoroastrans are Magus, Magus and Zoroaster a magus himself, are the Magus priestly class of the Medes (Manda).
Magush is Magus, you did not change nothing.

When the Magus the priestly class of the Zoroastrian religion were exiled by muslims to Yazd, where did they go from there??
to India.
why to India and not to Tajikstan homeland of the Arians, because India is the homeland of Magus! being the home land of the Medes (Manda).
Manda were the slave of Arians (Persians) throught the result of Mahabahatra wars where the Arians defeated the Dravidians including the Manda.


The current Zoroastrian religion are reformed ancient Zoroastrian religion and they are not part of the Gnostic apologist athiest anymore.
and they have nothing to do with the secret societies now or in the past thousand years.

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indeed Yazidis or rather Yazdis (dissimulation using Ahura Mazda name like city of Yazd in Iran where the Magusis Zoroastrans took refuge )
Yazdis do worship two gods the second god is non other than satan himself, just like the dualist religion/s had two gods one good and far and one bad and near worthy of worship (Satan).

When the Magusis went back to their homeland and prospered and were satisfied with the ancient good god for making them prosper, they changed their own religion and concentrated on Ahra Mazda the good god (allah, Yahweh, god the father) and forgot about the bad god Ahriman (satan).

The Magusi (Magi, Manda) used to assign representives to the bad god (7 emanations or 14 emanations) one of this was Sistan the nephew of Satan, from where the name of Sistani of Iraq name come from.!

So the lazy, trash and pig eating despicable cannibals became the Jews?

Lol.

You've just created your own little world. Good luck with it.

Yes Ezra a magi (according to Samaual al Maghribi a jewish convert to islam speaking the opinion of jews of his time) altered the bible and brought donations from (Medes in Iraq and Iran claiming to be jews or convert jews) made the royals of Jews in Palestine happy, to rebuild the temple , in no time they Ezra crew the magi became the Sadducees overseers of the temple (big money). When the rabbi and Sags pitted the jews against the Romans twice then the rabbi told the Magi jews to come to Palestine because the Ancient Israelites became little and defeated. The original jews could not tolerate the new comers because they drank alcohol openly according to the new rabbis who manipulated the bible to allow alcohol sodomy etc after they hid or altered the verses.

originally posted by: adnanmuf
Yes Ezra a magi (according to Samaual al Maghribi a jewish convert to islam speaking the opinion of jews of his time) altered the bible and brought donations from (Medes in Iraq and Iran claiming to be jews or convert jews) made the royals of Jews in Palestine happy, to rebuild the temple , in no time they Ezra crew the magi became the Sadducees overseers of the temple (big money). When the rabbi and Sags pitted the jews against the Romans twice then the rabbi told the Magi jews to come to Palestine because the Ancient Israelites became little and defeated. The original jews could not tolerate the new comers because they drank alcohol openly according to the new rabbis who manipulated the bible to allow alcohol sodomy etc after they hid or altered the verses.

they interpreted wine (Khamr) as acid, or changed it to Khamd (acid vineger), so you dont see but two words of wine in the whole bible? because the hundreds of wine words became vineger or acid or foul etc. measure on that the many other words that changed meaning since they could be pronounced differently (same letters) , the christians disapproved and later approved their deeds and even joined in in altering the bible.
enjoy the bible now.

Only arabs can read the bible correctly since Arabic is the same as Hebrew (one language) not the Modern Hebrew which is not related to the Ancient hebrew but a slavic gothic Yiddish language using midpronounced Hebrew Lexicon in Slavic phonology.

The religion of The Ancient Manda (Ancient Communism Heathenism or Apologic Athiests) became the origin of dualist religion (dissimulation, covert ) adopted by secret societies of the ssame religion and tactics.

originally posted by: adnanmuf
The religion of The Ancient Manda (Ancient Communism Heathenism or Apologic Athiests) became the origin of dualist religion (dissimulation, covert ) adopted by secret societies of the ssame religion and tactics.

Except it doesn't. What so many call "secret society" each have their own history and/or theories of origin.

originally posted by: KSigMason

originally posted by: adnanmuf
The religion of The Ancient Manda (Ancient Communism Heathenism or Apologic Athiests) became the origin of dualist religion (dissimulation, covert ) adopted by secret societies of the ssame religion and tactics.

Except it doesn't. What so many call "secret society" each have their own history and/or theories of origin.

covert departments are based on freemasons, freemasons came from Templars, Templars associated with Nusairi and Assasin secret sect who came from Shia and gnostics who came from Mazdak and Bardaisan who came from Zoroaster who came from the Medes who came from the Manda, it is unbroken chain perfect.

gnostics in christianity Paul, Melekites and Jacobites, and Jesuits. gnostics in Judaism is Ezra and the crew