Malaysian 777 Passenger Airline Shot Down Over Eastern Ukraine

I had a dawning realization that will have me pouring over the passenger manifest when it's released. I have an old Dutch buddy that lives in the Malaysia region. This is about the time of year she & her husband go back home to visit the parents (aside from Christmas) I'm not getting any response to emails, which is understandable given the time difference, but I'm worried as hell anyway....

So they finally found the plane that disappeared!

What a sad day .. many of the people from my country died in that crash .. but why choose this route ? Whatever the outcome is they knew what they were shooting at ..

My thoughts and prayers go out to the families of the people on that plane. It is another sad day for the human race.

originally posted by: rustyclutch


It still requires proof of which you have none.

So what do you call this footage and video of dead bodies exactly? How strict are your criteria? Because it's quite obvious to me your scrutiny varies dynamically depending on whether said evidence supports or attacks your claims. Your standards and ability to research certainly seem to drop when it's so called evidence for your 9/11 theories but in this instance with video and photographic evidence of multiple charred and broken corpses you sure have become awfully fussy all of a sudden.

originally posted by: rustyclutch---->pilots, etc will tell you it was impossible and why

Rob Balsamo kinda pilots that would be.
The rest of us know that it did happen and how.

BTW this is not a thread about 9/11, now back on topic.

originally posted by: fatdeeman

originally posted by: rustyclutch


It still requires proof of which you have none.

So what do you call this footage and video of dead bodies exactly? How strict are your criteria? Because it's quite obvious to me your scrutiny varies dynamically depending on whether said evidence supports or attacks your claims. Your standards and ability to research certainly seem to drop when it's so called evidence for your 9/11 theories but in this instance with video and photographic evidence of multiple charred and broken corpses you sure have become awfully fussy all of a sudden.

Pictures of dead bodies is no proof of how they got there or how the plane was destroyed. Instead of using your brain to find the logical ways around your pathetic arguments you present them to me as if they are divine proof I am wrong. What does pictures of charred corpses prove? Doesn't show who charred them does it? No it doesn't. So why are you still talking to me about it? I said PROOF. Your speculation is no better than mine.

a reply to: 0bserver1

It sucks doesn't it.

I keep seeing these pics of the passports of this young dutch girl and boy, on youtube. I can imagine their family friends have seen them too.

What a way to get confirmation.

And now the white house is on lockdown because an unattended package was found on the north fence line.

originally posted by: Ivar_Karlsen

originally posted by: rustyclutch---->pilots, etc will tell you it was impossible and why

Rob Balsamo kinda pilots that would be.
The rest of us know that it did happen and how.

BTW this is not a thread about 9/11, now back on topic.

Thanks for redirecting me...I only said I was off topic twice and that I wasn't responding anymore. Thanks for reminding me. Anything you care to add to the discussion or are you just piping in for kicks and giggles?

a reply to: Brainiac

There were Americans on board this flight, but 47 passengers are unidentified per orders of President Obama, because he is pacing around the rose garden trying to figure out a way NOT to get involved... HAHAHAHA this guy is a Fing joke!

Would not surprise me in the slighest!

Remember now :

The 'tranquility' of the global community has been substanially improved!

The US military knows exactly where the SAM was launched from. It will be interesting to see their reaction once everyone realizes this is so. What to do, what to do?

originally posted by: rustyclutch
Your speculation is no better than mine.

It's not my speculation.....it's dead bodies......

a reply to: Brainiac

but 47 passengers are unidentified per orders of President Obama

I haven't heard anything about this. Do you have a link for that info?

originally posted by: fatdeeman

originally posted by: rustyclutch
Your speculation is no better than mine.

It's not my speculation.....it's dead bodies......

When you presume to tell people how they got there when the experts haven't even figured it out yet....it's speculation.

Everyone keeps saying that President Obama got Osama Bin Laden... Ah but do you really think he would have initiated the work needed to be done prior to President Bush?

Hell NO! Obama would have never had the guts to set up the intelligence and the determination to get Osama Bin Laden, the only thing he did was NOT know that there was still an ongoing mission to get Osama until a briefing dropped on his desk stating that there was good evidence that Bin Laden had been located. I am SURE if he had known that a mission was active to get Osama Bin Laden that he would have deconstructed it so bad that he would have never been found. It was just LUCK that he didn't know what was going on! I guarantee that!

originally posted by: AstralTrespass

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Actually, RT is a pretty good news source.

It's true that they are focusing on the Ukraine being at fault, but it doesn't mean it's pro-Putin propaganda.

Um…

Russia Today is a Putin-directed propaganda machine, started and run by two Putin cronies; Mikhail Lesin and Aleksei Gromov. I though all ATS members were aware of that?

Cany you list some other news agencies that are more desirable in your view?

Yo listen to this guy:

How does so much [false news] get into the American newspapers, even the good ones? Is it because journalists, as a class, are habitual liars, and prefer what is not true to what is true? I don't think it is. Rather, it is because journalists are, in the main, extremely stupid, sentimental and credulous fellows -- because nothing is easier than to fool them -- because the majority of them lack the sharp intelligence that the proper discharge of their duties demands. Prejudices: A Selection, p. 220

en.wikiquote.org...

That trait is not unique to the west.

Never has been.

On second thoughts maybe you're right, maybe they did just kill a load of people and browned them off a little with a cooking torch, sprinkled in some airliner parts and garnished with some passports. Job done.

The mangled toddler still attached to the seat was a the perfect finishing touch.

Sometimes you just have to throw in the towel and accept you're trying to ice skate uphill.

a reply to: Brainiac

I don't know what Obama or Osama has to do with this. If you wish to bash Obama...take it to the mud pit. This thread is not about US politics.

originally posted by: SkepticOverlord

originally posted by: sheepslayer247
Actually, RT is a pretty good news source.

It's true that they are focusing on the Ukraine being at fault, but it doesn't mean it's pro-Putin propaganda.

Um…

Russia Today is a Putin-directed propaganda machine, started and run by two Putin cronies; Mikhail Lesin and Aleksei Gromov. I though all ATS members were aware of that?

im starting to think this site is a government op,