Another Squatch HD video

They were'nt acting
Now whether there was someone in a mask and a hoodie is a different matter...
But those 2 guys were'nt acting

This video serves to discredit some of the experts out here.
expert Jane Goodall says she is ‘fascinated’ by Bigfoot
Les Stroud is a good person to find the truth, however with all of his knowledge of the wilderness, he seems to lack the sense of the online world, and the lengths some folks will go to make a hoax.
Stroud claims, "why would someone spend 10 years just to make a hoax?"
Sadly there are many folks who would spend a LIFE time to make the perfect hoax. Les knows what he is talking about when it comes to living off the land, and the ways of the world. However he is slightly naive to the online world which he is not an expert on. I do not claim to be an online expert. But I do know people will go to GREAT lengths to make a hoax. Sadly.
Do I think bigfoot is real? I will say this. " It is possible."

So we come down to this. It is either Real. Or its a hoax. This is either proof, or it is a hoax.

This video here, I can not put my "faith" into this video here. For the reason that is just does not feel to me to be the real deal. But that is my personal "feeling".

If anyone will find Big Foot, it will be Les. And if he comes up empty handed, and is true to his word and fans, then he will tell the truth. And will not make something up for just ratings. I can hope anyway.

The sounds of rocks clanging, very well could be rocks falling lose, going down the cliff side.
The woops, could be Todd's minions out in the forest helping the hoax along.

There are to many people who WILL absolutely take great strides to make a hoax.
Some of the best hoaxes can lead to jobs elsewhere in the world.
A good hoax that is able to trick mass amounts of people are worthy to the right people who make it their lives work to keep up the greatest Hoax of them all. The Hoax of life. Take it for what its worth, and try not to read to deeply into that.
I am on the fence on Big foot.
The video in this thread. Well, it is what it is. And it will be real to some, and a hoax to others.
That my friends, is part of the bigger picture here. How far can they take it. How long before the hoax becomes something real. Then we must redefine what "real" is.

a reply to: SecretKnowledge
Sorry, but that's b-rated acting at it finest. The only thing that's missing is a guest appearance by Traci Lords, unless she was in the monkey suit.

I want to see proof of Bigfoot more than most, but we can't just believe everything that comes our way. There are way to many b.s'ers in the world.

originally posted by: applesthateatpeople
a reply to: FlySolo

Those men are not acting.

I am positive.

GREAT video.

You are right. They really aren't acting.

They are exactly as fake as they look.

originally posted by: Soloprotocol
I'm just guessing here. Hunter or not, if you saw a 8' gorilla type thing running three times faster than Usain Bolt...you run the opposite direction....Possible tripping up your friend for a clean getaway.

That's perfect.
The best way to avoid being mauled is simply to run faster than your friend.

Good thinking.

Biggie foot. He looks pretty monkey-like to me. But maybe that's the way this one is.

And as with all these "proof" videos we are never presented with the lead up. Why are we only seeing the perfectly framed shot starting at 1:15/16? There must have been more than that, as I seriously doubt that "camera-buddy" could have kept the perfect frame AND pushed the start button at the same time.

Also it is strange that a creature about 30 feet away avoided the detection of the experiented and relentless hunters for so long.

I truly have problems with the second "camera-buddy" (AKA Great White Hunter), who grabs the camera to video an alleged creature and successfully fail to do so, mainly due to his inept camera work - pointing the camera everywhere else but in the direction of the hunt.
The first camera-buddy seems to have a much better grasp at how to use a camera, which #2 (pun intended) clearly should know.

This small video reminds me of "Ghost Adventures" which is as fake as it comes. I feel sorry for people wanting to believe so much that they turn their critical thinking off when they see videos like this.

originally posted by: FlySolo


It really is the look on his face that grabbed my attention. Something about it you just can't 'fake' imo. Granted, these guys are rednecks and if that really was a squatch, can be guaranteed he would shoot it between the eyes. It's not of fear per se, but something more. It's the look of someone who just found gold.

Have at it.

Couldn't disagree more, I think they act and look soooo fake... and the fact that when it's slowed down it looks the guy is wearing a hoody and mask.... and is "perfectly" obscured by the tree in the one shot we get of "it" staring...? Na man, this is fake.

a reply to: blupblup

It would be interesting to see how many members or how good we are at interpreting facial expressions accurately.
I'm hatching a plan to come up with a test. To me, the fact his lower facial muscles are pulling in such a way is indicative to anxiety. Acting anxious and 'feeling' anxious is no easy task. It's what separates the Oscar award winners from B-movie actors. A simple test for yourself is to watch facial expressions and then mimic them. Notice the different sensations each one causes. We never pay much attention to that but it's how I like to read peoples faces.

originally posted by: FlySolo
a reply to: blupblup

It would be interesting to see how many members or how good we are at interpreting facial expressions accurately.
I'm hatching a plan to come up with a test. To me, the fact his lower facial muscles are pulling in such a way is indicative to anxiety. Acting anxious and 'feeling' anxious is no easy task. It's what separates the Oscar award winners from B-movie actors. A simple test for yourself is to watch facial expressions and then mimic them. Notice the different sensations each one causes. We never pay much attention to that but it's how I like to read peoples faces.

Well when you have the test, lemme know.... I've always been a very good at "getting" people, picking up vibes, reading people etc - but I'd be interested if you had a test.
It is very interesting how people can see/feel things so differently but this can also be applied to the arts, music, politics, religion and a million other things.

I think these guys are really, really bad at being convincing or coming across as genuine.
You said about subtleties but for me the subtleties are as I pointed out... the tree obscuring the "face" of the "squatch/man in suit" also the "and when did you realise it wasn't a bear" question....and the fact he asks for the camera when friend is filming, but sure, that could be put down to nerves and excitement/adrenaline.

originally posted by: FlySolo
It would be interesting to see how many members or how good we are at interpreting facial expressions accurately.
I'm hatching a plan to come up with a test.

A good general tell for lying for most people is that they raise their eyebrows. Unfortunately, this can also be an indication of surprise. But if they're just talking about what happened and they raise their eyebrows as they do it, then it becomes problematic.

a reply to: FlySolo


You need a few similar tests to this (I got 15 so not perfect but not bad) but obviously a smile is one thing, I think what the guys in your video are doing and the fact we have more of them, makes it easier to detect their fakery

www.bbc.co.uk...


There was a decent experiment on TV in the UK a couple of years ago where they did all kinds of tests on this subject, asked people to read a line/fact and you'd see if they were lying/telling the truth etc, can't remember the name of it but I'm googling to see if I can find it.

a reply to: blupblup

Interesting. I got 65%. After looking at my responses I could have had 75% 'cause a couple of them I second guessed myself. But how were the subjects cued to smile? A joke for some and just a command for the others? Either way neat test.

I'm thinking of something more elaborate and in 'real time'. Screen shots off of videos of people in regular situations during their decision processes. For example, the look on an investors face before he/she decides if they think a deal is good or not. The look on the face of a 'potential' home buyer, or just general ticks. Each picture would have multiple choice answers. After, in a few hours once everyone has had a chance to play along, I would then put up the corresponding videos to reveal the real results.

Game?

ETA: I second guessed 4, not 2. Damn, would have been 95%.

a reply to: blupblup

18 out of 20. Therefore, I'm correct about the actors in the video.

originally posted by: Blue Shift
Biggie foot. He looks pretty monkey-like to me. But maybe that's the way this one is.

Its someone with a mask in a black hoody.
Look at the darkness around the edge of the hoody on the inside.
It also looks like a pair of sunglasses on his head just underneath the hood.
Also, in the very first frame, looks like he has a bag, or something in his hand

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
Look at the darkness around the edge of the hoody on the inside.
It also looks like a pair of sunglasses on his head just underneath the hood.
Also, in the very first frame, looks like he has a bag, or something in his hand

The darkness around the edge of the face doesn't bother me. And the light spot on the head could be sunglasses or a brow ridge.

And that light patch in the first frame could be a reflection off shiny fur.
Or not.
Either way, if true, these guys had a great opportunity and came up with some crap video.

originally posted by: FlySolo


Game?

Yeah I'm up for that

originally posted by: redtic
a reply to: blupblup

18 out of 20. Therefore, I'm correct about the actors in the video.

Nice... and what was your view?
It's a man in a hoodie and mask, whether those guys are acting or not (hint, they're acting)

originally posted by: blupblup

originally posted by: redtic
a reply to: blupblup

18 out of 20. Therefore, I'm correct about the actors in the video.

Nice... and what was your view?
It's a man in a hoodie and mask, whether those guys are acting or not (hint, they're acting)

That was my first thought on the video upon first viewing - actors (see first page). Anything beyond that was inconsequential.

a reply to: Blue Shift

Whatever it was, it very likely was not any of those apes in your posted photos. So what help are they in identifying this "creature?" The whole thing reeks, and because of the age in which we live people have to realize that the only thing that can ever convince us that bigfoot is anything other than a myth is a captured, live specimen? Until that happens, it's all hoax to me, as it's clear that this creature either does not exist or goes to great lengths to avoid human interactions. If that's the case, the right thing to do is leave them the hell alone.