404 Memphis police officers call in sick

a reply to: neo96

This is true about it being the public's money. Maybe there is more to it than they are telling us. The article looks pretty brief. Health Care benefits are important, especially after this whole healthcare debacle. Peoples plans getting bumped around and all that craziness. All speculation, but the article didnt give me much to go on. Maybe their plans were getting cut and they were going to have to pay more and that part was conveniently left out of the article.

originally posted by: Cygnis

originally posted by: abe froman
a reply to: Cygnis They are extremely well paid for a job that requires a moderate IQ

I would partially agree with you, after 3 years of service, they are ELIGIBLE to make $53,573.52. If they gain more after that, in raises or what not, I do not know. $53k a year is not too shabby, but health-care costs will eat that in a jiffy

Welcome to America, we all have healthcare worries. Name another GED job that pays over 50 grand in three years. Also consider what other jobs most officers are qualified for, they usually start around $8 with no benefits.

You guys are being awful over-critical here.. One call out, at any job I have EVER had, from fast food, to Large corp IT, have NEVER pink-slipped for 1 call out. Usually we all accrue sick-days. A doctors note was required if out for more then 3 days sick.

My wife who works at a hospital, has the same policy as I stated above.

Same with my father's, and many of my buddies. None of us are law-enforcement..

Get off your zealous high horse, we're talking about humans here, even tho they should be held to a higher standard, as far as work performance; still human, and thus as flawed as the rest of us.

originally posted by: Cygnis
You guys are being awful over-critical here.. One call out, at any job I have EVER had, from fast food, to Large corp IT, have NEVER pink-slipped for 1 call out. Usually we all accrue sick-days. A doctors note was required if out for more then 3 days sick

Any of those jobs government work in public safety? A sick out puts not only civilian lives in jeopardy but also the lives of your brothers in arms. Where's your fraternal instinct now? The cops that didn't call off should be furious at the ones who did. Selfish, inconsiderate, thoughtless people should not be given positions of public trust. These men betrayed the trust we gave them, if there is a big emergency like a 9/11 where their lives might be put in jeopardy, can we trust them not to call off? No we cannot. You broke the trust, you shouldn't get it back. It should be considered an honor and a duty to be placed on a police force,not a paycheck because you have no skills to do anything else.

a reply to: abe froman

You have a point. They do swear an oath. That's legally binding. As much as I believe in a person's right to protest especially if they arent being treated fairly at work.....they could have handled it a little better. It could almost be considered a veiled threat.

originally posted by: abe froman

originally posted by: Cygnis
You guys are being awful over-critical here.. One call out, at any job I have EVER had, from fast food, to Large corp IT, have NEVER pink-slipped for 1 call out. Usually we all accrue sick-days. A doctors note was required if out for more then 3 days sick

Any of those jobs government work in public safety? A sick out puts not only civilian lives in jeopardy but also the lives of your brothers in arms. Where's your fraternal instinct now? The cops that didn't call off should be furious at the ones who did. Selfish, inconsiderate, thoughtless people should not be given positions of public trust. These men betrayed the trust we gave them, if there is a big emergency like a 9/11 where their lives might be put in jeopardy, can we trust them not to call off. No we cannot. You broke the trust, you shouldn't get it back.

Yes, because having someone by your side, who's head isn't in the game, is safe.. Just as safe as if they were sick, and on cold medication.

No thank you, I want my backup, and partner to be on top of their game, and alert.

So fine, unable to function and focus, stay home. I have no issues with this, assign me a new partner until my usual partner returns.

Now, your just being silly, show me someone, for their WHOLE LIFE who HAS NOT been inconsiderate, and un-trustworthy. If you do, I will show you a liar.

No one is perfect, obviously your standards are not humanly possible, thus no one should be in charge, or rule over, or have special privileges over anyone else.

Compassion brother, the cops are getting screwed over just like the people are. They just have the added stress of dealing with the low-life people more often then the rest of us.

when you have just three seconds to save your life remember the cops are only 10 days away?

I am not anti-police. I am anti breaking the public trust. Over a thousand officers did not stage a sick out. I stand with them.

a reply to: Cygnis I'm just thinking you are siding with the wrong officers. I side with the ones who have shown through their actions that they do believe in their mission of public safety and showed a devotion to duty and honor, while the minority broke the public trust. There are forums to address these issues like city council meetings and the ballot box. The sick out in my opinion was a cowardly act. and cowards are very dangerous because they will shoot you in the back.

Just get the mayor to attend a radio interview ask him about how services have been affected. I remember the time some unions on strike and the interview went something like the following:

Radio host: "Now minister, tell me how the strike has affected services?"

Minister: "Fortunately, even with 80% of staff on strike on a daily basis, I am glad to say that services haven't been affected"

Radio host: "So, with four fifths of the workforce idle, your department is still able to function as normal?"

Minister: "Yes. I can categorically assure everyone out there, that services haven't been affected by the strike."

Radio host: "Then if I may ask a question, if services haven't been affected with four out of five of the workforce on strike, what on earth do they do when they are not on strike and at work? Surely, they must make some difference?"

Minister: "Ah. I see your point."

a reply to: stormcell Nailed it.

Problem is we got too many police enforcing too many laws. It isn't about keeping people safe anymore its about writing tickets, issuing fines, collecting court costs, and pushing people through the system. I would imagine that most police actually spend more time being enforcers than protectors. This leads to all sorts of problems.

In every state I've heard of there are laws against police officers, corrections officers, and other mandatory personnel staging any sort of “walk out” or strike. Fire the lot of em, and the state would be well in its rights to do so.

a reply to: defcon5

The city would be within its rights to do so (one would think) providing it can be proved that a case (has to be investigate individually) violated sick call protocol. If that cannot be proved, no grounds. So, what's sick call protocol?

a reply to: LadySkadi
Like anywhere else, DR note. However they will all keep their jobs because due to the "thin blue line" all police depts. are inherently crooked. Cops always want civilians to testify but they hold fast to the "snitches get stitches" mentality when it comes to each other.

Forbes list Memphis, TN #4 of the top 10 most dangerous cities to live in. 500+ police not showing up for work doesn't sound like a lot but it is when you consider the extremely high crime rate! It could be devastating!

Can't blame them for taking care of their business the only way the probably can without getting fired.

There are some people who can take care of themselves and their own families and keep them safe.

There are some people who can't take care of themselves and their own families and keep them safe.

If our police force here decided not to go to work it would not hamper me in the least. My family has been raised and trained to be self reliant and take care of themselves and not rely on others to protect them or serve them.

About 95% of the time the police only clean up after the crime anyways.

a reply to: mwood
...when they're not the ones causing it.

Probably not the first one to say this pun but:

404 -- Officers Not Found.

Lol. Couldn't help it...

Heck, it's Memphis! Double the price of admission to Elvis' place, and put a tax on rib joints! Problem solved.